, June 09, 2011 4:42 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
Took a bit to find, but of historic interest:
http://tamersahin.com/mssecrets/hotmail.html
I remember the news articles around that time and their laughter. It was
still fun to read a decade later; we've come so far, yet
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
You can find the whitepaper that discusses the Hotmail move to Windows.
It's available for download at Microsoft.com/downloads.
The product
, 2011 12:39 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
Is Live@EDU just universities?
Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: KevinM
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
It is getting closer to Exchange.. Live@EDU
You can find the whitepaper that discusses the Hotmail move to Windows. It's
available for download at Microsoft.com/downloads.
The product you are thinking of is MCIS - Microsoft Commercial Internet System.
It was supposed to be integrated into Exchange/IIS with Project Mercury.
Effectively
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
The specific product by that name? Yes.
It is the same platform as Office 365 though.
Regards,
Michael B. Smith
Consultant and Exchange MVP
http://TheEssentialExchange.com
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From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:ryan.finne
And public K-12's.
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
The specific product by that name? Yes.
It is the same platform as Office 365 though.
Regards
And some big universities..
-Original Message-
From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 8:35 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
And public K-12's.
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich
And us not so big college's
Philip Lock
Network Systems Manager
Moulsham Street CM2 0JQ
01245 293023
www.chelmsford.ac.uk
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From: KevinM [mailto:kev...@wlkmmas.org]
Sent: 08 June 2011 13:42
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
And some big universities
I would find that an inserting read.
Cheers
Ryan
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
You can find the whitepaper that discusses the Hotmail move to Windows
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I would find that an inserting read.
Cheers
Ryan
-Original Message-
From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
You
Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
I would find that an inserting read.
Cheers
Ryan
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:08 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
You can find the whitepaper
Lol yes it does :)
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From: Rankin, James R [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 3:15 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail?
Auto correct rocks
:-)
Typed frustratingly slowly on my BlackBerry® wireless device
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, and all of the email for Exchange team - among some other random
pockets.
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From: Michael B. Smith [mailto:mich...@smithcons.com]
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 7:02 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
The specific product by that name? Yes
Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM).
Kat Aylward
On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey
ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote:
Does anyone happen to know what Microsoft is using to deliver the Hotmail
service? Is it Exchange?
Cheers
Ryan
I remember years ago when they aguared hotmail it ran on UNIX. There was talk
of moving it to windows. I also remember Microsoft had a product they offered
to large ISPs for email but I do not know what ever happened to that product.
Sent from my Windows Phone
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to the new platform. much hardware to be deployed!!
On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Ryan Finnesey
ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com wrote:
I remember years ago when they aguared hotmail it ran on UNIX. There was
talk of moving it to windows. I also remember Microsoft had a product
Azure data centre platform?
Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: Kat Aylward
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 11:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail?
Move to Windows OS but not Exchange. Their environment is too message heavy
to handle that. They do use
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Cc: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail?
Nope it is home grown (says the former Hotmail Operations PM).
Kat Aylward
On Jun 7, 2011, at 7:12 PM, Ryan Finnesey
ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.commailto:ryan.finne...@harrierinvestments.com
wrote:
Does anyone happen to know what
Is Live@EDU just universities?
Sent from my Windows Phone
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From: KevinM
Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 12:14 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail?
It is getting closer to Exchange.. Live@EDU is up to something like 60,000,000+
mailboxes
I have a sales guy traveling in Ethiopia Africa. Remote Mail, OWA or BB does
not work but he can get Hotmail and Live messenger. He asked if I
temporarily cold forward his e-mail to Hotmail, what's the best way of doing
this? In EMC I can forward mail but only to internal mails, so I went
Create a contact with the hotmail addy and send it to that.
From: Stefan Jafs [mailto:stefan.j...@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 1:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Forward e-mail to hotmail
I have a sales guy traveling in Ethiopia Africa. Remote Mail, OWA or BB does
but he can get Hotmail and Live messenger. He asked if I
temporarily cold forward his e-mail to Hotmail, what's the best way of doing
this? In EMC I can forward mail but only to internal mails, so I went in to
ADUC added a User Mailbox with the Hotmail account. However after an hour
EMC still can’t
: Monday, September 13, 2010 12:53 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Forward e-mail to hotmail
I have a sales guy traveling in Ethiopia Africa. Remote Mail, OWA or BB does
not work but he can get Hotmail and Live messenger. He asked if I temporarily
cold forward his e-mail to Hotmail
Also I believe you could setup a transport rule.
From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org]
Sent: Monday, September 13, 2010 2:00 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Forward e-mail to hotmail
Create a contact with the hotmail addy and send it to that.
From: Stefan Jafs
Anyone on this list know what mailserver MS uses for Hotmail? I'm curious as
it came up in a conversation yesterday.
James
~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~
~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone on this list know what mailserver MS uses for Hotmail? I'm curious as
it came up in a conversation yesterday.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hotmail
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:46 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone on this list know what mailserver MS uses for Hotmail? I'm curious
as
it came up in a conversation yesterday.
http
Hotmail uses a proprietary application developed inhouse. They do not
use a thirdparty product.
Kat
(former HM PM)
On 9/24/08, Michael B. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Which basically says we don't know. :-P
Regards,
Michael B. Smith, MCITP:SA,EMA/MCSE/Exchange MVP
My blog: http
@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: Hotmail
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, James Kerr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Anyone on this list know what mailserver MS uses for Hotmail? I'm curious
as
it came up in a conversation yesterday.
http
/Exchange MVP
My blog: http://TheEssentialExchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
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From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail
, 2008 11:19 AM
Subject: RE: Hotmail
I didn't know that you hung around here. Are you new to the mailing list,
or
are you a lurker?
I think the question of the OP was whether HM is completely on MSFT-based
solutions now, or does it still have a foot (or more) in the open-source
world?
Regards
Kat would know, she might have Ran hotmail for a while or something like
that.
The plan going forward with the wave 14 Exchange push is to migrate hotmail to
Exchange. This message is coming to you live from a Microsoft hosted E14
server. Not that I can tell you anything more than
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Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:45 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail
Kat would know, she might have Ran hotmail for a while or something like
that.
The plan going forward with the wave 14 Exchange push is to migrate hotmail
to Exchange. This message is coming
collections. But I have no idea.
From: Micheal Espinola Jr [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:16 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: Hotmail
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:07 AM, James Kerr
A custom MTA? External.exe perhaps? J
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 24 September 2008 17:17
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail
When I want something to be true, I just upload it to wikipedia. - Stephen
Colbert
Last I heard from a Microsoft
/blogs/michaelhttp://theessentialexchange.com/blogs/michael
Link with me at: http://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
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From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 11:11 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Holy [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is hilarious! I lurve me some
Exchange,
but there is no way in Hades that Exchange as it stands now or in what I
understand for the next 3 generations, could handle the volume, load and
uptime requirements of Hotmail. Knowing the backend
Thanks for the info Kat
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From: Kat Collins
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: Hotmail
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Holy [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is hilarious! I lurve me
some Exchange, but there is no way
Message -
*From:* Kat Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED]
*To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Sent:* Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:24 PM
*Subject:* Re: Hotmail
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Holy [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is hilarious! I lurve me some
Exchange
The database will be SQL, too.
From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail
HAHAHAHAHAHA!! Holy [EMAIL PROTECTED] that is hilarious! I lurve me some
Exchange,
but there is no way
://www.linkedin.com/in/theessentialexchange
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 4:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail
The database will be SQL, too.
From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008
Oracle
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 1:11 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail
The database will be SQL, too.
From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:24 AM
To: MS
How are you planning for HA, and SLA ? IF you were to plan DAS replicas as
backups and no long term storage how would your design change?
From: Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Re: Hotmail
Now
With something like Hotmail I would assume you need some kind of thin
provisioning mechanism for disks. I'm not sure if DAS can do that and for
something like Hotmail / Gmail you would pretty much have to thin provision
your storage design.
From: KevinM [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent
willing to bet that hotmail/gmail code makes lots of assumptions that
things WORK and on errors you just bail. Whereas an enterprise class system
like Exchange makes lots of assumptions about things breaking and how to
recover from that.
It makes for a difference in mentality in coding efficiency
, 2008 7:26 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Hotmail
With something like Hotmail I would assume you need some kind of thin
provisioning mechanism for disks. I'm not sure if DAS can do that and for
something like Hotmail / Gmail you would pretty much have to thin provision
your storage
speak in hypotheticals, so ask away and if I can answer, I
will...
On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 7:26 PM, Martin Blackstone [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
With something like Hotmail I would assume you need some kind of thin
provisioning mechanism for disks. I'm not sure if DAS can do
PM
*To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: Hotmail
With something like Hotmail I would assume you need some kind of thin
provisioning mechanism for disks. I'm not sure if DAS can do that and for
something like Hotmail / Gmail you would pretty much have to thin provision
your storage
Keeping in mind, that is really only about 1200 users and 299,998,800
mailboxes.
From: KevinM [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 7:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: RE: Hotmail
How
-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
*Subject*: RE: Hotmail
How are you planning for HA, and SLA ? IF you were to plan DAS replicas
as backups and no long term storage how would your design change?
*From:* Kat Collins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Wednesday
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