--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@ wrote:
When I was by the river I was wanting to walk on it. Then Jesus Christ
Popped into my head and said, If you have the faith you can walk on the
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PODRJF1uomQfeature=relmfu
( ~ 3:00 -)
The same Joseph Smith who had a revelation from God telling him that polygamy
was ok. This after a few years of hosting and providing lodging for Morman
families with teenage girls in his home. His wife did not like the affairs he
had with these girls, but then god spoke to Joseph and told
wgm4u:
Too bad some folks have so little tolerance
for others opinions...
Marriage between a man and a woman has its origins
in the objective reality of reasonable human
nature. Our reason informs us that man and woman
are meant for each other physically and socially.
Only the union of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
The same Joseph Smith who had a revelation from God telling
him that polygamy was ok. This after a few years of hosting
and providing lodging for Morman families with teenage girls
in his home. His wife did not like the
authfriend:
Two HUGE mistakes in this post, even more ignorant
than Vaj's claim that the philosophy of Idealism
is a falsehood.
Not to mention that Mahayana Buddhism is based on
Idealism as propounded by Vasubhandu, the second
Buddha, author of 'Trimsika-vijnaptimatrata', the
Thirty
On May 14, 2012, at 8:26 AM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
authfriend:
Two HUGE mistakes in this post, even more ignorant
than Vaj's claim that the philosophy of Idealism
is a falsehood.
Not to mention that Mahayana Buddhism is based on
Idealism as propounded by Vasubhandu, the second
Buddha,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
The same Joseph Smith who had a revelation from God telling
him that polygamy was ok. This after a few years of hosting
and providing lodging for Morman
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
snip
authfriend:
Two HUGE mistakes in this post, even more ignorant
than Vaj's claim that the philosophy of Idealism
is a falsehood.
snip
The only thing is I never declared the philosophy of idealism
a falsehood! Sounds
Interesting thing for all the Fairfielders: In a channeling of pleiadians I
heard the difference between consciousness and existence is creativity kind
of goes against Maharishi, unless Maharishi was just going very broad.
If I remember correctly, chapter eight SBALwhen consciousness becomes
conscious.
Otherwise, here's some official poop:
http://www.transcendentalconsciousness.com/unified_field.htm
Funnily enough, this is one of the areas of movement dogma that I'm still
rather comfortable with.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shainm307 shainm307@... wrote:
Interesting thing for all the Fairfielders: In a channeling of pleiadians I
heard the difference between consciousness and existence is creativity kind
of goes against Maharishi, unless Maharishi was just going very
Why?
Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious.
I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an insider.
Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry Jarvis et alia
were in a whole 'nother class of folks -- they had access.
And
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got to do
anything but look up the noses looking down at me.
Consider yourself lucky. In some spiritual organizations
such as the Catholic Church, the choirboys and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@ wrote:
The same Joseph Smith who had a revelation from God telling
him that polygamy was
I can see how consciousness informs existence and at that level a further
refinement is found through creativity. It reminds me of the Perfect Man in
Sufism who manifests through his preparedness (if I understand that correctly).
Laura
(www.ellisnelson.com)
A Kiev art museum contains a curious icon from St. Catherine's Monastery on Mt.
Sinai in Israel. It shows two robed Christian saints. Between them is a
traditional Roman `pronubus' (a best man), overseeing a wedding. The pronubus
is Christ. The married couple are both men.
Is the icon
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ellis Nelson himalayaspencerellis@...
wrote:
I can see how consciousness informs existence and at that
level a further refinement is found through creativity.
It reminds me of the Perfect Man in Sufism who manifests
through his preparedness (if I
Don't you just hate those Mormons!
Susan:
The same Joseph Smith'
blog updates from
Buddha at the Gas Pump
http://gallery.mailchimp.com/e709a491029b04e745834d34d/images/star.gif
published 05/14/2012
122. Ellie Roozdar, 2nd Interview
http://batgap.us2.list-manage.com/track/click?u=62b7e50ba8598f35e2edf91d5id=3521f9d97ee=16e07f16fe
May 13, 2012
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
snip
authfriend:
Two HUGE mistakes in this post, even more ignorant
than Vaj's claim that the philosophy of Idealism
is a falsehood.
snip
The
On May 14, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
The only thing is I never declared the philosophy of idealism
a falsehood! Sounds like Judy's making up lies and strawmen
again...
Oops!
Yeah I know. You have to be pretty stupid to confuse Hegel with
Shankara
Laura,
Can't agree.
By logic, I conclude that existence is prior to consciousness -- necessitated
because of how I define the words. Existence, in this usage by me, means: The
Absolute.
When attempting to conceptualize The Absolute, the quality, pure
consciousness, can often be touted
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ellis Nelson himalayaspencerellis@
wrote:
I can see how consciousness informs existence and at that
level a further refinement is found through creativity.
It reminds me of the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@ wrote:
snip
authfriend:
Two HUGE mistakes in this post, even more ignorant
than
Oops!
authfriend:
It appears that Vaj doesn't know the basic premise of
Idealism, or that it's a philosophical position that
cannot be shown to be false. So he may not have been
actually *aware* that he had claimed Idealism was a
falsehood. If that's the case, it wasn't fair to say
he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 12:46 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
The only thing is I never declared the philosophy of idealism
a falsehood! Sounds like Judy's making up lies and strawmen
again...
Oops!
Yeah I know.
On May 14, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
In philosophy, idealism is the group of philosophies
which assert that reality, or reality as we can know it,
is fundamentally mental, mentally constructed, or otherwise
immaterial.
Interesting. Points out the difference between
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Either way, you can't deny Shankara's hate of scientific
materialism...IIRC he said it should be eradicated. And
eradicate it he did. The traditional Indian scientific
materialist schools went extinct due to Shankara. I
Have you ever met a human being who you feel
significantly affected the world around them
through nothing more than the mechanism of his
or her consciousness?
authfriend:
Is Barry mistakenly assuming that this is supposed
to be the case with the Perfect Man of Sufism?
Has Barry
On May 14, 2012, at 1:51 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
Either way, you can't deny Shankara's hate of scientific
materialism...IIRC he said it should be eradicated. And
eradicate it he did. The traditional Indian scientific
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 1:27 PM, Richard J. Williams wrote:
In philosophy, idealism is the group of philosophies
which assert that reality, or reality as we can know it,
is fundamentally mental, mentally constructed, or
Oops!
Vaj:
Yeah I know. You have to be pretty stupid to confuse
Hegel with Shankara
Oops!
There is a remarkable similarity between Shankara and Kant.
Everyone knows that 'Transcendental Idealism' is a doctrine
founded by German philosopher Immanuel Kant in the 18th
century. And,
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness. If there wasn't any
consciousness, there wouldn't be any existence or creativity. So, for any
universe to manifest, IMO there would have to be a consciousness to create
width, length, and height, at the very least. The dimension of time
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
On 05/14/2012 11:24 AM, John wrote:
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness. If there wasn't any
consciousness, there wouldn't be any existence or
Yet I tried to belong for 29 years. I never once got
to do anything but look up the noses looking down at
me.
turquoiseb:
Consider yourself lucky.
In contrast to Ed, Barry was a 'West Coast Coordinator'.
Now that's being an insider door mat!
So, according to Barry and Curtis
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness. If there wasn't any
consciousness, there wouldn't be any existence or creativity. So, for any
universe to manifest, IMO there would have to be a consciousness to create
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
Yeah, as long as they don't bump their head or stub their toe! :-)
Either way, you can't deny Shankara's hate of scientific
materialism...IIRC he said it should be eradicated. And
eradicate it he did. The traditional Indian scientific
materialist schools went extinct due to Shankara. I
believe that makes Shankara a Vedic Teabagger. ;-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness.
If there wasn't any consciousness, there wouldn't be any
existence or creativity. So, for any
NBC will probably ruin it. JJ Abrams and Jon Favreau involved:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwfCRAtkYEI
In philosophy, idealism is the group of philosophies
which assert that reality, or reality as we can know it,
is fundamentally mental, mentally constructed, or
otherwise immaterial.
Interesting. Points out the difference between consciousness-
based (MMY) and mentally-based
On 05/14/2012 11:44 AM, Vaj wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
Yeah, as long as they don't bump their head or stub their toe! :-)
Point is how you
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 05/14/2012 11:44 AM, Vaj wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
Yeah, as
On 05/14/2012 12:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@... wrote:
On 05/14/2012 11:44 AM, Vaj wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't
IMO, this is where physicists, like Stephen Hawking, are getting confused.
He's written in his latest book that there is no need of a Divine Being to
create this universe or any others outside this one. He fails to see that the
very act of having a three dimensional universe requires
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
Yeah, as long as they don't bump their head or stub
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
IMO, this is where physicists, like Stephen Hawking, are getting confused.
He's written in his latest book that there is no need of a Divine Being to
create this universe or any others outside this one. He fails to see that
Like any other group of people, most Mormons are just fine. It is the history
and some of the early goings on by a few people that seem odd. But if being
Mormon benefits a person, and does not harm to others, then good.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Richard J. Williams richard@...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:
On 05/14/2012 12:23 PM, salyavin808 wrote:
I wouldn't take Sri Sri Webster's definition of consciousness. After
all was he (or the staff) enlightened? Nah, they're going to take the
flatlander version.
You see I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness. If there wasn't
any consciousness, there wouldn't be any existence or creativity. So, for
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung no_reply@... wrote:
Why?
Because, from the start, the hierarchical structure was so obvious.
I wasn't an initiator for starters, so right there, I knew I wasn't an
insider.
Then when I got to be an initiator, by then, I knew that Jerry
Edg,
You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE,
everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it hurt you.
I think you are describing what goes on in most groups, especially religious or
spiritual, but also corporate, social. Some groups are more discrete and
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness. If there wasn't
any
Susan,
Whew, thanks, that actually helped a lot. And that's surprises me greatly.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Susan wayback71@... wrote:
Edg,
You really gave it all you had! I gather you moved to Ffld, did the MSAE,
everything. Sorry to hear what happened and how it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
snip
Without going through these arguments, you can use your own
logic and reason to answer what is needed to create a universe.
At the very least you
shaimn307 wrote:
'Interesting thing for all the Fairfielders: In a channeling of pleiadians I
heard the difference between consciousness and existence is creativity kind
of goes against Maharishi, unless Maharishi was just going very broad.'
Is there a difference between what we might
On May 14, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
On 05/14/2012 11:44 AM, Vaj wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
Yeah, as long as they don't bump
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
IMO, this is where physicists, like Stephen Hawking, are getting confused.
He's written in his latest book that there is no need of a Divine Being to
create this universe or any others outside this one. He fails to see that
the
On 05/14/2012 03:00 PM, Vaj wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 3:17 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
On 05/14/2012 11:44 AM, Vaj wrote:
On May 14, 2012, at 2:32 PM, Bhairitu wrote:
How 'bout everything is consciousness? In fact it would be pretty
hard to prove that everything isn't consciousness. ;-)
Yeah, as
Bhairitu
So, are you saying The Absolute can be experienced by an enlightened person?
Seems to me it cannot be, but instead the body/mind system constructs a
nearest equivalent as a metaphor.
Edg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu
These things are better experienced than
What do you think the silence is that so many yogi have spoken of?
The silence that permeates activity or over which activity is
projected. The silence that is still and absolute. Be careful about
getting caught up in intellectual concepts. They will delude you.
Either that or meditation
Thx, on
(a) 3-d universe requires consciousness to support it.
First, why 3-d, and not 23-d or 1-d. Non sequitur anyway. Why is
consciousness required? Because you say so?
(b) on your statement, without consciousness, there is nothing. By nothing, I
assume you mean the null set. But
http://tinyurl.com/7fw2fd2
The Templeton prize is awarded to the Dalai Lama for encouraging scientific
research and harmony among religions, and honours those who 'affirm life's
spiritual dimension' .
http://tinyurl.com/7rwohay
The Dalai Lama has said that last summer's riots were the fault of
Hey Edg, you know I love you like a brother, but having just seen The
Avengers, (sort of dumb I thought. well a little better than John
Carter, but not by much), do you feel any affinity to the Incredible
Hulk? I mean, really, I do see some resemblance. I think you may be
the smartest person
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
IMO, this is where physicists, like Stephen Hawking, are getting confused.
He's written in his latest book that there is no need of a Divine Being
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The Tibetan spiritual leader, who is in London today to collect the £1.1
million Templeton Prize at St Paul's Cathedral, told The Sunday Telegraph in an
interview that China had trained Tibetan women to assassinate him while
pretending to seek his blessings.
We received some sort of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
IMO, this is where physicists, like Stephen Hawking, are getting confused.
He's written in his latest book that there is no need of a Divine
Edg just likes feeling sorry for himself and playing the victim. No one ever
forced him to be in the TM movement or stay in it.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
Hey Edg, you know I love you like a brother, but having just seen The
Avengers, (sort
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:
I've been learning how to create bindings from my favorite languages,
Squeak and Pharo Smalltalk. I just did a benchmark to time the difference
between the built-in math, and a math library called gmplib (GNU
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@... wrote:
Xeno,
The reason why there is a Divine Being is because IMO if you died or I died
it is highly probable that the universe will continue to exist. If all
humans disappeared from this solar system, it is still hightly probable
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius
anartaxius@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
Xeno,
The reason why there is a Divine Being is because IMO if you died or I died
it is highly probable that the universe will continue to
Matt Whitehead, a surfer and a traveler first, and a plumber when funds are
required to continue to travel and surf, gives some travel advice he's
gleaned along his journey.
Worthwhile to watch (for the waves alone) and value in listening to what he
believes he's learned.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
According to MMY, everything is based in consciousness.
If there wasn't any
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
Xeno,
The reason why there is a Divine Being is because IMO if you
Whether it benefits a person or not, is not the issue...
The issue seems to be that they portray themselves as 'Christian' when they are
not.
And when they are attempting to gain some political power over us all, then I
would tend to pay attention to the details...as the devil is in the
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2012/may/14/ron-paul-ends-his-hunt-votes/
See, no regrets. No one seems to have any real regrets, not even
Curtiswellexcept perhaps Barry, but only when he's feeling an angry
opinion coming on.
From: Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, May 14,
[Foster the People] w/Mark Foster 1984 [Pumped up Kicks] recorded live, July,
2011
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=siIep9LHtNM
Ya see, I thought so. It's important to get to the beach. I decided on my
drive up today that I am going to go spend 2 weeks at the beach in June.
Backpack in a bit and just be near the ocean. It is the best place I've found
to be with the Universe, after all. After all, life is short. I
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, salyavin808 fintlewoodlewix@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
snip
Without going through these arguments, you can use your own
logic and reason
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