Tony,
What make is it BO, Pink or something even more up or down market? and I
agree with you about belts (my last one I forgot to unclip it so it sketched
:-(
Cheers
Paul
Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse
Direct drive is the best for LP's. I used to have a pair of Technic
1200's in a past life.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday,
Yes, but Dan said it last, quoting Ed...
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Veld, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 6:02 PM
To: Exchange
It is an Empire Model# 598 II
It was the best I could find in my price range in 1976.
- Original Message -
From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 8:02 AM
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users that are paid by the hour.
We are trying to find a way to make it automated so they only have to hook their
laptops up to the phone line and go to bed.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL
Outlook XP? Tools:Settings:Mail Setup:Send/Receive. Several options there
for you.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Do they have an application which reads the e-mail to them in their sleep?
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 8:15 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Yes I am. They are offline users. They are remote users
that are paid
There are options there but not to automatically open Outlook. We need something that
I could setup through task scheduler that will open Outlook and perform a send/receive
and then close Outlook. Like I said in a previous post. These are hourly employees
that we don't want to pay while they
Ha ha!!!
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Do they have an
How do you know they aren't charging time for that anyway? They're on the
honor system by definition.
Have them use an OST. Automatic synch and they're not just staring at a
screen waiting. Note there is the option for an automatic send/receive every
X minutes. This will dial the number
Why not leave outlook open and use the accounts tab to schedule send and receives.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday,
I wasn't trying to be funny. If you'd ever get around to asking a proper
technical question then I'd answer it. Until then, I'm just trying to
understand what the fsck the actual requirements are.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
g
What Chris is saying in his typical abrasive way is that so far it looks
like you are attempting to create a technical solution to address a
non-technical problem.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 10:54 AM
To: Exchange
Bite me. I said no such thing. What you said my very well be true, but it's
not what I said.
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:03 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
g
What Chris is saying in his typical abrasive way
I think once the guy post the actual problem he's trying to solve, rather than his
non-solution to it, it will become clear that either BLAT or MAPISEND will solve the
problem. But who knows, since he won't give any details.
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL
If I had that, I would have noticed that he wants a scheduled execution of the F5 key,
and would have kept my mouth shut. Or perhaps suggested using the sendkeys thingy off
the resource kit (win2000 i think).
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;en-us;q259103
-Original
Well, 287677 might work as well depending on what the actual problem to be
solved is, but apparently this isn't the week for properly phrased technical
questions.
-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:45 AM
To: Exchange
Because we don't want people dialing up more than once. We have about 800 users and
only 40 lines. If I use Outlook it will dial ever X minutes. Also people travel with
these laptops and use outlook while they are not connected to a phone line. I don't
want Outlook trying to perform a sr
Sounds a VPN solution would make more sense. National coverage is easy these
days.
- Original Message -
From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:09 PM
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for
;)
-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Bite me. I said no such thing. What you said my very well be true, but it's
He said in another message that there are remote users (using Outlook in
remote offline mode, but apparently not synching to an OST). The company
does not want to pay them to download mail; they want a way to
programmatically start Outlook, force it to download mail and then shut
down. That is
That is the perfect description for an environment where Outlook is setup to
use an OST in offline mode. And the s/r frequency is configurable.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
Your being a total jerk about this question. I don't see what isn't
technical about this question. It wasn't a question of what our people
do, its how to automate our systems so they don't have to do as much
manual work and bill for it. Daniel Chenault hit the nail on the head.
It is creating a
Wow.Chris being a total jerk again. Come on tell me something new :)
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Gonzalez, Alex
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:07 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software
That's how we do it. Costs us $19.95 a month for an ATT WorldNet account
with POPs in every state our travelling users just connect up to the local
ATT POP and VPN into our network.
Works great.
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong
Well... First of all, Chris isn't being a jerk. In addition, if you're
using your client's resources -- ie, the phone and the computer -- for
several hours at night, don't they deserve renumeration?
Nevertheless...
What you want is for Outlook to start, dial up the server, download
mail, hang
You failed to provide sufficient detail in the question so that those trying
to provide assistance could do so. Sprinkled throughout a half dozen posts
were an ever changing set of requirements and hints as to the actual design
goal. Below you've managed to summarize them into what almost
Still waiting for you to provide a shining example of how I ought to be
doing it by tackling all of those hard technical questions with gusto and
aplomb. But as usual it seems you're much more inclined to engage in silly
banter or name calling.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher
The process doesn't necessarily have to shut the pc down. It's a laptop
and it will hibernate. These are XP pro laptops. I know about the
scheduled task. That is mainly what I am looking to do. I am just
looking for a switch that performs a s/r when Outlook opens. Outlook
already will then
I didn't want to confuse/bore people with a long story of what I was
trying to accomplish just find out if there was a switch for the F9 key.
I appreciate that you may need more information in most cases but I
didn't think it was necessary for this question.
The reason why we don't want them to
Lets see 800 users 40 incoming lines. Assume each person checks his email 8
times a day and stays on for 20 minutes. Twenty people per line. There are
3600 minutes in a day. Eight accesses, times twenty people, times 20 minutes
per call comes out to 3200. Wow I would like to see that phone bill.
Oh no my only purpose now is to sit on this list and point out every
time you're an ass to everyone. Good thing you don't keep me waiting
long
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:38 AM
To:
You didn't say there is no such thing as Outllok XP, Chris was pointing
out the fact that there isn't and you are calling it that.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:48 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command
Sounds to me like all of these issues are just the cost of doing business.
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Lets
You may not have wanted to confuse/bore people but it appears that you were
getting answers all over the spectrum based on the information you provided.
Providing detailed information will rarely if ever get complaints form this
list.
You didn't say there wasn't an Outlook XP, you said there
Actually they don't check their email all day. They just download the
days mail and read that till the next day. We are trying to implement
wireless cards so that they can always check mail. Right now its too
inconsistent for our reps. They stock CD's at stores and there is too
much RF in many
YOU didn't say it, Chris said it. There is no such think as Outlook XP.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November
Not shutting down the PC, shutting down outlook.
You can set Outlook to download mail when it opens and/or closes.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex
I'm sorry. I didn't realize asking for additional technical information so
that I could answer a question (for free) was ass like behavior. Thank you
for clarifying that.
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:51 PM
Just to be clear; you're using .OSTs or .PSTs?
Also, what was wrong with Tools | Options | Mail Setup | Send Immediately
When Connected?
Aloha,
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
Who sends them all this stuff? Is it the home office, or is it a number of
people all over the place?
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software
I was thinking that Wireless would be a good solution. Especially if it is
just text messages. Good Luck.
- Original Message -
From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd
How? That is what I am looking for.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:05 PM
To: Exchange
Its' OST's. It doesn't begin to dial when it opens.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM
To: Exchange
Both. Home offices all over the place. We are a music distributor.
These people are the ones that stock the shelves at your local Kmart or
Walmart with music. They are in the store all day long stocking shelves
so they don't have connectivity.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems
Limit their logon hours to the wee hours. They can dial-up all they want,
they'll get punted outside those hours. You can stagger the hours and tell
them what their window is.
There is no such command switch as you seek. There is the option to s/r on
startup and scheduling OL to startup on a
Damn, you've got a full-time job there. Does it pay well?
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Oh no my only
TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
thinking outside the box
What is this 2M file? Does it have to be 2M? Is it generic for all users,
specific to a region, specific to one user? Specific to one store, group of
stores, or what? There may be another way to do this.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL
I know someone who does that same job for TimeWarner (AOL) and all of their
magazines.
They dial on and download their email during the day. The company will pop
for high speed internet if they can get it.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
I still enjoy my turntable. Some people when they come over are in awe that
they still exist. It's even manual. Although finding belts for it is getting
tough.
- Original Message -
From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November
Well its mainly pictures of what displays are going to be in the store.
Some of these files used to be Gig sized but our advertising department
has shrunk them down quite a bit.
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:41 PM
For some reason for me that function doesn't do anything. It wont dial
automatically.
-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
TOOLS/OPTIONS/MAIL SETUP.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network
Ours wont. They wont even pay for an admins cable modem for support.
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
I know someone who does that same job for TimeWarner (AOL) and all of
their
Do you have Outlook configured to connect via LAN or via dialup? (Under the
Exchange Server settings, Connection tab)
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original Message-
From:
Are they paying the phone bills for these people to dial-in?
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
Via Dialup. Its supposed to connection state when you do a s/r. if
there isn't a connection it dials our RAS box.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL
They should be in .jpg format and no larger than 20K. As an example: the
picture of my truck at http://web.nova1.net/danielc/bustinout.htm is only
26K and it still looks good. There are utilities out there that can do batch
compression of a whole folder of such pictures. Note: zipping .jpg files
Why not a web-page?
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 2:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties of the account?
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November
What does the receiver do with these images? Are they sent to a printer, or
are they just FYI, or what?
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software
Slippery when wet...
-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 12:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
What does it say on the CONNECTION tab of the properties
Nice truck
No idea. I wish they would.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:52 PM
To: Exchange
Yea the company pays 17.95 per month for access to this 800 number.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:50 PM
Honestly Martin I have no idea. I think they print them off and show
them to the store manager. I don't really know everything those people
do.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From:
Use phone line. Then the connection is chosen below.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:53 PM
To:
lmao
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
OXP
Slippery when wet...
-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson
I guess the point is that if they are sending these massive images and all
they are doing is printing a comp on an ink jet to show the store manager,
the problem isn't an email or bandwidth issue at all, but rather a user
issue with the imaging folk. They need to be taught these people don't need
That and that there is an alternative. Two that I can think of:
1. ftp
2. website
Both would be accessible via the internet, thus no tying up the dial-up
lines. The field reps would have to provide their own internet connectivity
(which is really cheap these days).
-Original Message-
That my friend is a long standing battle. We have people that think its
ok to send out 30meg files to these people.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
I was thinking the same thing. Particularly a website. You could even email
the links to a web server
Htpp://servername/newhootersmagazinecover.jpg
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Right. And like I said before we are trying to implement wireless we
are just waiting for the technology to get better.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Daniel Chenault
Well then there needs to be some kind of meeting of the minds. Obviously you
cant support your email users in the current environment (I don't mean this
in a bad way). This discussion proves it.
The company doesn't want to spend any money, they don't want the users to
have to wait for their mail,
Then how would they check their email?
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:11 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Well that would work except they can't
I agree. To top it off they put everything in Powerpoint presentations
and send them out too.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
They can synchronize the webpages for offline access. Internet Explorer |
Tools | Synchronize.
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex
Well, I would say you have been presented with some good options. My
suggestion would be to put them all in a document and pass it on to the
powers that be.
The magical email system probably wont do it. But there are a couple of
other attractive methods that have been presented.
-Original
They don't check it during the day online. They dialup and download and
check it when they get to work. They are always a day behind.
Basically email tells them a couple of things... 1. what stock they are
getting shipped to the store 2. updates previews of upcoming merch 3.
junk mail from
Yea that's true but we don't work with the most technically literate
people.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25,
Ok... This isn't an email problem anymore. Go back to your bosses and
tell them that this is an IT infrastructure issue, and it cannot be
fixed by setting outlook to dial in at 2 am.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Those don't go out via IT people they go through merchandiser that don't
realize the impact because they can send them to joe schmo next to them
quickly so why not dialup users.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems Administrator
Handleman Company
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(248) 362-4400 Ext. 4914
Geez will this never end another thing. Now it's the Merchandiser software.
- Original Message -
From: Gonzalez, Alex [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Exchange Discussions [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:21 PM
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on
Ahhh.
Then put a delivery size restriction on the IMS. Sorry, if you don't resize
those, we don't get them
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software
You're not listening. You need to communicate to whomever this affects
and tell them to do it a different way. Pick any one of the solutions
provided.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Born To Edit
-Original
I think he means the Merchandiser department; as opposed to the IT
department.
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original Message-
From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Well... Uh...how can I say this without being seen as rude or flaming?
Hmm... Well, there is no way to say it.
You are the _Senior_ Systems Administrator. Take control. Are you not
responsible for the efficient and continued operation of this network? Can
you not make a successful argument that
Clever. That might work unless the CEO is a nitwit who doesn't understand
why you did it and orders you to turn if off again.
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original
Holy crap.
As I said before, searching for a technical solution to a non-technical
problem. Let the field reps drop the pics into a PPT themselves. Takes 20
seconds.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:14 PM
To: Exchange
Sounds like it's time for some user education.
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25,
Well, they don't have to be technically literate. They have to be able to
follow directions. If I hire a guy to work on my car I don't care if he
knows how to machine a head out of a solid block of metal.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday,
Again...
Lesee.. What was the phrase Ed coined? There are no technological solutions
for behavior problems?
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:22 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party
There are seldom good technological solutions for behavioral problems. (I
think that's it)
Wise words.
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
-Original Message-
From: Daniel
Its because the people that are between me and the CIO are wimps.
Sorry. If I had it my way a lot of things would be different here. I
make plenty of arguments they just ignore me. But think of the job
Market and how weak it is for us right now.
Thank you,
Alex Gonzalez
Senior Systems
Go over their heads.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
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-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 3:33 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject:
Would it be career suicide to go over their heads to the CIO directly; or is
there nobody higher up who would understand/act upon your recommendations?
-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
Actually the CIO is the most reasonable to work with. The only thing is
he likes the chain of command format.
-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 4:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Would it be career suicide to go over their
Write up a document with every suggestion and reason we've given you and
send it to your boss, and cc everyone above him because of the highly
significant business impact of the project.
Drew Nicholson
Technical Writer
Network Engineer
LAN Manager
RapidApp
312-372-7188 (work)
312-543-0008 (cell)
Well, this is one of those cases where people can bitch and moan as much as
they want. There still isn't a good technogical solution no matter how much
they cry. Someone that can do something needs to be made aware of it and act
on it as well.
-Original Message-
From: Gonzalez, Alex
I was thinking the same thing.
-Original Message-
From: Drew Nicholson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 1:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Command Switch or 3rd Party software for Send/Recieve on OXP
Write up a document with every suggestion and
Maybe you can try to convene a meeting with him and the links in between?
Or maybe you can present your idea to your boss and make it seem like it was
his idea. (Hey boss, do you think it would work if we put all those
graphics files on an secured web page that our remote users could just
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