[expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Lawson, Jim
What does this mean for the future of Mandrake? I know that Mandrake is based on red hat's rpm's.. James S. Lawson Network Manager Brown Raysman Millstein Felder Steiner 900 Third Avenue New York, NY 10022 Tel: (212) 895-2679 (@ @)

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Jack Coates
Er, not really. The RPM standard is GPL and many distributions use it for packaging. When Mandrake got its start it was basically RH compiled for i586 with KDE installed, but things have changed since 1998 or so. msec, urpmi, the Drak tools, different handling of internationalization, it's not RH

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Franki
Lawson, Jim wrote: What does this mean for the future of Mandrake? I know that Mandrake is based on red hat's rpm's.. No, That used to be the case.. nowdays mandrake rolls its own RPM's and has for some time now... I imagine this is good news for mandrake as there will be a ton of redhat

RE: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Lawson, Jim
I hope so. -Original Message- From: Franki [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 9:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line Lawson, Jim wrote: What does this mean for the future of Mandrake? I know that Mandrake is based

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Artemio
Lawson, Jim wrote: What does this mean for the future of Mandrake? I know that Mandrake is based on red hat's rpm's.. Franki wrote: No, The reason I moved to mandrake was that it is not redhat. :-) I had RH 7.3 running for more than a year. Then RH 8.0 came out and it was crap. Then I

RE: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Lawson, Jim
Hat ends free product line Lawson, Jim wrote: What does this mean for the future of Mandrake? I know that Mandrake is based on red hat's rpm's.. Franki wrote: No, The reason I moved to mandrake was that it is not redhat. :-) I had RH 7.3 running for more than a year. Then RH 8.0 came out

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:15:17 +0200 Artemio [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The main thing for mdk cookers to keep in mind is compatibility with other distros - just to be sure there will be no problems compiling sources. I must say, for all the blabber I hear about Mandrake not following those

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 07:22, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 17:15:17 +0200 Artemio [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: The main thing for mdk cookers to keep in mind is compatibility with other distros - just to be sure there will be no problems compiling sources. I must say, for all

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:38:30 -0800 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: yup LOL! yup it's something different, or yup that's what LSB means? -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org ++ Mandrake

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Jack Coates
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 07:49, HaywireMac wrote: On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:38:30 -0800 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: yup LOL! yup it's something different, or yup that's what LSB means? Man, nobody reads my mind properly... I guess the AFDB is working :-) Yup, it's LSB. standard

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Eric Huff
This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something different? yup Would that be a yup to the LSB, or a yup to something different? -- Mandrake HowTo's More: http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 07:58:27 -0800 Jack Coates [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Man, nobody reads my mind properly... I guess the AFDB is working :-) Yup, it's LSB. standard file system, standard compiler and glibc conventions. Gotcha, thanks! -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Eric Huff
yup LOL! yup it's something different, or yup that's what LSB means? Now you're scaring me, man! Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Artemio
This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something different? Well, I didn't mean I had any problems compiling anything on mdk. I just say cookers must keep this good thing!!! :-) Maybe I'm not exactly correct, but there should be a binary compatibility as well.

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Artemio
Eric Huff wrote: yup LOL! yup it's something different, or yup that's what LSB means? Now you're scaring me, man! Damn, this thread is LOL!!! Keep on chatting, guys! :-) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Lawson, Jim
juno6 was a cool keyboard. -Original Message- From: Artemio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Artemio
Lawson, Jim wrote: juno6 was a cool keyboard. Yes... Aghh... those sweet analogues... :-) So, are you a keyboard player? Just asking because I am (since 13 years). Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

RE: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Lawson, Jim
Guitar for 20 years keyboards for 5... -Original Message- From: Artemio [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2003 11:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line Lawson, Jim wrote: juno6 was a cool keyboard. Yes... Aghh... those

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 08:01, Eric Huff wrote: This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something different? yup Would that be a yup to the LSB, or a yup to something different? I could be a real a$$ and just say yup here again. But it's IMHO a combination of

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread James Sparenberg
On Tue, 2003-11-04 at 08:17, Artemio wrote: This must be due to Mandrake's signing on to the LSB? Or is that something different? Well, I didn't mean I had any problems compiling anything on mdk. I just say cookers must keep this good thing!!! :-) Maybe I'm not exactly correct, but

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Artemio
The difference in libs between RH7.3 (MDK 8.2 time) and now are so great as to make a number of older compiled binaries choke. The biggest difference is that RH7.3(MDK8.2) is compiled with gcc2.9x and now it's gcc3.x The incompatibility is there. Remember that the distro's aren't Linux, but

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread Robert Thyberg
The sequel to RH 9 is Fedora, next issue is ???. Still free. See: http://fedora.redhat.com/ Severn is the code name. RCT Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread John Wilson
On November 4, 2003 08:12 am, Eric Huff wrote: yup LOL! yup it's something different, or yup that's what LSB means? Now you're scaring me, man! Haywire's main role in life is to scare as many people as he can. Just as his good buddy Earnie Eves. :-) ttfn John Want to buy your Pack or

Re: [expert] Red Hat ends free product line

2003-11-04 Thread HaywireMac
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003 18:27:37 -0800 John Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] uttered: Just as his good buddy Earnie Eves. :-) Ernie Eves?! He's about as far from me philosophically as you can get, man! -- HaywireMac ++ ICQ # 279518458 Registered Linux user #282046 Homepage: www.orderinchaos.org