Liz - again my whining about semantix: what would you call
(to) - - - k n o w - - - ???
A fetus 'knows' to circualte blood, carry out growing processes, (I am not
so sure about instincts) - what I referred to (and as I underwtand Samiya
used a similar understanding) was MENTAL activity as
Thank you, Samiya. I was afraid you wrote me off.
John
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wrote:
Dear John,
In our last exchange, you had mentioned that a fetus does not know
anything, and I had wondered whether it was so. Just now I came across this
verse
Of course not, John. I am just as much a student as any of you, earnestly
seeking to understand and evolve. Please keep discussing.
Something I realized upon Liz' response was that the word translated as heart
by Pickthall, has variously been translated as intelligence, feelings, and also
mind
A foetus knows various things, called instincts.
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Dear John,
In our last exchange, you had mentioned that a fetus does not know anything,
and I had wondered whether it was so. Just now I came across this verse (Quran
16:79)
English-Pickthall translation
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And Allah brought you forth from the wombs of your mothers
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 11:14 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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Religion does not stand on the same footing as science. Religion
overarches and encompasses
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On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 12:46 AM, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Dear Samiya: I don't argue with you (like PGC) I ask a question going
back further than this entire discussion:
you wrote:
*I could say that
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This invitation to parse the text for some written truth with a capital T
does not rise to the same level
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This invitation to parse the text for some
You make statements where the difference between science and theology is a
matter of degree:
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 7:32 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List
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You are being a purist.
We all begin with the assumption that an external reality
On 7/2/2014 9:46 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy wrote:
Brent has said things sounding like doesn't matter, whatever works who cares how and
why, to which my reply is: then we should completely ban all ethical/theological
consideration from scientific inquiry.
If you think I said science should
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You make statements where the difference between science and theology is a
matter
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You make statements where the difference between science and theology is a
matter of degree:
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You are being a purist.
We all begin
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Samiya
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 AM,
What is your definition of factual accuracy? Kindly explain with some examples.
Samiya
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote
On Tue, Jul 1, 2014 at 5:02 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
wrote:
What is your definition of factual accuracy? Kindly explain with some
examples.
You posted on this list bringing up factual accuracy regarding the Quran,
if I remember correctly. This is why I posed the question in a
Now I see why I am unable to answer you. Thanks for explaining!
So, in principle, you are against any claims of factual accuracy from any
person or religion, and therefore prejudiced against all scriptures? Given
that I am convinced about the Quran being the truth from God, and you
convinced that
On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
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Now I see why I am unable to answer you. Thanks for explaining!
So, in principle, you are against any claims of factual accuracy from any
person or religion, and therefore prejudiced against all scriptures?
That
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Now I see why I am unable to answer you. Thanks for explaining!
So, in principle, you are against any claims of factual accuracy from any
person or religion, and therefore
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Now I see why I am unable to answer you. Thanks for
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On Wed, Jul 2, 2014 at 3:34 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
Now I see why I am unable to answer you. Thanks for explaining!
So, in principle, you are against any claims of factual
Just a thought. If I was god, and I was in communication with the puny
beings I had created, given free will, threatened with eternal damnation
but then said they had a chance at salvation as long as they lick my
metaphorical boots with regular prayers and so on, which I think is a
perfectly
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Samiya Illias
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On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
I respect a possible god's
Dear Samiya: I don't argue with you (like PGC) I ask a question going back
further than this entire discussion:
you wrote:
*I could say that as I studied and observed the beauty and the patterns in
nature, the finest details, I became convinced that there had to be a
Creator behind it, but that
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
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I respect a possible god's creation more than thinking it somebody's job
to convert people. This makes god's
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Dr. Marchal, you should ask about the Ahmadi sect of Islam who are hated
by most of the Sunni and Shia
Didn't they divorce in 1975?
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Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book
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On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 9:34
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
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multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
Another example: does the Quran allow for possibility that it could be
wrong etc? PGC
No, it doesn't, as explained
On Sun, Jun 29, 2014 at 1:31 AM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
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Another example: does
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On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 7:40 PM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sat, Jun 28, 2014 at 6:20 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 12:50 PM, Platonist Guitar Cowboy
multiplecit...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 9:34 AM, Samiya Illias samiyaill...@gmail.com
wrote:
Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book about God by humans, or a
book from God about humans.
Why? It makes a
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wrote:
Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book about God by humans, or a
book from God about humans.
Let’s discuss the factual accuracy part first.
On 27 June 2014 12:24, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
I can call forth spirits from the vasty deep!
Why, so can I, and so can any man; but do they come when you do call them?
(Shakespeare, I'm not sure which play offhand, or who said it ... or if I
quoted it accurately ... but I'm sure you
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Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is a book
On Fri, Jun 27, 2014 at 1:45 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/27/2014 4:24 AM, LizR wrote:
On 27 June 2014 23:07, Richard Ruquist yann...@gmail.com wrote:
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Okay, let’s leave aside whether this is
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Dear John,
it is wasted time and effort to argue who is right in a
question that raises 2 billion children in a 'faith
On 25 Jun 2014, at 06:46, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/24/2014 12:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Google does not seem to know of its existence.
The net does not know everything, and contains a lot of propaganda
of many kinds.
Bruno
Have you read Scott Aaronson's latest blog in which he
ever will.
Brent
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On 6/25/2014 12:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What is a crime is often defined by religion
That makes sense in primitive society, but religion might have
nothing to say on the terrestrial plane. You confuse religion, and
the
On 25 Jun 2014, at 03:57, meekerdb wrote:
On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is
in the exploitation of that problem by bandits to hide their
lucrative criminal activities.
This is naive. Bandits do lucrative criminal
used to come across them
with monotonous regularity - the Organians and all that.
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On 25 June 2014 03:34, spudboy100
would not that I should reign overthem,
bring hither, and slay them before me.
--- Jesus, Luke 19:27
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On 6/25/2014 12:59 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
What is a crime is often defined by religion
That makes sense in primitive society, but religion might have nothing to say on the
terrestrial plane. You confuse religion, and the institutionalization of religion.
and it often includes
bounces back!
On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is in the exploitation
of that problem by bandits to hide their lucrative criminal activities.
This is naive. Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can purchase
-
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There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is in the
exploitation
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What about this Irish Times article? It seems to be out of the box
thinking. I don't know
On 26 June 2014 04:58, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/25/2014 4:34 AM, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:
Brent, Jesus people don't become murdering martyr's anymore,
Well there are those who murder abortion doctors. But lucrative criminal
acts includes a lot more than
On 23 Jun 2014, at 18:39, Richard Ruquist wrote:
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
Dear John,
it is wasted time and effort to argue who is right in a question
that raises 2 billion children in a 'faith' they will live by - AND
such 'faith'
://www.irishtimes.com/news/science/what-if-god-were-part-of-the-natural-order-1.1836816
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Dear John,
it is wasted time and effort to argue who is right
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On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Dear John,
it is wasted time
On 25 June 2014 03:34, spudboy100 via Everything List
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What about this Irish Times article? It seems to be out of the box
thinking. I don't know, if true, that it has any value for the human
species? But it might in my imagination. My imagination, plus
On 6/23/2014 7:47 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
There is a problem with radical islamism, but the real problem is in the exploitation of
that problem by bandits to hide their lucrative criminal activities.
This is naive. Bandits do lucrative criminal acts to get money which can purchase goods,
On 6/24/2014 12:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Google does not seem to know of its existence.
The net does not know everything, and contains a lot of propaganda of many
kinds.
Bruno
Have you read Scott Aaronson's latest blog in which he discusses the application of Google
technology to
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On 6/24/2014 12:39 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
Google does not seem to know
Dear John,
it is wasted time and effort to argue who is right in a question
that raises 2 billion children in a 'faith' they will live by - AND
such 'faith' does include the killing of 'infidels' (meaning: who do
not share their faith to the last comma) and many more peculiarities
which
Samiya,
On 21 Jun 2014, at 10:17, Samiya Illias wrote:
Bruno,
Thanks for the advise! I never intended to be not humble or not
modest, but perhaps I've not been very clear in expressing myself
and my beliefs.
Thanks, I might have been a bit rude. Sorry.
But at some point we will have to
On Mon, Jun 23, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
Dear John,
it is wasted time and effort to argue who is right in a question that
raises 2 billion children in a 'faith' they will live by - AND such 'faith'
does include the killing of 'infidels' (meaning: who do not
The blasphemy problem concerning religious text that was brought up by
Bruno in this thread, is present in Christianity/bible. What I have
difficulty understanding is how people who know that their God has
irreducible attributes that we cannot begin to comprehend, stick so close
to a text, that
Bruno,
Thanks for the advise! I never intended to be not humble or not modest, but
perhaps I've not been very clear in expressing myself and my beliefs. When
I speak of faith being God's gift, it doesn't mean necessarily being a
Muslim. In Quran, 2:62, we read: 'Lo! Those who believe (in that
Dear Samiya:
I was raised a 'believer' and studied several religions to end up as a
scientific agnostic who does not know the 'why'-s and 'how'-s but asks
questions about items other people believe in.
Many yeas ago on a different list I engaged in a discussion when an irate
'believer' bursted
Dear John,
According to what I read in the Quran and my understanding of it, all of us
humans, men and women, are in pledge for our beliefs and our deeds (Quran
52:21), and will benefit from our truthfulness (Quran 5:119). We are all
being tested, and all those who pass this terrestrial exam and
On 29 May 2014, at 05:33, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 28-May-2014, at 10:12 pm, Telmo Menezes te...@telmomenezes.com
wrote:
Ok, so let's talk some specifics.
Islamists issued death sentences on people for artistic expression.
Famously on Salman Rushdie for writing a book, and several
Dear Bruno,
it is wasted time and effort to argue who is right in a question that
raises 2 billion children in a 'faith' they will live by - AND such 'faith'
does include the killing of 'infidels' (meaning: who do not share their
faith to the last comma) and many more peculiarities which our
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On 29 May 2014, at 05:33, Samiya Illias wrote:
On 28-May-2014, at 10:12 pm, Telmo Menezes te
anyone going to war
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On 16 June 2014 00:09, spudboy100 via Everything List
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I style myself as informed about
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I style myself as informed about the aggressor. The clash of
civilizations
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Hitler supporters, at least the ones that actually gave financial support, were
mainly rich conservatives like Prescott Bush.
Richard
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On Monday, June 16, 2014 1:49:08 AM UTC+great feat saying that one is anti-war,
when they claimed is merely, anti-American military
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1. 9-11 in the US answered all questions regarding the Islamists as fair
as I am concerned.
2. The applied standard for patriotism is doing actions that help the US
survive long enough until the genuine AI is achieved,
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1. 9-11 in the US answered all questions regarding the Islamists as fair as I
am concerned.
2. The applied standard
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 1:27 AM, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
On 15 June 2014 03:37, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Spudboy (whatever that may mean) I was 22 when burried under bombing
ruins during WWII - and dug out by the enemy due to my good fluency in
their language. I was also
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I submit that with the official religion of Afghanistan
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Spudboy (whatever that may mean) I was 22 when burried under bombing
ruins during WWII - and dug out by the enemy due to my good fluency
in their language. I was also arrested by a Gestapo-like
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I style myself as informed about the aggressor. The clash of civilizations
is already here, and has been here, off and on for a few decades, in its
contemporary form. I do point out that many of the
On 16 June 2014 14:00, LizR lizj...@gmail.com wrote:
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I style myself as informed about the aggressor. The clash of
civilizations is already here, and has been here, off and on for a few
decades, in
it that is.
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Spudboy (whatever that may mean) I was 22 when burried under bombing ruins
during WWII - and dug out by the enemy due to my good fluency in their
language. I was also arrested by a Gestapo-like facility (talked out myself)
and later by the commis
Afghanistan – which I have lived in before the Russians – has suffered war
imposed on it by the great powers (of the era) since the British Raj. It is
easy to blame these victims of a forty year state of war – counting from
the Soviet invasion of Afghanistan; it is a little bit harder to
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Afghanistan – which I have lived in before the Russians – has suffered war
imposed on it by the great powers (of the era) since the British Raj. It is
easy
On 15 June 2014 03:37, John Mikes jami...@gmail.com wrote:
Spudboy (whatever that may mean) I was 22 when burried under bombing ruins
during WWII - and dug out by the enemy due to my good fluency in their
language. I was also arrested by a Gestapo-like facility (talked out
myself) and later
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I submit that with the official religion of Afghanistan, and with the
enablement of Sharia
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:39, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The inconceivable freedom is in your heart, but give time to time,
You are right and I'll shut up now :)
Please don't shut up!
As long as we stay polite the fun is in
On 13 Jun 2014, at 15:41, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:39, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The inconceivable freedom is in your heart, but give time to time,
You are right and I'll shut up now :)
Please
On 6/13/2014 6:41 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be
mailto:marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:39, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The inconceivable freedom is in your heart, but give time to time,
You are right
Telmo:
I am a multilinguist (similar to you I suppose) and consider the word
'democracy' as the rule Cratos of DEMOS. the totality of people. You
(and probably others, too) mean It
as a practical political format based on expression of desire by MANY
(majority - called) 'voters'. Although it
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 7:02 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 13 Jun 2014, at 15:41, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:39, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The inconceivable freedom is in your heart, but
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Yes, cycles absolutely can be broken, last things first, but first, people
have to see
On Fri, Jun 13, 2014 at 8:26 PM, meekerdb meeke...@verizon.net wrote:
On 6/13/2014 6:41 AM, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Thu, Jun 12, 2014 at 7:47 PM, Bruno Marchal marc...@ulb.ac.be wrote:
On 12 Jun 2014, at 13:39, Telmo Menezes wrote:
The inconceivable freedom is in your heart, but
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