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On 11/14/2013 6:28 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
From:
On 14 Nov 2013, at 14:54, Roger Clough wrote:
Hi - Roger Clough
All current theories of mind are objective (materialist) since they
do not include the first person singular.
This seems to be a nonsense to me. Mind, by definition bears on first
person singular. Plotinus already saw the
On 14 Nov 2013, at 18:48, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/14/2013 3:34 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
The use of science by government of science is of the type of
pseudo-religion abuse.
?? Does not parse.
Sorry. Read instead: The use of science by governments is of the type
of pseudo-religion abuse.
There is a model of the earth nucleus. It is very good. Why? Because it
behaves like the real nucleus. It invert polarity every 14000 years I
believe, dont want to fire up the wikipedia to get the real digits. That is
why it is a good model.
Just like climate models parameter values have
So the measurements showing rising global temperatures and the noticeable
effects this is having, and the measured rise in CO2 since the industrial
revolution are irrelevant because the models aren't yet 100% accurate?
So let's sit on our hands and do nothing, just in case we make a better
world
2013/11/15 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
So the measurements showing rising global temperatures and the noticeable
effects this is having, and the measured rise in CO2 since the industrial
revolution are irrelevant because the models aren't yet 100% accurate?
The models are 0% accurate.
The other
Thanks for the good work Jason.
Hmm... I do have a critics, which is minor or major: I don't see any
difference between the beam and the attenuated beam on my screen.
In fact I would avoid color, or I would still use any trick so that
even on a bad black and white screen we can clearly see
Great work Jason!
Regarding color blindness, there are some palettes to deal with this.
I have a color blind colleague, and they seem to work well with him.
For example:
http://www.mollietaylor.com/2012/10/color-blindness-and-palette-choice.html
I also use the color blind friendly palette when
The self as lens: Leibniz's lens-like model of perception and reality.
Although I cannot find a direct reference in Leibniz's writings, they
have not all been translated. Nevertheless Leibniz's model
of perception is seemingly based on the high technology of the 17th century,
Huygen's
Hi Russell,
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 12:58 AM, Russell Standish
li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:09:18PM +0100, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 11:32 PM, Russell Standish
li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
The good news is that the figures I've seen is that its
To perform a fix on the climate, and I am giving the IPCC supporters the
benefit of the doubt, we must have abundant clean sources at the ready. We need
terawatts of clean, because gigawatts are insufficient. Some can be replaced by
higher efficiency homes and devices, and cars-but this will
Please understand, that unless your geothermal is really good, people will
successfully complain about earthquakes caused by geothermal energy, bath in
Basel, and Bavaria, if I remember right? Plus, the replacement tech that are
proposed, must provide terawatts of energy, to replace the dirty.
For CO2 remediation, Klaus Lachner has designed his artificial tree. Its a
pollution exchanger, designed by Lachner at Columbia university NYC. Its
supposed to be 100 times more efficient at removing atmospheric co2, then a
normal, deciduous, tree. Cost? Who knows?
-Original
The fantastic amount of subsidies to the solar energy (That not even
Germany will have enough budget to pay them) not only have destroyed the
familiar and industrial economy with such incredible amount of taxes. They
also *have stopped further solar cell research* in the countries where
these
I mean, the subsidies are for solar energy production.
2013/11/15 Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
The fantastic amount of subsidies to the solar energy (That not even
Germany will have enough budget to pay them) not only have destroyed the
familiar and industrial economy with such
On 15 Nov 2013, at 13:38, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Great work Jason!
Regarding color blindness, there are some palettes to deal with this.
I have a color blind colleague, and they seem to work well with him.
For example:
http://www.mollietaylor.com/2012/10/color-blindness-and-palette-choice.html
Where's the math?
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net wrote:
The self as lens: Leibniz's lens-like model of perception and reality.
Although I cannot find a direct reference in Leibniz's writings, they
have not all been translated. Nevertheless Leibniz's model
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Nov 2013, at 13:38, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Great work Jason!
Regarding color blindness, there are some palettes to deal with this.
I have a color blind colleague, and they seem to work well with him.
For example:
On 15 Nov 2013, at 16:30, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Where's the math?
Good question.
I comment Roger below:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Roger Clough rclo...@verizon.net
wrote:
The self as lens: Leibniz's lens-like model of perception and reality.
Although I cannot find a direct
On 15 Nov 2013, at 16:49, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 4:27 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 15 Nov 2013, at 13:38, Telmo Menezes wrote:
Great work Jason!
Regarding color blindness, there are some palettes to deal with
this.
I have a color blind colleague,
On 11/15/2013 12:15 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
So the energy would be stored in the potential energy of the heavy piston and the water
would just be a working medium? Why not put the weight on a cable and use a purely
mechanical system? I'd think that could be more efficient that a water
On 11/15/2013 2:11 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
There is a model of the earth nucleus. It is very good. Why? Because
it behaves
like the real nucleus. It invert polarity every 14000 years I believe,
dont want
to fire up the wikipedia to get the real digits. That is
I rephrase my affirmation as a question, so that even a kid can understand
it:
The models of the earth nucleus predict an inversion of polatity every
14000 years, just what happens in the real Eart nucleus.
What fact of the earth climate the climate models are capable to predict?
2013/11/15
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
And for nukes? I would say: O N L Y fusion!
The 'old fashion' fission nuke may be even more danerous than fossil
pollution.
Lets look at the disasters associated with various energy producing
projects:
In 1975 the
On 11/14/2013 11:00 PM, Jason Resch wrote:
Telmo, Bruno,
I've incorporated your suggestions into an updated document. Thank you.
To all: feel free to use these however you find appropriate.
Jason
If I use it (and I probably will - with attribution) I would replace the TV phosphor
screens
On 11/15/2013 5:29 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
The fantastic amount of subsidies to the solar energy (That not even Germany will have
enough budget to pay them) not only have destroyed the familiar and industrial economy
with such incredible amount of taxes.
Germany's Industrial Economy
Germany was forced to reduce the subsidies retroactively, that means
breaking the contracts with already installed power plants. Like spain and
other countries. Even, so the taxes over electricity consumption would
provoke a revolution in USA.
2013/11/15 meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net
On
Solar irradiance on the Earth is approximately 1.74×1017 Watts.
On 16 November 2013 02:13, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
To perform a fix on the climate, and I am giving the IPCC supporters the
benefit of the doubt, we must have abundant clean sources at the ready. We
need terawatts of clean,
On 16 November 2013 07:18, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
There's nothing apocalyptic about global warming. Human will survive as a
species. At least so long as it doesn't trigger a nuclear war. But there
will be a lot death and suffering.
I agree. The question is whether our
On 16 November 2013 07:34, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I rephrase my affirmation as a question, so that even a kid can understand
it:
The models of the earth nucleus predict an inversion of polatity every
14000 years, just what happens in the real Eart nucleus.
What fact
On 16 November 2013 08:20, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/15/2013 5:29 AM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
The fantastic amount of subsidies to the solar energy (That not even
Germany will have enough budget to pay them) not only have destroyed the
familiar and industrial economy with
On 16 November 2013 07:01, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
The main problem is just size. I considered designing an energy storage
system to be used with home, rooftop PVs. I looked around for something
heavy that could be lifted up to store energy. My car. It weighs about
2600lb.
LizR
3:23 PM (29 minutes ago)
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On 16 November 2013 07:34, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
I rephrase my affirmation as a question, so that even a kid can understand
it:
The models of the earth nucleus predict an inversion of polatity every
14000 years, just
AHA, I can see from your avatar why you're so keen on Leibniz - you're
almost his double!
:)
On 16 November 2013 04:57, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 15 Nov 2013, at 16:30, Richard Ruquist wrote:
Where's the math?
Good question.
I comment Roger below:
On Fri, Nov 15,
On 11/15/2013 11:06 AM, John Clark wrote:
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:19 PM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com
mailto:jami...@gmail.com wrote:
And for nukes? I would say: O N L Y fusion!
The 'old fashion' fission nuke may be even more danerous than fossil
pollution.
Lets look at
On Wed, Nov 13, 2013 at 4:09 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
in the past, when the earth was much warmer, sea level was several meters
higher.
The sea was hundreds of meters higher in the past and will be so again
someday, but at a rate of one inch a decade we'll have plenty of time
On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 01:01:44PM -0800, meekerdb wrote:
On 11/15/2013 11:06 AM, John Clark wrote:
Lets look at the disasters associated with various energy producing projects:
In 1975 the Shimantan/Banqiao hydroelectric Dam in China failed and killed
171,000 people.
In 1979 the Three
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On 16 November 2013 09:54, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz, Global temperatures fell from 1950 to 1980 while CO2 atm content was
rising. Can you explain that? Richard
Why should I? This is a complex system with an uncontrolled experiment
running in it.
The resources are always the FIRST thing I think about, which is why I
advocate subcritical reactors (well, it's one reason).
Luckily we have a lot of thorium, or so I'm reliably informed, which is
what subcritical reactors use.
On 16 November 2013 10:19, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au
On 16 November 2013 10:07, John Clark johnkcl...@gmail.com wrote:
Straw man my ass, environmentalists never met a energy source they didn't
hate. Wind farms are ugly, disrupt wind patterns are noisy and kill
birdies. Geothermal smells bad and causes earthquakes. Hydroelectric floods
the land
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:18:17AM +1300, LizR wrote:
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On 16 November 2013 09:54, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
Liz, Global temperatures fell from 1950 to 1980 while CO2 atm content was
rising. Can you explain that? Richard
PS on the subject of
On 16 November 2013 10:48, Russell Standish li...@hpcoders.com.au wrote:
This is due to the presence of aerosols. Ironically, cleaning up our
pollution has caused the planet to warm faster.
Yes I thought it would be something like that. I recently heard there had
been a (slight) drop in
On 16 November 2013 10:44, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
That is not a predicion that test the validity of a model. I can do the
same with a program with then lines by adjusting three parameters.
A real model would reproduce the evolution of ancient climates
transitions, for
My own models and the one of star trekkers, Star warriors and in general
Sci-Fi aficionados indicates that the most probable catastrophe is an
alien invasion in the next 100 years.
We have only one planet to live. So I will consider you a bunch of retarded
deniers and brainless morons if you do
On 16 November 2013 11:13, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
My own models and the one of star trekkers, Star warriors and in general
Sci-Fi aficionados indicates that the most probable catastrophe is an
alien invasion in the next 100 years.
We have only one planet to live. So I
As i said before, it si worthless to talk with sectarian apocalipticists.
Your ideological ancestors were the worst people of the modern times. It
is no surprise that you lack the tiniest sense of humor. You are a true
danger.
2013/11/15 LizR lizj...@gmail.com
On 16 November 2013 11:13,
On 11/15/2013 2:38 PM, Alberto G. Corona wrote:
As i said before, it si worthless to talk with sectarian apocalipticists. Your
ideological ancestors were the worst people of the modern times. It is no surprise that
you lack the tiniest sense of humor. You are a true danger.
Alberto is
You have shown what you are and what you represent. I have nothing more to
say. You are your worst enemy.
I suspect that we have touched not only the beliefs, but the business of
some people here that live from big gobernment politics and ecoalarmist
demagogy.
2013/11/15 meekerdb
On 16 November 2013 11:38, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
As i said before, it si worthless to talk with sectarian apocalipticists.
Your ideological ancestors were the worst people of the modern times. It
is no surprise that you lack the tiniest sense of humor. You are a true
On 16 November 2013 11:57, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
You have shown what you are and what you represent. I have nothing more to
say. You are your worst enemy.
I suspect that we have touched not only the beliefs, but the business of
some people here that live from big
On 11/15/2013 3:16 PM, LizR wrote:
On 16 November 2013 11:57, Alberto G. Corona agocor...@gmail.com
mailto:agocor...@gmail.com wrote:
You have shown what you are and what you represent. I have nothing more to
say. You
are your worst enemy.
I suspect that we have touched not only
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On 16 November 2013 12:35, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 11/15/2013 3:16 PM, LizR wrote:
So far, my climate denier models are spot on.
How many times does you model predict Alberto will post that he's not
going to say anymore? Just curious.
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On 11/15/2013 4:11 PM, spudboy...@aol.com wrote:
What about thorium schemes Dr. Standish? Also, are things such as hydroelectric
reservoirs built on the ocean, and lifting sea water as pumped storage workable, or is
it an energy sink, where we expend more energy then we produce to accomplish
Show me these models that are 0% accurate – that is very hard to achieve,
except in the land of polemics, which is where I suspect you reside.
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To perform a fix on the climate, and I am giving the IPCC
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Please understand, that unless your geothermal is really
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The fantastic amount of subsidies to the solar energy (That not even
Germany
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I mean, the subsidies are for solar energy production.
References
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On 11/15/2013 12:15 AM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
So the energy would
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The resources are always the FIRST thing I think about, which is why I
advocate
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On 11/15/2013 1:19 PM, Russell Standish wrote:
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Neils Bohr is famously quoted as saying: 'Everything we call real is made
of things that cannot be regarded asreal. If quantum mechanics hasn't
profoundly shocked you, you haven't understood it yet.”
What's your take on this?
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On 11/15/2013 6:48 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
LFTR reactors would produce U233 -- which is very nasty stuff.
But they breed only what they consume, none of it is 'waste'.
Still preferable to the fast neutron U-238 breeder types that would create the plutonium
economy, but it is very
I suspect this is one of those fake quotes that gets circulated around the
internet; searching for everything we call real and bohr on
books.google.com I mostly just find it in various religious/spiritual
books, nothing scholarly (and nothing dating back to before 1986).
Jesse
On Fri, Nov 15,
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is
everything real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything
is actually unreal, a holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real?
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On 11/15/2013 6:48 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
LFTR reactors would produce U233
I see no reason to believe the quantum world is unreal, though I suppose
it might depend on one's interpretation of quantum mechanics (but most
non-Copenhagen interpretations, like the many-worlds interpretation and
Bohmian mechanics, treat the state of quantum systems as completely
objective).
On 11/15/2013 8:22 PM, Samiya Illias wrote:
Never mind who said it. Considering what we know of quantum mechanics, is everything
real made of everything unreal? Does that mean that everything is actually unreal, a
holograph, a reflection of our mind, if that is real?
I don't even know what
On 11/15/2013 8:36 PM, Chris de Morsella wrote:
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On 11/15/2013 6:48 PM, Chris
(Brent wrote)
Neils Bohr had a horseshoe nailed over the door to his office.
When a graduate student asked him if he believed the supersition
that this would bring good luck, Bohr said, I'm told it works
whether you believe in it or not.
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Once, at the afternoon tea, in the Institute
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