Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Thu, Apr 16, 2020 at 3:51 PM Alan Grayson wrote: > *>It surely does have a basis in experience. We've never seen any process > that can occur in zero time duration! AG * > Therefore one should be extremely cautious about confidently asserting what can and can not happen during zero time dura

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 1:32:23 PM UTC-6, Brent wrote: > > > > On 4/16/2020 6:07 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: > > But what seems impossible is for our universe to begin at some > > instant, and being infinite in spatial extent at that instant-- which > > is what Clark asserts. AG > > Why do

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On 4/16/2020 6:07 AM, Alan Grayson wrote: But what seems impossible is for our universe to begin at some instant, and being infinite in spatial extent at that instant-- which is what Clark asserts. AG Why does that seem more impossible than beginning at a finite size from nothing at some

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 9:57:44 AM UTC-6, Lawrence >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Crowell

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Thursday, April 16, 2020 at 6:09:06 AM UTC-6, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le jeu. 16 avr. 2020 à 03:43, Alan Grayson > a écrit : > >> >> >> On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 7:25:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:27 PM Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> >>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

Le jeu. 16 avr. 2020 à 03:43, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 7:25:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:27 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *> If you solve Schroedinger's equation for the wf, you get a solution >>> for all space and time.

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

;>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 9:57:44 AM UTC-6, Lawrence >>>>>>>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

>>>>>>>>>> Crowell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-5, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>> Grayson wrote: >

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 7:25:50 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:27 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> If you solve Schroedinger's equation for the wf, you get a solution for >> all space and time. If it's physical, or shall we say ontological, how can >> it p

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Wednesday, April 15, 2020 at 8:25:50 AM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:27 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> If you solve Schroedinger's equation for the wf, you get a solution for >> all space and time. If it's physical, or shall we say ontological, how can >> it pro

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 4:27 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> If you solve Schroedinger's equation for the wf, you get a solution for > all space and time. If it's physical, or shall we say ontological, how can > it propagate infinitely? * If it started out infinite the universe wouldn't have to propa

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 8:21:37 AM UTC-6, Quentin Anciaux wrote: > > > > Le mar. 14 avr. 2020 à 16:20, Quentin Anciaux > a écrit : > >> >> >> Le mar. 14 avr. 2020 à 16:14, Alan Grayson > > a écrit : >> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:54:19 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

Le mar. 14 avr. 2020 à 16:20, Quentin Anciaux a écrit : > > > Le mar. 14 avr. 2020 à 16:14, Alan Grayson a > écrit : > >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:54:19 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 5:28:07 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Mon,

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

Le mar. 14 avr. 2020 à 16:14, Alan Grayson a écrit : > > > On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:54:19 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 5:28:07 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 5:11 PM Alan Grayson >>> wrote: >>> >>> *>>> if you accept

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 7:54:19 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 5:28:07 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: >> >> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 5:11 PM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> *>>> if you accept the measured age, it can't be finite or infinite in > spatial exte

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Tuesday, April 14, 2020 at 5:28:07 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 5:11 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *>>> if you accept the measured age, it can't be finite or infinite in spatial extent when it began* >>> >>> >>> >> If something isn't finite or infinite what is

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 5:11 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *>>> if you accept the measured age, it can't be finite or infinite in >>> spatial extent when it began* >> >> >> >> If something isn't finite or infinite what is the third alternative? >> > > > *It doesn't exist;* > OK, but then what is "it"?

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 2:50:46 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:07 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> if you accept the measured age, it can't be finite or infinite in >> spatial extent when it began* > > > If something isn't finite or infinite what is the thir

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 1:50:46 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:07 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> if you accept the measured age, it can't be finite or infinite in >> spatial extent when it began* > > > If something isn't finite or infinite what is the third

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 2:07 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> if you accept the measured age, it can't be finite or infinite in > spatial extent when it began* If something isn't finite or infinite what is the third alternative? John K Clark > -- You received this message because you are subscri

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 9:57:44 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:09 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > My assumption is that it takes finite time to create anything, finite >> or infinite. > > > If your assumption is correct then knowing that the universe is 13.8 > b

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 10:09 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > My assumption is that it takes finite time to create anything, finite or > infinite. If your assumption is correct then knowing that the universe is 13.8 billion years old is no help at all in determining if it is spatially finite or infini

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 7:21:29 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:52 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> if it had already been spatially infinite, how long had that situation >> been the case? AG* > > > Another answer to your question is it would be exactly the same a

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:52 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> if it had already been spatially infinite, how long had that situation > been the case? AG* Another answer to your question is it would be exactly the same amount of time if it had been the case that the universe had *already* been finite.

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 8:52 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >*If it had already been spatially infinite, how long had that situation > been the case? * > There is uncertainty, perhaps for 5.39*10^-44 seconds or perhaps less. Nobody knows for sure if time is quantized because we don't have a quantum the

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

a very dense infinitely > long rod spinning at close to the speed of light (you get a closed timelike > curve, aka a time machine) but when you try to do the same thing for a rod > of only finite length the mathematics gets so complicated nobody can figure > out what the hell would ha

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, April 13, 2020 at 6:30:47 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:37 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > > *You're imagining a "start" of our universe with it being infinite in >> spatial extent.* > > > It's a possibility. > > > *So, in zero time duration, at its "creatio

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 4:37 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > *You're imagining a "start" of our universe with it being infinite in > spatial extent.* It's a possibility. > *So, in zero time duration, at its "creation", it expanded infinitely * No, I'm saying at zero time the universe may have alre

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 4:19:26 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:49 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *>>> As the universe expands, galaxies move progressively faster away from us as described by Hubble's constant, which is a geometric effect as previously ex

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

>>>>>>>>>> Crowell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-5, Alan >>>>>>>>>>>>> Grayson wrote: >

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

UTC-6, Lawrence >>>>>>>>>>> Crowell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>&g

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On 4/12/2020 2:48 PM, Alan Grayson wrote: On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:44:56 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 4:33 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: /> As the universe expands, galaxies move progressively faster away from us as described by Hubble's constant,

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 5:49 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *>>> As the universe expands, galaxies move progressively faster away from >>> us as described by Hubble's constant, which is a geometric effect as >>> previously explained, and eventually wink out. Conversely, if we play the >>> movie backward

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Sunday, April 12, 2020 at 2:44:56 PM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 4:33 PM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> As the universe expands, galaxies move progressively faster away from >> us as described by Hubble's constant, which is a geometric effect as >> previously explaine

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Sun, Apr 12, 2020 at 4:33 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> As the universe expands, galaxies move progressively faster away from us > as described by Hubble's constant, which is a geometric effect as > previously explained, and eventually wink out. Conversely, if we play the > movie backward in time,

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

has a finite >> age and expanding at less than an infinite rate throughout its lifetime >> (although the rate can be changing in different epochs and possibly faster >> than light speed in some epochs such as inflation), it cannot be infinite >> in spatial extent. I've mad

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

ugh the rate can be changing in different epochs and possibly faster > than light speed in some epochs such as inflation), it cannot be infinite > in spatial extent. I've made this argument several times, which is clear > and straightforward, but never got anyone to agree. I find

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

UTC-6, Lawrence >>>>>>>>>>> Crowell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

t;>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:58:45 AM UTC-6, La

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

t; On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 10:24:30 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wedn

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

t;>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:58:45 AM UTC-6, Lawrence >>>>>>>>>> Crowell wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 1:28:21 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

t;>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:58:45 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

2:58:45 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 1:28:21 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

2:58:45 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 1:28:21 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

n Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 2:58:45 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, March 25, 2020 at 1:28:21 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

esday, March 25, 2020 at 1:28:21 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

;> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:19:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

0 at 1:28:21 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

March 24, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:19:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 202

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

M UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Inflation was initiate 10^{-35}sec after the quantum f

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:19:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

uesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:19:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Inflation was initiate 10^{-35}sec after the quantum fl

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>> >>>> Inflation was initiate 10^{-35}sec after the quantum fluctuation >>>> appearance of the observable cosmos, and this had a duration of >>>> 10^{-30}sec. The cosmologic

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:21:50 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:19:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >> >> >> >> On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>> >>> Infl

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Tuesday, March 24, 2020 at 6:19:41 PM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> Inflation was initiate 10^{-35}sec after the quantum fluctuation >> appearance of the observable cosmos, and this

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 9:35:48 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: > > Inflation was initiate 10^{-35}sec after the quantum fluctuation > appearance of the observable cosmos, and this had a duration of > 10^{-30}sec. The cosmological constant averaged around Λ = 10^{48}m^{

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 10:54 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > *> Krauss, for example, says the universe was "a billionth of a billionth > the size of a proton" before inflation began.* Krauss was talking about the size of the observable universe, the size of the un-observa

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

Inflation was initiate 10^{-35}sec after the quantum fluctuation appearance of the observable cosmos, and this had a duration of 10^{-30}sec. The cosmological constant averaged around Λ = 10^{48}m^{-2}. If I divide by the speed of light squared this comes to 10^{32}s^{-2} and we get √(Λ)T = 10

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Monday, March 23, 2020 at 8:16:15 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:55 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > > *> According to some cosmologists, Krauss?, the duration of inflation is >> about 10^-35 seconds, which is presumably the duration necessar

Re: Inflation and the total size of the universe

On Mon, Mar 23, 2020 at 12:55 AM Alan Grayson wrote: *> According to some cosmologists, Krauss?, the duration of inflation is > about 10^-35 seconds, which is presumably the duration necessary to create > isotropy and homogeneity in a universe of age 13.8 BY. If these assumptions >

Inflation and the total size of the universe

According to some cosmologists, Krauss?, the duration of inflation is about 10^-35 seconds, which is presumably the duration necessary to create isotropy and homogeneity in a universe of age 13.8 BY. If these assumptions are correct, can we use them to compute the fraction of the universe which

Re: A interview with Alan Guth, the man who invented inflation

That videio was fine for a lay audience. Why he did not mention the inflation scalar(s) fields or the ~55 e folding times is unknown. Ronald On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 7:51:29 AM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: > > > Alan H. Guth - How Significant is an Expanding Universe?

Re: A interview with Alan Guth, the man who invented inflation

On Wednesday, March 11, 2020 at 5:51:29 AM UTC-6, John Clark wrote: > > > Alan H. Guth - How Significant is an Expanding Universe? > > > John K Clark > He claims gravity was initially repulsive and later changed sign. Is this the standard current t

A interview with Alan Guth, the man who invented inflation

Alan H. Guth - How Significant is an Expanding Universe? John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an ema

Re: The sum over spacetimes: gravity and inflation

-standing issues in quantum gravity, such as the > wavefunction of the universe, the black hole information paradox, vacuum > decay rates and the measure problem of eternal inflation. > > > > @philipthrift > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google

The sum over spacetimes: gravity and inflation

iclassical state. Our results provide a novel and radically conservative approach to several long-standing issues in quantum gravity, such as the wavefunction of the universe, the black hole information paradox, vacuum decay rates and the measure problem of eternal inflation. @philipthrift -- Yo

Re: Inflation

9 at 11:41:25 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>> >>>> On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> They came to equilibrium, and what thermal f

Re: Inflation

ober 5, 2019 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> They came to equilibrium, and what thermal fluctuations that deviated >>>> away from equilibrium were "ironed out" by inflation. >>>>

Re: Inflation

quilibrium, why would a sudden >> expansion attenuate them? * > > > As I explained in my previous post, Inflation Theory says a very very very > small part of the pre-inflationary universe would have had time to reach > thermal equilibrium, and that small part then underwent

Re: Inflation

gt;>> They came to equilibrium, and what thermal fluctuations that deviated >>> away from equilibrium were "ironed out" by inflation. >>> >> >> It's the "ironed out" that I don't understand. If there were some >> fluctuations, small

Re: Inflation

quilibrium, why would a sudden >> expansion attenuate them? * > > > As I explained in my previous post, Inflation Theory says a very very very > small part of the pre-inflationary universe would have had time to reach > thermal equilibrium, and that small part then underwent expone

Re: Inflation

On Sat, Oct 5, 2019 at 12:41 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> It's the "ironed out" that I don't understand. If there were some > fluctuations, small deviations from thermal equilibrium, why would a sudden > expansion attenuate them? * As I explained in my previous post,

Re: Inflation

On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 11:41:25 AM UTC-5, Alan Grayson wrote: > > > > On Saturday, October 5, 2019 at 7:57:59 AM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >> >> >> >> They came to equilibrium, and what thermal fluctuations that deviated >> away from

Re: Inflation

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 7:05:12 PM UTC-6, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>>> wrote: >

Re: Inflation

>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>

Re: Inflation

gt;>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>>

Re: Inflation

Lawrence Crowell >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wro

Re: Inflation

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 7:54 PM Alan Grayson wrote: *> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just > before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEAK. Thus, it's > illogical to claim that inflation "smooths out" the alleged NON t

Re: Inflation

rowell >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>>> wrote: >>>&

Re: Inflation

>> >>>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium >>>&g

Re: Inflation

, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>

Re: Inflation

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 8:01:49 PM UTC-5, Lawrence Crowell wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson >>>>> wrote: >>>>&g

Re: Inflation

October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium >>>>> j

Re: Inflation

2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just >>>> before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEAK. Thus, it's >>>> illogical to claim that inflation "smoo

Re: Inflation

NOT in thermo equilibrium just >>> before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEAK. Thus, it's >>> illogical to claim that inflation "smooths out" the alleged NON thermo >>> equiiibrium just before inflation begun. AG >>> >> >&

Re: Inflation

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 6:59:35 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just >> before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEA

Re: Inflation

.@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>>

Re: Inflation

On Thursday, October 3, 2019 at 5:59:35 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just >> before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEA

Re: Inflation

On Fri, Oct 4, 2019 at 9:54 AM Alan Grayson wrote: > > ISTM, that the argument the universe was NOT in thermo equilibrium just > before inflation is alleged to have begun, is extremely WEAK. Thus, it's > illogical to claim that inflation "smooths out" the alleged NO

Re: Inflation

.@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>>>>>

Re: Inflation

, Bruce wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 9:21 AM Lawrence Crowell < >>>>>> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>

Re: Inflation

.@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>&

Re: Inflation

gt;>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In this case I was just responding to Bruce's certainty that >>>&

Re: Inflation

On Tuesday, October 1, 2019 at 5:59:42 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 8:40 AM Alan Grayson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Sunday, September 29, 2019 at 8:53:35 AM UTC-6, Alan Grayson wrote: >>>>>> &g

Re: Inflation

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 4:46:50 PM UTC-6, Bruce wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> In this case I was just responding to Bruce's certainty that inflation is >> mostly a red herring. I highly respect his opinions

Re: Inflation

lt; >>> goldenfield...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>

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r 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >>>> >>>> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> In this case I was just responding to Bruce's certainty that inflation >>>>>

Re: Inflation

gt;>> >>>> >>>> In this case I was just responding to Bruce's certainty that inflation >>>> is mostly a red herring. I highly respect his opinions, but in this case, >>>> based on my study of this particular issue, I disagree. I am open t

Re: Inflation

On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 9:21 AM Lawrence Crowell < goldenfieldquaterni...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: >> >> On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson wrote: >> >>> >>> In this case I was just r

Re: Inflation

On Wednesday, October 2, 2019 at 5:46:50 PM UTC-5, Bruce wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 3, 2019 at 3:03 AM Alan Grayson > wrote: > >> >> In this case I was just responding to Bruce's certainty that inflation is >> mostly a red herring. I highly respect his opinions

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