Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-26 Thread Steve Howes
Dave Lers wrote: > > On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > bought a K62-500 instead. > > > Considering the fact that I managed to totally mis-match the board and > > > chip, it has been a remarkably wonderful processor. Winflop is unstable; > > > Linux wo

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-26 Thread Dave Lers
On Sat, 26 Aug 2000, Stephen F. Bosch wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > bought a K62-500 instead. > > Considering the fact that I managed to totally mis-match the board and > > chip, it has been a remarkably wonderful processor. Winflop is unstable; > > Linux won't install - but the chip never

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-26 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I was going to buy the K63-450 in February. The tech told me AMD didn't > support the K3 because the tri-level cache was flaky and undependable IF I > was doing equations and other mathematical computations. Based on that and > the fact I don't know anything about a c

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-26 Thread ibi
I was going to buy the K63-450 in February. The tech told me AMD didn't support the K3 because the tri-level cache was flaky and undependable IF I was doing equations and other mathematical computations. Based on that and the fact I don't know anything about a cache, I bought a K62-500 instead. C

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-26 Thread Joerg Mertin
On Fri, Aug 25, 2000 at 10:59:32PM -0400, Richard Potter wrote: > On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Jean-Louis Debert wrote: > > > The L1 cache _always_ runs at processor speed on any processor > > that I know of ... To do otherwise would defeat its purpose IMHO. > > But the K6-3 also has 256K of _L2_ cache

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-25 Thread Richard Potter
On Thu, 24 Aug 2000, Jean-Louis Debert wrote: > The L1 cache _always_ runs at processor speed on any processor > that I know of ... To do otherwise would defeat its purpose IMHO. > But the K6-3 also has 256K of _L2_ cache (yep, level 2, the cache > on the MB, if any, is level 3) running at full p

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-24 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.
Jean-Louis Debert wrote: > > "Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote: > > The K6-3 is a kissing cousin of the K6-2. The only diff is that > > on the K6-3, the L1 cache runs at processor speed, whereas on > > K6-2, the L1 is slower. > > The L1 cache _always_ runs at processor speed on any processor > that I kn

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Jean-Louis Debert
"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote: > The K6-3 is a kissing cousin of the K6-2. The only diff is that > on the K6-3, the L1 cache runs at processor speed, whereas on > K6-2, the L1 is slower. The L1 cache _always_ runs at processor speed on any processor that I know of ... To do otherwise would defeat its

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.
Vic wrote: > > Sorry, what is a scaled dog? > Does it mean fast? > I've heard of catfish, but not dogfish... Ron -- +--+ | Ron Johnson, Jr.Home: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | | Jefferson, LA USA WWW : [EMAIL PROTECTED] | |

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Mark Weaver
Poodles? I God nolap shark! hoppin hanky hacker!! no thanks. been there done that never wanna do it again. -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | ** =\/

RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Mark Weaver
On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.) wrote: > Maybe he means it runs like a raped ape. > > > -Original Message- > > From: Vic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:22 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subj

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Mark Weaver
I think it's akin to a raped ape, or shakin like a dog crappin razor-blades. that sorta thing. get the picture? :)_ -- Mark ** =/\= No Penguins were harmed | ICQ#27816299 ** <_||_> in the making of this | *

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Vic
This ain't no flame, its just a poodle. Poodles are ok by me so you could say there is one dog I like, hehe. On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Vic wrote: > > > > Sorry, what is a scaled dog? > > Does it mean fast? > > > Sorry, hadn't had my 3 pots of coffee yet. That would be a > scalded dog

RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Zaleski, Matthew (M.E.)
Maybe he means it runs like a raped ape. > -Original Message- > From: Vic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2000 4:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux? > > > Sorry, what is a sc

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Joseph S. Gardner
Vic wrote: > > Sorry, what is a scaled dog? > Does it mean fast? > Sorry, hadn't had my 3 pots of coffee yet. That would be a scalded dog and yep that thar would be fast... Joe BTW, I love dogs - NO FLAMEs

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Vic
Sorry, what is a scaled dog? Does it mean fast? On Wed, 23 Aug 2000, you wrote: > Vic wrote: > > > > Just curious > > > > I use an AMD K6-3 400. > > > > I know this is an older slower chip, but > > it appears to run decently with 7.0-2. > > Is K6-3 a cousin to the Pentium or Pentium3? > > >

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Joseph S. Gardner
"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote: > > "Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: > > > > Vic wrote: > > > > > > Just curious > > > > > > I use an AMD K6-3 400. > > > > > > I know this is an older slower chip, but > > > it appears to run decently with 7.0-2. > > > Is K6-3 a cousin to the Pentium or Pentium3? > > > > > >

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.
"Joseph S. Gardner" wrote: > > Vic wrote: > > > > Just curious > > > > I use an AMD K6-3 400. > > > > I know this is an older slower chip, but > > it appears to run decently with 7.0-2. > > Is K6-3 a cousin to the Pentium or Pentium3? > > > > Is the Athlon a totally new architecture or > > more r

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-23 Thread Joseph S. Gardner
Vic wrote: > > Just curious > > I use an AMD K6-3 400. > > I know this is an older slower chip, but > it appears to run decently with 7.0-2. > Is K6-3 a cousin to the Pentium or Pentium3? > > Is the Athlon a totally new architecture or > more related to the K6-3? > The Athlon is a totally ne

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-22 Thread Vic
Just curious I use an AMD K6-3 400. I know this is an older slower chip, but it appears to run decently with 7.0-2. Is K6-3 a cousin to the Pentium or Pentium3? Is the Athlon a totally new architecture or more related to the K6-3? Sorry for the 1000 questions. On Sun, 20 Aug 2000, y

RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Paul Weber
I will be out of the office from August 22 through August. 27. I will have limited opportunity to respond to email until then. Thank you.

RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Eric Peters
27;s! literally! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, August 21, 2000 8:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux? Eric Peters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 08/21/2000 08:29:11 AM Ple

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
James Long wrote: > PIV -> 1.5 GHz + on a 400Mhz bus if the rumours are to be believed That definitely sounds like vapourware to me. Intel hasn't had anything significant to show for 18 months, so they are resorting to the same tactics they once accused their competitors of employing. It's

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread James Long
t 21, 2000 3:29 PM Subject: RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux? > And AMD will always have the edge. Considering everything out of Intel now > days is vaporware. They can not even get their 1Ghz to run stable w/ a > custom chipset and mainboard. > > -Origi

RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread lselinger
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RE: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Eric Peters
PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux? until the pentium IV comes out, athlon processors have the edge. - Original Message - From: "Robert Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 06:12 Subject: [

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread simon
until the pentium IV comes out, athlon processors have the edge. - Original Message - From: "Robert Fox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 06:12 Subject: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux? > I'm in the market for a new machine . .

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Joseph S. Gardner
Robert Fox wrote: > > I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously considering > the AMD chip . . . . > > Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each with > Linux, Windows, etc? > > Thanks in advance. . . . > > Robert Fox My vote goes to the Athlon.

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-21 Thread Jose Antonio Becerra Permuy
El dom, 20 ago 2000, escribiste: > I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously considering > the AMD chip . . . . > > Could anyone point me to references which show pros and cons of each with > Linux, Windows, etc? We have a cluster with Athlon @500 MHz and they are fas

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-20 Thread Byron Poland
I just got a AMD Duron 700 and installed Mandrake 7.1 with no major problems. it runs fine and seems to be very stable. I upgraded the kernel immediately to 2.2.16-9mdk, Only slight problem I had was with the onboard sound on the motherboard (epox socketA), but the alsa drivers took care of

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-20 Thread Stephen F. Bosch
Greg Stewart wrote: > > Don't know of any links to check, but I do know that Gateway's implemetation > of the Athlon chip can be flaky--even under Windows98. > > --Greg > > >>> Forwarded Message <<< > I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously considering > the AMD chip . .

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-20 Thread Jason Pierce
Hello Robert. An AMD K6-2 will have no problems. An AMD K7 Athlon Slot A(from 500mHz to 700, I think) there will be no problems. However, if you use an AMD K7 Athlon Thunderbird(newer athlons, 600mHz and up, I think, made for Socket A, but adaptable to Slot A) Will have some(easily correctabl

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-20 Thread Charles A Edwards
- Original Message - From: "Greg Stewart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2000 12:29 PM Subject: Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux? > Don't know of any links to check, but I do know that Gateway&#

Re: [expert] AMD K7 Athelon vs. Intel PIII and Linux?

2000-08-20 Thread Greg Stewart
Don't know of any links to check, but I do know that Gateway's implemetation of the Athlon chip can be flaky--even under Windows98. --Greg >>> Forwarded Message <<< I'm in the market for a new machine . . . . and I am seriously considering the AMD chip . . . . Could anyone point me to reference