[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh you guys are gonna love this one: I did actually. Good to see Marshy talking crap again and it reminded me how hideous all the True Believers are with their fake, treacly voices and sycophantic laughter. Lynch really

[FairfieldLife] Pure View Apple??

2014-05-22 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Seems to me like any day soon Apple's devices might get Nokia's supreme Pure View phone camera technology, mainly developed here in my home town, Tampere Finland!

[FairfieldLife] Islam creates monsters??

2014-05-22 Thread cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Islam Creates Monsters Says Psychologist http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/islam-creates-monsters-says-psychologist/ http://guardianlv.com/2014/05/islam-creates-monsters-says-psychologist/ Islam Creates Monsters Says Psychologist

Re: [FairfieldLife] Pure View Apple??

2014-05-22 Thread Share Long sharelon...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Card, I don't completely understand why the laughing devil but yay for Nokia. On Thursday, May 22, 2014 1:55 AM, cardemais...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com wrote:   Seems to me like any day soon Apple's devices might get Nokia's supreme Pure View phone camera

[FairfieldLife] A rare gift for your Thursday

2014-05-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Today I invoked my pirate OCD and ritually searched for a very rare film...yet again, expecting not to find it...yet again. Imagine my surprise to stumble upon a version on YouTube. It's scratchy and grainy and 'way side-letterboxed because it was obviously ripped from an old, played-too-often

[FairfieldLife] Majorca Journal worth a read

2014-05-22 Thread laughinggull108
Some time back, Rick posted a link to a blog or website where a pdf file entitled Majorca Journal by Andrew MacKenzie was available for reading and/or download. What a trip down memory lane this was. Andy's writing seems to capture the essence of this early initiator course, and there's a bonus

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yes, I agree - I have become aware, through all of this, of a past life, pointing in this direction - prior meditation experience, and life as a monk. As developed as my meditation was then, the whole 'monk' thing was premature, to say the least - From what little I recall, I knew my father

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I rarely reply to your posts since most of them are so inane, but in case you missed it I was not posting a list of athletes who bowed to guru devs pic after puja - I was posting a few long lived athletes and made the comment that none of them had done TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That's neat Jim. It is always interesting when one can connect the dots. And, from what you have described about growing up in the Asian part of the world, it sure seems to make sense. Thanks for sharing that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Yes, I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Majorca Journal worth a read

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I read it. Its mildly interesting. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:00 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Majorca Journal worth a read   Some time back, Rick posted a link to a blog

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The guy at 27.00 is Mark Landau, one of Marshy's former skin boys. Rick interviewed him some time back. I talked with him via internet and on the phone after I saw the BATGAP interview and he answered my questions. A nice guy, and lucky to have come out of TM addiction. 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure - My only problem has been, trying to clean up all the loose ends, redefine the goal, and get there, in just one life-time - efficiency to the max, and, boy, has it been max. As I remarked to a friend recently, that is why I am now living in a trailer park, ten miles from Paradise -

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
TM addiction - yeah, good way to put that syndrome. Kinda like when a guy likes a girl and he keeps doing everything he can to please her, except being himself. That is what chasing enlightenment is like. It is only when everything is cast aside, especially the most precious assumptions and

[FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
As a followup to the question of why so many TMers believe so thoroughly that enlightenment is not only special, it's the most special thing one can possibly aspire to in life, consider this scenario: You've just arrived -- tired and jetlagged after a long flight to Europe -- and have landed

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Really, who couldn't like Mark. Although he comes across now as sort a tragic figure. My bid of $1,000.00* still stands for MMY's sandals. But I think he was wanting something along the lines of 40k. *Actually, I'm kinda pressed for funds. I may have to withdraw my bid. (-:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Majorca Journal worth a read

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Talk about mildly interesting, or less than, how about the TM Cult Video you posted. Do you think she could have even gotten his name right! ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I read it. Its mildly interesting. From: laughinggull108 no_re...@yahoogroups.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 2:29 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker   As a followup to the question of why so many

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Part of the reason the seeker gets sucked in, in this fantasy scenario of yours, is lack of prior experience. Most of those who go hook, line and sinker into such a situation, as you have, at least twice, do so, out of naivete, an uncritical acceptance of what is being offered, without the

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Kinda rushing here. But, I've thought about this. People ask me, when I tell them that I spent time in Europe, about whether I saw the sights, and I have to explain somewhat awkwardly, that I did not, at least for the most part. But the funny thing is, that we weren't completely isolated,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
shu-bop, shu-bop... ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Really, who couldn't like Mark. Although he comes across now as sort a tragic figure. My bid of $1,000.00* still stands for MMY's sandals. But I think he was wanting something along the lines of 40k.

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
La Plagna, France, Less so. New Delhi, India, More so ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Kinda rushing here. But, I've thought about this. People ask me, when I tell them that I spent time in Europe, about whether I saw the sights, and I have to explain

[FairfieldLife] The Blindered Leading The Blindered

2014-05-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Have you ever seen a horse wearing blinders? They're an odd apparatus that fits over the horse's head and uses opaque flaps to restrict his or her vision to a narrow slice seen straight ahead. You'd have to ask Ann or Buck for details, because they know more about horses than I do, but they

Re: [FairfieldLife] Timeless Journey (Traveling with Maharishi)

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/21/2014 3:30 AM, nablusoss1008 wrote: This is the seat of the Shankaracharya of Jyothir Math high in the Himalayas in India, where Maharishi studied with his teacher, Guru Dev, from 1940 to 1953 /This is the seat of the Shankaracharya of Jyothir Math high in the Himalayas in India,

[FairfieldLife] Chrome

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
It took me a while to get here, but if your next laptop isn’t running Chrome OS, I fear you might have made a mistake. 'A Google Chromebook Should Be Your Next Laptop And Here's Why' http://tinyurl.com/pkanovt --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I watched most of this and found the interview with Landau and Bourke the most interesting. This is the first I have seen her although I knew she had written a book about her affair with MMY. I found her and Mark very non-reactive, acknowledging both sides of things but apparently holding no

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Blindered Leading The Blindered

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 8:24 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Ah, spiritual traditions. Keeping students focused on The Things That Matter. Or at least the ones that their teachers think matter. Barry is such an incredible spiritual teacher - the depth and range of his

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
In discussions with my friend Bill, who is the 40 year plus TM'er who recently quit, he has had doubts about people like Mark and Judith Borque saying that they are somewhat flakey. I pointed out to him that long term TM often, not always but often LEADS to flakeyness, especially those who

Re: [FairfieldLife] Majorca Journal worth a read

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Really! She is apparently a Born Again Christian who goes after any group that she feels takes people away from Christianity. I don't agree w her POV, but I liked some of the stuff in the video - particularly the first few minutes - I think it was a little more expanded than the footage that

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : La Plagna, France, Less so. New Delhi, India, More so ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, steve.sundur@... wrote : Kinda rushing here. But, I've thought about this. People ask me, when I tell them that I spent time in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
how did you come to do TM and what kinds of questions did you ask if any before starting? From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 8:39 AM Subject:

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : In discussions with my friend Bill, who is the 40 year plus TM'er who recently quit, he has had doubts about people like Mark and Judith Borque saying that they are somewhat flakey. I pointed out to him that long term TM often,

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Blindered Leading The Blindered

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : Have you ever seen a horse wearing blinders? They're an odd apparatus that fits over the horse's head and uses opaque flaps to restrict his or her vision to a narrow slice seen straight ahead. You'd have to ask Ann or Buck for

[FairfieldLife] The title says it all

2014-05-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The House Science Committee Has Held More Hearings on Aliens Than on Climate Change The House Science Committee Has Held More Hearings on... Congress is fascinated by the search for intelligent life on other planets. They've apparently given up the search at home. View on

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Vedic Vigilantes

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 12:52 AM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: Prairie Dogs can protect their own reputation. Nobody wants to talk about the personal attacks made by the forum informants against the /willytex/. They are probably embarrassed so they just try to ignore it. I mean, who in

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You know, I never thought about Robin taping his seminars - thanks for sharing that. As to Mark, when I spoke with him on the phone he made it clear that he loved M totally and he still does. Yet at the same time he had no illusions as to what an ass the old man could be. He was real plain in

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
My buddy Bill made the analogy that the TM specialness deal is like being a teenager who smokes a joint and then goes walking the mall congratulating yourself that you have a secret and an edge on all the losers that are there just wasting their time being normal

[FairfieldLife] Re: The Blindered Leading The Blindered

2014-05-22 Thread authfri...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
(How to break it to him?) Er, um, Barry, a horse only wears blinders while it's working. When it isn't working, they take the blinders, you know, off. Plus which...oh, sheesh, never mind. The incoherence of this sentence is worse than Buck's Charge of the Light Brigade notion. just as

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 1:38 AM, salyavin808 wrote: ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Oh you guys are gonna love this one: I did actually. Good to see Marshy talking crap again and it reminded me how hideous all the True Believers are with their fake, treacly voices and

Re: [FairfieldLife] A rare gift for your Thursday

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 6:41 AM, TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Today I invoked my pirate OCD... Addressing the important issues - internet piracy. Go figure. --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 7:06 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I rarely reply to your posts since most of them are so inane, You failed to mention that there are a number of famous athletes who have practiced TM. You failed to inform, because of your your bias. You suck

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
Where's the hatred in that? I never liked the fake I'm so blissed voices. Obvious mood-making and ironically what they were told not to do by the guy sitting in front of them. The sycophants are pathetic too Dick. Were you one, is that why this pushes your buttons? ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 8:50 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But there does seem to be this strange phenomena of the being-around-the-teacher-too-much thing. It has not been established that MJ has been around ANY teachers at all. Apparently he never even met MMY. Go figure. ---

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 8:34 AM, awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: But even if the man (MMY) did not practice what he preached in terms of presenting himself as a monk I am not sure how that takes away from the technique of TM. Sometimes things work well even if the messenger is flawed.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Richie is not forgiving us for forgetting to wear our hats shaped like a Buddhist stupa - we all know thanks to WillyTex that ALL things of value INCLUDING TM came out of some sort of Buddhist stupa. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It has also not been established why you are not living in a facility for the deranged. I must have been around some TM teachers otherwise I could never have gotten my TM mantra - and as to meeting the Old Fraud, if you mean did I ever shake hands with him, no. I was in a big ass room with

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Yep, and it cuts both ways, too, as Barry continues to demonstrate - any group can be denigrated, so that one feels elevated, in comparison. It is a fine line. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : My buddy Bill made the analogy that the TM specialness deal is like

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I had an inkling of this transcendent thing, back in high-school. My friends were trying visualization meditation, drugs, Buddhist, Taoist, Christian religious stuff, guided meditation, tai-chi, nutritional therapies, and everyone was reading Alan Watts' Be Here Now, and Stuart Brand's The

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Followed by a similar experience to your current one. Its called, if you see the Buddha on the road, kill him. An absolute must, for anyone serious about all of this. And sometimes, he comes down the road more than once. :-) PS Due to the easily confused on here, I should add this has

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I just had to laugh! When I was that age and at that same time in the 70's all my friends, far from trying out all the various tai chi, meditation etc stuff were trying to work it out if Michelob would mess them up if they switched from Pabst Blue Ribbon. Difference between Cali and SC I guess.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thank you for sharing all this. I appreciate it. From: fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh God, Boone's Farm - Drank a fair amount of that when I was in DC. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : I just had to laugh! When I was that age and at that same time in the 70's all my friends, far from trying out all the various tai chi, meditation etc stuff were

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure - and remember, kill him. lol :-) ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mjackson74@... wrote : Thank you for sharing all this. I appreciate it. From: fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22,

[FairfieldLife] New crop circle!

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
But what does it mean?

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Hulu+ has the documentary Scientology The Ex-Files which I watched last night. It includes some archival interview footage with L. Ron Hubbard from the 1960s. It's quite interesting. The made members of the org work for 20 to 35 cents an hour and long work weeks. There is a squished copy of

[FairfieldLife] Re: Islam creates monsters??

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Sounds pretty biased to me. Christianity creates monsters too, if you work with criminals who were indoctrinated in specific Christian sects and later arrested for violent/criminal acts done in the name of their religion. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister@... wrote

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I wonder how many guys he took to MMY's room? How many went in one-at-a-time, or in pairs, or in small groups? It's easy to innuendo anything you want by leaving out little details. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, no_re...@yahoogroups.com wrote : ---In

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Without statistics about how many professional athletes there, how many learned TM when they were kids vs after they became adults vs never learned at all, etc, you can't conclude anything at all about TM and athletes, any more than you can about TM and deep sea divers. What you CAN do is

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
I'm glad you're being philosophical about it Lawson old chap. May I ask what elective surgery means? I'm hoping it means they'll do it next week, free of charge but I fear there might be a catch to that. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I dont' count myself

Re: [FairfieldLife] Timeless Journey (Traveling with Maharishi)

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
The Jyotirmath ashram was rebuilt by Gurudev around 1940. During the time that the Shankaracharyas named in the will were recognized as Shankaracharyua by the courts, the ashram was occupied by the Shankaracharyas named in the will, while the committee-appointed Shankaracharya lived down the

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
One thing to note is that, regardless of teh sexual activities MMY may or may not have engaged in, he stopped calling himself Brahmachari when he accepted people calling him Maharishi. In the late 60's, in a radio interview in the UK, he noted that had he known that he could become

Re: [FairfieldLife] TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Well, the people who participate in the Invincible America Course only get paid $700 per month for working 8 hours a day, 7 days a week, so its: 8 * 30 = $700/240 = $2.92/hour. Slave wages. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, noozguru@... wrote : Hulu+ has the documentary

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
So basically, you can pick a few quotes from him about anything you like to make it seem he was whatever you want him to be. This is why what other people say is important, if you care about what he was really like. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote :

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Pretty much by the theory of what rounding is supposed to do, it will lead to flakiness. If it doesn't, than you probably don't need to round much, though of course, you might still benefit from it. See the before/after 2-3 years of Invincible America portion of the EEG during TM video

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
For me, that line has more than one valid perspective. Most people see it as eschewing authority. I also see it as eschewing technique. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Followed by a similar experience to your current one. Its called,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
I'm not being philosophical about it. One part of me was marveling at how unconcerned I was, even when I had some concern it might be a sign of advanced cancer. I made sure that someone had witnessed me saying that my once-and-future son's mom was heir, beneficiary of my estate AND trustee,

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
But I don't really care that much these days. He's dead. He said interesting things and did interesting things and I'm happy I learned TM and the TM-SIdhis and sorry I didn't go on more residence courses, or even take advantage of teh INvincible America course when it was essentially free.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Sure - clean slate and then see what comes back naturally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : For me, that line has more than one valid perspective. Most people see it as eschewing authority. I also see it as eschewing technique. L ---In

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : But I don't really care that much these days. He's dead. He said interesting things and did interesting things and I'm happy I learned TM and the TM-SIdhis and sorry I didn't go on more residence courses, or even take advantage of

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : I'm not being philosophical about it. One part of me was marveling at how unconcerned I was, even when I had some concern it might be a sign of advanced cancer. Well, you're a trooper at any rate! I made sure that someone

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I thought I was clever until then, I'm excruciatingly embarrassed about it now. So you've got to hand it to him as far as weaving a spell goes. This is

[FairfieldLife] Ghost in the Machine

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Nerd report: We just pinged our hosted server and then uploaded a file using FTP. The FTP program is called Cute FTP, a program written by some nerds here in San Antonio. We used to use the free WS_FTP from Ipswitch. We are using ethernet for local data transfer to the home server and the NAS.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Timeless Journey (Traveling with Maharishi)

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 2:48 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: I'm not sure if that has changed since the latest court-ruling, where the successor to that line was declared to not be allowed to call himself Shankaracharya of Jyotirmath. Apparently the Jyotirmath property, as well as the

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I thought I was clever until then, I'm excruciatingly embarrassed about it now. So

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Foer me, TM IS a clean slate. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : Sure - clean slate and then see what comes back naturally. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : For me, that line has more than one valid perspective. Most

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
And I still practice all this stuff as regularly as I can manage. Go figure. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: Marshy made me believe I could fly by sitting cross legged and hopping up and down holding my feet. I

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife]
Like The Blues Brothers, MMY was on a mission from God. YMMV as to whether or not you agree with him as to the source, but anyone who thinks that he didn't have some sense of divine inspiration and mission about what he was doing has taken denial in another direction, I think. L

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread s3raph...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Re : Watching old tapes of all of us around Robin during seminars is downright excruciating. : Can you post the clips on YouTube for the rest of us to enjoy?

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
If you are ever going to the county fair with your friends, it is best to NOT eat a bowl of Cocoa Krispies with a good deal of milk before piling into a car and drinking Boone's Farm. If you do, it is likely that the so called wine, Cocoa Krispies and milk will find its way up out-a your

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: To Curtis, on witnessing

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Not likely. Here in the US hernia surgery is a $20,000 affair, and that doesn't include the surgeon's fee or the anesthesiologists fee either. From: salyavin808 no_re...@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2014 3:43 PM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 2:19 PM, lengli...@cox.net [FairfieldLife] wrote: It's easy to innuendo anything you want by leaving out little details. The one detail that is probably NOT in dispute is that MJ was never inside MMY's bedroom, or any where near MMY, ever, at any time and nowhere. That's a fact

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
It is interesting Barry that your interest in the TMO and it's founder is so undiminished after all these years. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb@... wrote : From: TurquoiseBee turquoiseb@... [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To:

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 10:37 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: I just had to laugh! When I was that age and at that same time in the 70's all my friends, far from trying out all the various tai chi, meditation etc stuff were trying to work it out if Michelob would mess them

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I can't top that, though I do recall, vividly, traveling convoy-style, all drunk an' shit, and a friend of mine, Krissy, pops her head out the passenger side window, of the front car, and begins puking *everywhere*, like five times her body weight, big gushing sprays of puke, all lit up like

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 10:02 AM, fleetwood_macnche...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep, and it cuts both ways, too, as Barry continues to demonstrate - any group can be denigrated, so that one feels elevated Now this is really funny - Barry denigrates a group of mere bum-bouncers, so that he can

[FairfieldLife] Post Count Fri 23-May-14 00:15:04 UTC

2014-05-22 Thread FFL PostCount ffl.postco...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
Fairfield Life Post Counter === Start Date (UTC): 05/17/14 00:00:00 End Date (UTC): 05/24/14 00:00:00 736 messages as of (UTC) 05/23/14 00:11:02 96 'Richard J. Williams' punditster 77 fleetwood_macncheese 65 awoelflebater 63 Share Long sharelong60 48 authfriend 48

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 9:50 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: It has also not been established why you are not living in a facility for the deranged. I must have been around some TM teachers otherwise I could never have gotten my TM mantra - and as to meeting the Old

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 9:47 AM, Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote: Richie is not forgiving us for forgetting to wear our hats shaped like a Buddhist stupa - we all know thanks to WillyTex that ALL things of value INCLUDING TM came out of some sort of Buddhist stupa. It's not

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread 'Richard J. Williams' pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
On 5/22/2014 9:32 AM, salyavin808 wrote: The sycophants are pathetic too Dick. Were you one, is that why this pushes your buttons? It's just kind of depressing reading all you guys sordid past history from 40 years ago and all the hard times you've had since then. He's dead - get over it.

[FairfieldLife] One Thing Leads To Another

2014-05-22 Thread Pundit Sir pundits...@gmail.com [FairfieldLife]
The Fixx - 12 inch vinyl record, extended mix http://youtu.be/wu9DKYQrGBI

[FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, s3raphita@... wrote : Re : Watching old tapes of all of us around Robin during seminars is downright excruciating. : Can you post the clips on YouTube for the rest of us to enjoy? I think I'd better not.

[FairfieldLife] Fred Travis new research on EEG and Vedic rectiation

2014-05-22 Thread srijau
now in the global family chat archives May 19th, amazing new research into the Sidhis, TM , EEG and Vedic recitation Maharishi Channel Archives http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/gfc2-2014.html http://www.maharishichannel.in/archives/gfc2-2014.html Maharishi Channel Archives

[FairfieldLife] IS TM a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread srijau
Is TM a Cult? - David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D. http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm Is TM a Cult? - David W. Orme-Johnson, Ph.D. http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/IndividualEffects/IsTMaCult/index.cfm Individual Effects Issue: Is the Transcendental

Re: [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-22 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
The mystic separatists who were the antecedence of Amana in America were inspirationist by spirituality type in practice and as a formed communal spiritual group employing also daily quietism in substantial silent transcendental meditative practice. One can find illumined people in satsanga

[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Graphing the Illumined Batgap interviewees by types

2014-05-22 Thread dhamiltony...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Another example of the relative blending of spiritual typology is George Fox, spiritual teacher promulgating quietism who early on was also a pietist in the pietistic sense of doing or working at energetic subtle system healing but then stopped doing that work publicly because it distracted

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, fleetwood_macncheese@... wrote : I can't top that, though I do recall, vividly, traveling convoy-style, all drunk an' shit, and a friend of mine, Krissy, pops her head out the passenger side window, of the front car, and begins puking *everywhere*, like

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread awoelfleba...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 10:02 AM, fleetwood_macncheese@... mailto:fleetwood_macncheese@... [FairfieldLife] wrote: Yep, and it cuts both ways, too, as Barry continues to demonstrate - any group can be denigrated, so that one feels elevated

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread Michael Jackson mjackso...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I never combined tequila and beer - I only chased tequila with a joint. And for some strange reason there was a wine, if you can call it that, Blue Nun was the brand that was as nasty as could be, unless one had smoked a doobie, in which case it was like nectar.

Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker

2014-05-22 Thread TurquoiseBee turquoi...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
From: steve.sun...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, May 23, 2014 2:04 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] The Manchurian Spiritual Seeker   It is interesting Barry that your interest in the TMO and it's founder is so

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: TM is a Cult?

2014-05-22 Thread salyavin808
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, LEnglish5@... wrote : And I still practice all this stuff as regularly as I can manage. Practise makes perfect, maybe Go figure. L ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, punditster@... wrote : On 5/22/2014 4:03 PM, salyavin808 wrote: