Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-14 Thread Matt Stegman
That's the /root/tmp directory that's listed, not /tmp. You're right, /tmp should have 1777 permissions, but /root/tmp should be 700. -Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 10 Jul 2000, David Talbot wrote: > On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > don't delete while running X server but you s

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-12 Thread David Talbot
On Fri, 07 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > don't delete while running X server but you safely delete them before > > running X (and it's what we do in the initscripts). > > What should the permissions be inside /root/tmp for X stuff ? > Mine looks like this... > [root: ~/tmp]# ll -d . > drwx--2

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > "Brian T. Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > X would not start. > > > > *That* is the problem. > > > > /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to > > wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not.

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
"Brian T. Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > X would not start. > > *That* is the problem. > > /tmp should contain only temporary files; it should be perfectly safe to > wipe out the entire contents of /tmp and reboot, but with 7.0 it is not. what is the permission of your /tmp dir

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Alexander Skwar
On Sat, Jul 08, 2000 at 11:05:17PM -0600, Steve Browne wrote: > On 07 Jul 2000 12:11:04 -0700, you wrote: > > >Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> When I boot Mandrake 7.1, the run list says at one point "clean-up > >> /tmp". So /tmp is cleared out on every boot. /root/tmp is where t

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
Chmouel Boudjnah wrote: > > "Brian T. Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. > > i did the implementation of ''Clean up /tmp'' and i don't see what is > the problem ? you can have problem if you have a cron who delete the > .X*

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-09 Thread Steve Browne
On 07 Jul 2000 12:11:04 -0700, you wrote: >Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> When I boot Mandrake 7.1, the run list says at one point "clean-up >> /tmp". So /tmp is cleared out on every boot. /root/tmp is where the X >> files are that you shouldn't delete. > >yes right if you have the

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
"Brian T. Schellenberger" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. i did the implementation of ''Clean up /tmp'' and i don't see what is the problem ? you can have problem if you have a cron who delete the .X* files when X running but since it is onl

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
Steve Browne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On 06 Jul 2000 11:21:29 -0700, you wrote: > > >John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > >> > ? ok what is the question excatly i didn't followed the thread... > >> Thanks. :-) The question was why you folks put the stuff in /tmp and > >> later

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > It seems pretty obvious that they DIDN'T think about it. > It's been fixed in 7.1 anyway, as I understand it. > Sort of. It's now in /root/tmp, instead of /tmp. *shrug* John

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-08 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: > John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > Try it at > > > > > > http://forum.mandrakesoft.com > > > > > > Our own version of slashdot > > > > > I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-07 Thread Daniel Woods
> don't delete while running X server but you safely delete them before > running X (and it's what we do in the initscripts). What should the permissions be inside /root/tmp for X stuff ? Mine looks like this... [root: ~/tmp]# ll -d . drwx--2 root root 2048 Jul 6 11:31 ./ [r

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > Try it at > > > > http://forum.mandrakesoft.com > > > > Our own version of slashdot > > > I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on > that subject. :-) It would be NICE if they'd use this mail list! >

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Brian T. Schellenberger
Mark Weaver wrote: > > Have you tried re-creating this directory? sorry if you already stated > this in an earlier post. I don't have that one in my inbox any longer, but > it seems to me that would be the next logical step in the process. > > I would think that /tmp would be an important part o

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread bobby dowling
The people on cooker have answers, but you just have to be careful not to ask too many non-cooker related questions, I guess. >From: Chmouel Boudjnah <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >Subject: Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't s

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Steve Browne
On 06 Jul 2000 11:21:29 -0700, you wrote: >John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > ? ok what is the question excatly i didn't followed the thread... >> Thanks. :-) The question was why you folks put the stuff in /tmp and >> later in /root/tmp that causes X to go bad when you delete it

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Mark Weaver
Have you tried re-creating this directory? sorry if you already stated this in an earlier post. I don't have that one in my inbox any longer, but it seems to me that would be the next logical step in the process. I would think that /tmp would be an important part of the file system and a server s

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > Try it at > > > > http://forum.mandrakesoft.com > > > > Our own version of slashdot > > > I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on > that subject. :-) It would be NICE if they'd use

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > ? ok what is the question excatly i didn't followed the thread... > Thanks. :-) The question was why you folks put the stuff in /tmp and > later in /root/tmp that causes X to go bad when you delete it? You we put nothing in /root/tmp only DrakConf

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Thu, 06 Jul 2000, you wrote: > John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to > > > direct a question to the Mandrake team. > > Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the > > Mandrake team hang out in th

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Try it at > > http://forum.mandrakesoft.com > > Our own version of slashdot > I emaild Chmouel. Maybe he'll deign to post in here their thinking on that subject. :-) It would be NICE if they'd use this mail list! John

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-06 Thread Chmouel Boudjnah
John Aldrich <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to > > direct a question to the Mandrake team. > Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the > Mandrake team hang out in this list apparently the ones who hang > o

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Civileme
John Aldrich wrote: > On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to > > direct a question to the Mandrake team. > > > Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of > the Mandrake team hang out in this list apparently

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Wed, 05 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Maybe a question for the cooker list? I don't really know how else to > direct a question to the Mandrake team. > Maybe, but I've had the distinct impression that some of the Mandrake team hang out in this list apparently the ones who hang out either don'

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Michael Holt
Civileme wrote: > > Michael Holt wrote: > > > > > > > Socket programming protocols basically form sockets for ONE task > > > and then destroy it. In this case, it appears to be needed at > > > boot time as the target of a symlink. > > > > > > Civileme > > > > Ok, that makes sense; which brings m

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Michael Holt
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > Has there ever been a satisfactory explanation of WHY they > > > put PERMANENT stuff in a temporary directory? It seems > > > rather loco to me to put ANYTHING you want to keep in a > > > TEMP directory... :-) > > > John > > >

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Matt Stegman
Oh, wait! When you `ls -ld /tmp` do the permissions read: drwxrwxrwt If not, `chmod 1777 /tmp`, which should fix your permissions. Try starting X again. -Matt Stegman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> On Mon, 3 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Has there ever been a satisfactory explanation of WHY they > > put PERMANENT stuff in a temporary directory? It seems > > rather loco to me to put ANYTHING you want to keep in a > > TEMP directory... :-) > > John > > Is it something that is overwritten

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-05 Thread Civileme
Michael Holt wrote: > > > > Socket programming protocols basically form sockets for ONE task > > and then destroy it. In this case, it appears to be needed at > > boot time as the target of a symlink. > > > > Civileme > > Ok, that makes sense; which brings my next question, what would be a > s

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Michael Holt
> Socket programming protocols basically form sockets for ONE task > and then destroy it. In this case, it appears to be needed at > boot time as the target of a symlink. > > Civileme Ok, that makes sense; which brings my next question, what would be a simpler term for 'socket programming pro

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Civileme
Michael Holt wrote: > > John Aldrich wrote: > > > > On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > > > Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is > > > sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of > > > /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use >

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Michael Holt
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is > > sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of > > /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use > > /root/tmp which most people leave

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Michael Holt
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the > > 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. > > What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's > > co

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Henrik Edlund
On Tue, 4 Jul 2000, John Aldrich wrote: > On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > > > Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is > > sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of > > /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use > > /root/tmp which

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 04 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > Yes, /tmp should be for temporary stuff. And this "stuff" is > sockets, in this case, in a hidden directory. In 7.1 the use of > /tmp for these sockets has been discontinued. Now they use > /root/tmp which most people leave alone. > Has there ever been a

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-04 Thread Charles Curley
On Mon, Jul 03, 2000 at 05:28:56PM -0700, Mike & Tracy Holt wrote: > I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the > 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. > What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's >

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Civileme
John Aldrich wrote: > > On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the > > 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. > > What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's > > co

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the > 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. > What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's > contents? > Generally, it's exactl

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Mike & Tracy Holt
I would like to add a question here if I may; I'm used to Windows where the 'temp' directory is for temporary stuff and should be dumped periodically. What is the /tmp directory in *nix used for and why can't I delete it's contents? Thanks, Mike > On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > > On Tue, Jun

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread John Aldrich
On Tue, 27 Jun 2000, you wrote: > Experts - > > Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. > I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to > start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to > start X or KDM. > I can boot into text mode fine. > > What can I

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread John Aldrich
On Mon, 03 Jul 2000, you wrote: > On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:20:54AM -0400, Thiessen David G DLVA wrote: > > > Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. > > I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to > > start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to >

Re: [expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Jon
On Tue, Jun 27, 2000 at 08:20:54AM -0400, Thiessen David G DLVA wrote: > Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. > I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to > start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to > start X or KDM. > I can boot into text mo

[expert] Deleted /tmp now X won't start

2000-07-03 Thread Thiessen David G DLVA
Experts - Like an idiot, I accidentally deleted my /tmp directory. I recreated the directory, but after rebooting, X fails to start. It seems to be stuck in an infinite loop trying to start X or KDM. I can boot into text mode fine. What can I do to get X back up and running... Dave -- David