[EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread Mark Hanson via EV
Thanks Christine I had two friends that crashed their Tesla 3s while using Auto Pilot or self driving on curvy roads that dropped out (one into a tree and the other into a building.) Luckily they survived but since the one computer dropped out, there was no accident recording. You can’t have

Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On 4/9/2024 7:46 AM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: So, I've never driven a tesla, or any car with some level of self driving. What I'm wondering is, if you keep your hands on the wheel and an eye on the road, are you driving or is FSD driving ? Alternatively, if you lapse your attention, even

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rumor: Tesla abandons $25k EV?

2024-04-09 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On 4/9/2024 8:40 AM, Lawrence Rhodes via EV wrote: Henry Ford made an affordable vehicle that was reduced in price over time, as production grew. Lawrence Rhodes Anyone found a graph that shows the price of a Tesla 3 or Y over time - adjusted for inflation? Has it gone up or down?

Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread (-Phil-) via EV
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Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rumor: Tesla abandons $25k EV?

2024-04-09 Thread Lawrence Rhodes via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread Peri Hartman via EV
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Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread Ron via EV
eel so it thought they were paying attention. >> (yeah, Tesla's are now using the cabin camera to try and prevent crap >> like that.) >> C) More of them have been tracked to the person NOT using FSD - but >> claiming they were. This is usually easily discredited.

Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On 4/9/2024 12:00 PM, Peri Hartman via EV wrote: John, I agree with all your points. However, I don't think they really answer my question. Let me try to rephrase. If you are driving with FSD and paying full attention, what is FSD doing for you ? If your attention lapses and FSD keeps you

Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread EV List Lackey via EV
It's curious. Tesla has won previous cases by convincing juries that they'd provided enough disclaimers. They almost took this one to trial too, but agreed to settle at the last minute. What changed their minds? Is there something in this case about the cars that they didn't want made

Re: [EVDL] Tesla settles with family

2024-04-09 Thread John Lussmyer via EV
On 4/9/2024 4:18 PM, EV List Lackey via EV wrote: response to "Tesla" among the non-EV-fans I talk to is usually either "battery fires" or "autopilot accidents." Battery Fires I place the blame squarely on the Media. Gas cars burn FREQUENTLY, and those often don't even make the local news

Re: [EVDL] EVLN: Rumor: Tesla abandons $25k EV?

2024-04-09 Thread Kevin Horton via EV
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