[FairfieldLife] Re: Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > Or do you believe that there are abodes where literal 4-armed > > deities roam? > > If you don't clearly know all those abodes and all the multi- > armed

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread cardemaister
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Sahadeva=coccyx center=restraint (muladhara chakra) sahadeva (%{saha4-}) mfn. *with the gods*[emph. added] MBh. BhP. ; m. N. of a R2shi (with the patr. %{vArSAgira}) RV. i , 107 ; of a man (with the patr. %{zAJjaya

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Of course, I assume that intentional transcending is > actually a different physical state than spontaneous > transcending, and that the former is an illusion, > while the latter is based on a simple physical change

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > I¹ve heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the > > domes: the Amma group, the Waking Down group, etc. > > How about the just plain old sup

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You are alive my brother! Is that the new "awake"? :) Maybe its encroaching too much on "born again". Still, being "alive!" seems way cooler than merely being "awake". Of course being "alive AND awake" as

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > You are alive my brother! Is that the new "awake"? :) Maybe its encroaching too much on "born again". Still, being "alive!" seems way cooler than merely being "awake". Of course being "alive AND awake"

[FairfieldLife] Re: The 7chakras as found in the Mundaka Upanishad...

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "The flame has seven licking tongues: Kali, the dark one; the terrible; > the swift-as-thought; the crimson one; the smoky-colored; the sparkling > one; and Devi, she who takes all forms." > > "Whoever performs the sa

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's > important! > > > Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, > > > chas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > Yours in desperation, > > > > geezerfreak (who doesn't even have the guts > > to sign his own name...) > > OK Judy, time to come clean. The name's Bevan Morris. Perhaps you've > heard of me? I'd really appr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
You are alive my brother! High five on that. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" > wrote: > > > > I was playing a show today so I taped the tennis. I fast forwarded 4 > > hours of tape and on

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was playing a show today so I taped the tennis. I fast forwarded 4 > hours of tape and only got dudes playing! I totally got ripped on my > perv tennis needs today. When are the women playing? I know. I

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread geezerfreak
> > Yours in desperation, > > geezerfreak (who doesn't even have the guts > to sign his own name...) OK Judy, time to come clean. The name's Bevan Morris. Perhaps you've heard of me? I'd really appreciate you're curbing these assholic posts of yours. They annoy Maharishi no end. First time I've

[FairfieldLife] Sthapathyaved homes in FL, OH

2006-09-03 Thread bob_brigante
FL: http://www.mandalaclub.com/page/page/1505387.htm OH: http://www.cantonrep.com/index.php?ID=305770&Category=9 "When you walk into a kitchen, you should feel hunger. When you walk into a bedroom, you should feel sleepy. When you walk into a family room, you should feel relaxed and happy. It s

[FairfieldLife] Lynch's new film, maybe the quirkiest yet

2006-09-03 Thread bob_brigante
http://tinyurl.com/htcdk (registration required) selected text below: 'Inland Empire' -- Just Don't Expect to See the 91 (freeway) WEDNESDAY DEBUT: Those who have seen and been in the quirky flick aren't sure what to make of it. 10:00 PM PDT on Saturday, September 2, 2006 By HELENE BLATTER

[FairfieldLife] All the gods on one level: unified level

2006-09-03 Thread bob_brigante
"Christianity has a God, and Islam has a God, and Buddhism has a God, and this one has a God, and this one has a God – Unified Field has all the gods on one level: unified level. So, it is a scientific age that is going to eliminate the thorny edge of differences of all religions – not only all re

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread bob_brigante
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That someone can sell a technique to help people relax does not > automatically make them a saint. > > *** Every post you make only serves to further reduce your credibility. Anybody who has actually pra

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
I was playing a show today so I taped the tennis. I fast forwarded 4 hours of tape and only got dudes playing! I totally got ripped on my perv tennis needs today. When are the women playing? BTW Agassi's end of career game today was kinda moving. But if they ever have a 24 hour all women tenn

[FairfieldLife] The 7chakras as found in the Mundaka Upanishad...

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
> "The flame has seven licking tongues: Kali, the dark one; the terrible; > the swift-as-thought; the crimson one; the smoky-colored; the sparkling > one; and Devi, she who takes all forms." > > "Whoever performs the sacrifice correctly, when these seven are > *enlivened, he is led by them, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thanks for posting this, I would have missed it. I am so happy that > this perspective is in the mainstream media and on a group like this. > It speaks well for the open mindedness of both. I think at the end

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
Hi, folks, geezerfreak here. I know I swore, twice, that I wasn't going to read or respond to any more of Judy's posts, but I just can't seem to help myself. Why am I so obsessed with someone I've declared irrelevant? It doesn't make any sense, and the cognitive dissonance is driving me crazy. A

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread curtisdeltablues
Thanks for posting this, I would have missed it. I am so happy that this perspective is in the mainstream media and on a group like this. It speaks well for the open mindedness of both. I think at the end of the article they misjudged the number of people who have dropped the belief in any of th

[FairfieldLife] The 7chakras as found in the Mundaka Upanishad...

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
"The flame has seven licking tongues: Kali, the dark one; the terrible; the swift-as-thought; the crimson one; the smoky-colored; the sparkling one; and Devi, she who takes all forms." "Whoever performs the sacrifice correctly, when these seven are *enlivened, he is led by them, as the rays of

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > I've heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the domes: > > the Amma group, the Waking Down group, etc. _ > > Where do the moodmakers sit? :) > > S

[FairfieldLife] Re: Interpreting Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have just finished reading New Morning's post on Innocence (112511). Highly perceptive > regarding the nature of many of the exchanges here on FFL, and the underlying > psychology. Thanks LB. And its nice to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! > > Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, > > chastity, descrimination, etc. That is why we meditate, and the > > unfol

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > I've heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the domes: > > the Amma group, the Waking Down group, etc. _ > > Where do the moodmakers sit? :) > > S

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:18 PM, Rick Archer wrote: > I’ve heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the domes: > the Amma group, the Waking Down group, etc. _ Where do the moodmakers sit? :) Sal To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/gro

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? > >>> >> He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands > >>> >> of other spiritual subjects) bec

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or do you believe that there are abodes where literal 4-armed deities roam? If you don't clearly know all those abodes and all the multi-armed deities intimately, clearly, you missed some key advanced techniques. :) (j/k

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer wrote: > > > > I¹ve heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the domes: the Amma > > group, the Waking Down group, etc. > > > > How about the just plain old

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > TurquoiseB wrote: > > >>>Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he > >>> > >>> > >>DOES consider important? > >> > >> > >>>Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. > >>> > >>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > MMY calls these marmas and thinks there are about 108 of them > > > IIRC. Of these 3 are most important. > > 107 as I recall from working with an indian who trained for many years > in the tradition that ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)...' > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis > Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! So, are you objecting to the w

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I¹ve heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the domes: the Amma > group, the Waking Down group, etc. > How about the just plain old superior to everything else, TM/TM-Sidhis group? To subscribe, se

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wmurphy77 wrote: > > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > > > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: > >> > >> > >> > >>>In the Astral/Causal spine there are 7 centers (chakras)coexistent > >>> > >>> >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > snip> > > > What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? > > > > The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's importa

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > > > You're probably right about Barks, but that "translation" of the > > Arabic was the first time that the phrase made any sense to me. > > On the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > > > "anti-TM," it's not. > > > > > W

[FairfieldLife] Re: Smearing the Wilsons

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/2/06 9:24:13 P.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > Gregg is here in Fairfield right now. At least he was a week or so > ago. I > > presume he is on the course. He seemed nicer th

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand he gave me an > > > advanced t

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > You live to argue, pointlessly. > > And you live to deceive. Hi kids, Judy here again. Oh dear, I had the best intentions and wanted so much to r

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari Sattyanand > > he gave me an > > > advanced technique wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > > > > > --- sparaig wrote: > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > When I spent some time with Brahmachari

[FairfieldLife] Re: Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "purushaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- > > http://tinyurl.com/ebkvf Toward the end of the article, Caroline Porco, a planetary scientist, is quoted briefly. I was intrigued by the quote and went to the cited Web site to read the complete essay. Here

[FairfieldLife] Newsweek on Dawkins and Harris

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
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[FairfieldLife] Neo-Advaitin Francis Lucille

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
http://www.francislucille.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsu

[FairfieldLife] Marquis de Sade in agreement with the Neo-Advaitins on "morals".

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
--- --- > > http://www.wie.org/j22/stacey.asp?page=6 > > > Stacey Heartspring Encounters the Postmodern Craze of Neo-Advaita > > A Truly Imaginary Spiritual Satire > > 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 > > > ESTHER: And, anyway, in certain areas of the world a very different > value is plac

[FairfieldLife] Hagelin claims Super Radiance effect on stock market.

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
--- n [EMAIL PROTECTED], "purushaz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: MONDAY, AUGUST 21, 2006 Tune In, Turn On, Outperform? Edited by ROBIN GOLDWYN BLUMENTHAL THERE MAY NOT BE A MATHEMATICAL WAY to beat the market, but early returns of an intriguing new study show another way could be possible -- bett

[FairfieldLife] Hitler confronts the Neo-Advaitins

2006-09-03 Thread purushaz
--- --- A satirical expose of the Neo-Advaitins ( Wayne Liquorman, Esther > Veltheim, Tony Parsons, Gangaji, Francis Lucile, and Isaac Shapiro); > confronted by WIE editor Stacey. > > On page 7, Hitler gets to have a shot at the Neo-Advaitins. > http://www.wie.org/j22/stacey.asp?page=7 Stace

Re: [FairfieldLife] Invincibility America update

2006-09-03 Thread MDixon6569
In a message dated 9/3/06 4:10:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Bloomberg News: Gasoline Prices Decline on Slow Hurricane SeasonPump prices have declined 7 percent since early August. New York gasoline futures in August showed their biggest drop since October

[FairfieldLife] Interpreting Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread L B Shriver
I have just finished reading New Morning's post on Innocence (112511). Highly perceptive regarding the nature of many of the exchanges here on FFL, and the underlying psychology. I would like to add a few thoughts about interpreting the words of Guru Dev, which are now becoming available for

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev on 9/3/06 3:48 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Did you know that at the side toward Viv. island, at the > temple walls lived a great Avadhuta, Mayi Amma? She is on one of the > early videos of Ammachi who visited her. There are

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Peter
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> >> > >>> >> Haven't any of you guys considered the > obvious? > >>> >> He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands > >>> >> of other spiritual subjects) because he > doesn't > >>> >> kn

[FairfieldLife] Invincibility America update

2006-09-03 Thread feste37
Here's something that all people of good will on this list will enjoy. SEPTEMBER 2: INVINCIBILITY UPDATE PRODUCING THE EFFECT... September 2, 2006 Maharishi has repeatedly said that after 50 years of talking about his global peace program, the time for talking is over—that now is the time to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You live to argue, pointlessly. And you live to deceive. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > > wrote: > > > > > > Pathetic!

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And the temple is within a short walk of where three oceans meet. By > bathing there one is reported to wash away all sins. Needless to say, > I am "sinless". :) Great. I lost my hotelkey there, while swimming. There a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
You live to argue, pointlessly. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > Pathetic! > > Yes, I'd say "pathetic" is just the word to > describe you. > > Your deceptive snippage had nothin

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pathetic! Yes, I'd say "pathetic" is just the word to describe you. Your deceptive snippage had nothing to do with getting most of your response on the "FFL notice board." It was the text of your *post* that attem

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > In fact, as there is no way to prove, if a vision is true or not, it > would have been impossible to demonize MMY. As you say, everything is > possible, but to me the story MMY retells about the beginning of the > moveme

[FairfieldLife] Re: Language, the efficient and pragmatic use of

2006-09-03 Thread Robert Gimbel
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Isn't this forum open to all for public discussion? > > > > Yet you go out of your frame constantly. Saying: > > > > 'Fuck off and die' claiming this to be just a nice > > > > american idiom. > > > > > > Contrary to what Jud

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)? on 9/3/06 2:19 PM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> Haven't any of you guys considered the obvious? >> He doesn't speak about chakras (and thousands >> of other spiritual subjects) becaus

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
> > > > MMY calls these marmas and thinks there are about 108 of them > > IIRC. Of these 3 are most important. 107 as I recall from working with an indian who trained for many years in the tradition that maintains the knowledge of marmas in southern India. Danur Veda. And one hidden one. (thus 10

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread Bhairitu
TurquoiseB wrote: >>>Or perhaps because chakras are grafted on after the vedic stuff he >>> >>> >>DOES consider important? >> >> >>>Maharishi mentions marmas, and not chakras. >>> >>> >>In all fairness to MMY, I don't think he wanted to open a pandora's >>box >>with this more e

[FairfieldLife] Innocence

2006-09-03 Thread new . morning
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter wrote: > > > > It was thinking the mantra in a certain area of the > > body. It is one of the last advanced techniques. I can > > see why the term "chakra" was not used becaus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread Rick Archer
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM I’ve heard that people tend to sit in affinity groups in the domes: the Amma group, the Waking Down group, etc. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/

Re: [FairfieldLife] I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread Bhairitu
shempmcgurk wrote: >Bill Maher did a bit on his show this week about converting to Islam. >Unlike, say, Judaism which is a long, drawn out affair if you want to >convert to it -- you gott take classes, study the religion, etc. -- >according to Islam you just say two sentences and you're in! >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
I accept your apology unreservedly! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)...' > > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
Pathetic! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the > > FFL notice board. > > You snipped it to make it appear I had

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "geezerfreak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" > wrote: > > > > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)...' > > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis > > Club, Queen

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the > FFL notice board. You snipped it to make it appear I had misquoted you. If it had been an honest mistake, you wouldn't have tried to put over a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread geezerfreak
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)...' > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis > Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! > A message from Judy: Right

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
I snipped it where I did so most of my response would appear on the FFL notice board. You ascribe so many motives to my postings - come on what is YOUR agenda? AND have you EVER actually practised this meditation thing you claim to have done. Are you just one of those anti-TMers who wants to ma

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)...' > > I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's > Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! Nor did I say you noted that

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > > wrote: > > > > > > You're probably right about Barks, but that "translation" of the > > > Arab

[FairfieldLife] Connect the dots: YS III 1 - 4 (part 1)

2006-09-03 Thread cardemaister
YS III 1: desha-bandhash cittasya dhaaraNaa "Syntactic translation": desha-bandha of citta (is) dhaaraNaa Vocabulary: deza m. (1. %{diz}) point , region , spot , place , part , portion VS. AitBr. S3r. & Gr2S. Mn. &c. ; province , country , kingdom R. Hit. Katha1s. Vet. ; institute , ordinan

[FairfieldLife] Re: Guru Dev on how / when to meditate

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
'As Paul notes, MMY was speaking (to devout Hindus)...' I noted no such thing! The speech was made at the Young Man's Tennis Club, Queen's Gardens, in Delhi, not at a Hindu temple! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroup

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" > wrote: > > > > You're probably right about Barks, but that "translation" of the > > Arabic was the first time that the phrase made any sense to me. > > On the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-03 Thread Bhairitu
wmurphy77 wrote: >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > >>wmurphy77 wrote: >> >> >> >>>In the Astral/Causal spine there are 7 centers (chakras)coexistent >>> >>> >snip > > > >>Have you read the "Mantra Mahodadhi of Mahidhara"? >> >> >> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Language, the efficient and pragmatic use of

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > Maybe you need a period of time in New York to work > > out that fear of language thang, eh? That IS what > > we're talking about, right? You give

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're probably right about Barks, but that "translation" of the > Arabic was the first time that the phrase made any sense to me. On the other hand, Kabir was certainly a mystic, and according to Wikipedia his po

[FairfieldLife] Re: Language, the efficient and pragmatic use of

2006-09-03 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > Isn't this forum open to all for public discussion? > > > > Yet you go out of you

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > As I've been saying for some time--and LB Shriver > > also commented recently--some of the True NON-Believers > > here, Barry in particular, are utterly blin

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Sep 3, 2006, at 10:35 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >> >> On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: >> >>> So you are claiming that although MMY left India and taught >>> you and millions of other Westerners TM, a

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Electo-Magnetic Energy of Enlightenment'

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
You've got it Spock!!! And it's so basic to Yoga, really! -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Many Yogis have told me that the Sexual Chakra is the Second Chakra [Orange]. The first Chakra [Red] is the base, also called Mooladhara Chakra

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You're probably right about Barks, but that "translation" of the > Arabic was the first time that the phrase made any sense to me. > Obviously, it resonates with my experience and understanding. > Same with Bly's

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread Marek Reavis
You're probably right about Barks, but that "translation" of the Arabic was the first time that the phrase made any sense to me. Obviously, it resonates with my experience and understanding. Same with Bly's "translations" of Kabir; I've been told that they are very creative translations but they

[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Electo-Magnetic Energy of Enlightenment'

2006-09-03 Thread Jason Spock
      Many Yogis have told me that the Sexual Chakra is the Second Chakra [Orange].  The first Chakra [Red] is the base, also called Mooladhara Chakra in which the Kundalini serpent is Coiled and sleeping.       You don't energise the Sexual Chakras to awaken the kundalini.  Who told you this

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread t3rinity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > What's so ironic in this case is that your story > about MMY *wasn't even a challenge*, it w

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > In spiritual movements, the most common criterion > these days is that if the followers have been > trained to believe that the leader is almost by > definition unable to do anything wrong or make a > mistake, anyone wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Language, the efficient and pragmatic use of

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 3, 2006, at 2:34 AM, TurquoiseB wrote: > > >> You really do the culture here an injustice by your statement > >> above. No one I've ever known uses such a statement like this > >> innocuously. > > > > You liv

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread TurquoiseB
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Sep 2, 2006, at 7:31 PM, bob_brigante wrote: > > > So you are claiming that although MMY left India and taught > > you and millions of other Westerners TM, a practice which > > you say "brings the light," and wh

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip> > What the hell is this third eye and why do you think it is important? The third eye is the portal to infinity, that's why it's important! Unfolding of the chakras unfold powers of morality, self control, chas

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wmurphy77 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > > > "anti-TM," it's not. > > > > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: Where the mantras come from!...

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > wmurphy77 wrote: > > >In the Astral/Causal spine there are 7 centers (chakras)coexistent snip > Have you read the "Mantra Mahodadhi of Mahidhara"? > NO To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting back to TM

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I noticed in an interview with Steve Cintanni and his camera man that at one > point while the main person in charge of their capture was interviewing > them, that he, at one point, through up his hands and exclaimed "it would

[FairfieldLife] Re: I'm converting

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 9/3/06 1:26:49 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > > > > --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED] (mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com) > , Rick Archer wrote: > > > > on 9/3/06 12:09 AM,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Mason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Another piece of jigsaw puzzle, thanks. snip> So what happened when you looked in MMY's eyes that caused you to stop meditating? (P.S. Like your website BTW.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECT

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > Your constant mantra that you're not trying to > > convince anybody of anything, Barry, is a crock. > > It's an excuse you haul out to get yourself off > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: The death of Guru Dev

2006-09-03 Thread Paul Mason
Another piece of jigsaw puzzle, thanks. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "randymeltzer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The story I heard about the puja painting of Guru Dev (can't > remember from whom it was, but it was in the late 90's), was that it > was done by an artist in India. A TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Is opening the third eye (Ajna) necessary for enlightenment (CC)?

2006-09-03 Thread wmurphy77
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > Before anyone freaks out and considers this > > "anti-TM," it's not. > > Why, *of course* it's not anti-TM (or anti-MMY). > How could anybody think ac

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