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Marek,
That's all very nice as both an esoteric explanation and
justification as to why MMY
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Amma goes days at a time - some say weeks - without sleeping. And it's
verifiable because she's in full public view, giving darshan round the
clock.
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I don't believe in this. Maybe three or four days one can do it,
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on 5/25/05 6:28 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sincerely yours,
Slartbardfast
I hope you've created a signature file for the above so you don't
have to
type it every time.
How?
Sincerly
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Sincerely yours,
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I hope you've created a signature file for the above so you don't
have to
type it every time.
ok
Sincerely yours,
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night. I feel much better in daily activities the next day.
My son when he was in the army in the scout troops, spent a lot of
time in the forest.
They had often three days battle exercises, during which they were
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/05 8:24 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
COMMENT
Right from the beginning days of the movement, it
was fascinating to watch how some (not by any means
ALL of them) of the governors
in charge
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, George DeForest
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so, he was able to maintain an active sex life
AND work 18 hours days?
why not...it only takes 5 minutes a day, LOL!
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I think Rick is right about this. MMY was very specific and detailed
in small matters. We used to call him when we had week-end-courses,
to tell about the course. It seems that MMY wanted to have a grip of
everything in the countries administration of the centres and the
lives of the
on 5/25/05 12:10 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, he was able to maintain an active sex life AND work 18 hours days?
Apparently so. Did you ever hang around him? Extraordinary energy and
creativity. Fulfilled most of the claims of the introductory lecture.
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on 5/25/05 1:19 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, Rick, this anecdote of yours proves exactly what the
anonymous poster was saying. Can you imagine an executive of a
business wanting some idiot running to him for approval of petty
stuff like photocopying fees? The TMO has
A Group can't sanely expand where every decision has to be run by # 1.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/25/05 1:19 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Actually, Rick, this anecdote of yours proves exactly what the
anonymous poster was
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on 5/24/05 8:24 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
COMMENT
Right from the beginning days of the movement, it
was fascinating
on 5/25/05 9:40 AM, uns_tressor at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Delegation, and having the confidence in one's immediate
staff is not only important but essential. Does MMY delegate?
Can he delegate?
He delegates to a chosen few, and they to a chosen few, etc. But every
little thing is checked
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/05 8:24 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
COMMENT
Right from the beginning days of the movement, it
was fascinating to watch how some (not by any means
ALL of them) of the governors
in charge
on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What struck me was how MMY got caught up in something so
insignificant and mundane as a group photo and the way it was
supposed to be framed and the hours spent on it. I just couldn't
understand it. If, as the Movement and MMY
Rick Archer wrote:
on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What struck me was how MMY got caught up in something so
insignificant and mundane as a group photo and the way it was
supposed to be framed and the hours spent on it. I just couldn't
understand it. If,
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on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at
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What struck me was how MMY got caught up in
something so
insignificant and mundane as a group photo and
the way it was
supposed to be framed and the hours spent
-I think Maharishi just has the heart of a child;
which like someone said,
is required to,
enter the kingdom of heaven
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on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What struck me was how MMY
Lately this list seemsmore obsessed than ever at finding that
tiny little speck of dust on theotherwise perfectly white silk cloth and
making it into Mt. Everest. Amazing.-I find it more to be like
tracing ones finger in water, looking for anything at all that might remain.
Water
--- shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
snip
On my 6-month course in '77 in St. Moritz, we took
the usual course
photo which as a matter of course was sent on to
International.
One of the course participants was one Michael
Yankaus. I am not
sure whether he did this for a living
Lately this list seems more obsessed than ever at finding that tiny
little speck of dust on the otherwise perfectly white silk cloth and
making it into Mt. Everest. Amazing.
You are witnessing dharma in action.
The TM Organization has from time to time instituted a 'rose colored
glasses'
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on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What struck me was how MMY got caught up in something so
insignificant and mundane as a group photo and the way it was
supposed to be
I remember hearing, probably in a dome meeting, that
Maharishi once used a magnifying glass to closely
examine every person in a group photo. The photo was
from one of the big courses, like Utopia or Heaven on
Earth.
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on 5/25/05 12:19 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Don slow down. You hear this sort of stuff as
criticism. It's not, for the most part. We are trying
to understand and amazing phenomena called MMY.
Agreed. It was not meant as criticism at all. Just another observation on
one of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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So I agree it is amazing.
If you watch over time, this board maintains a pretty even
equilibrium between the 'bashers' and the 'gushers'.
Jai Guru Dev
The 'bashers' used to be 'gushers' who repressed their
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[snip]
Maharishi himself would say that he always needed a new toy to play
with.
Really? He actually acknowledged (not in the exact wording of a Peter
Druker) his weakness for micro-managing?
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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-I think Maharishi just has the heart of a child;
which like someone said,
is required to,
enter the kingdom of heaven
Unfortunately, TM is billed as having 200% of life: not only the
Kingdom of Heaven but
The 'bashers' used to be 'gushers' who repressed their
criticalfaculties. The TMO has needed criticism for a long time. Don't
forgetthat the original World Plan envisioned local or reginal
autonomy,even in creating teachers. I agree with you
that despite the level of former
on 5/25/05 1:52 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Maharishi himself would say that he always needed a new toy to play
with.
Really? He actually acknowledged (not in the exact wording of a Peter
Druker) his weakness for micro-managing?
Never heard him acknowledge the micro
Rick Archer:
Maharishi himself would say that he always needed a new toy to play
with.
shempmcgurk:
Really? He actually acknowledged (not in the exact wording of a Peter
Druker) his weakness for micro-managing?
Rick Archer:
Never heard him acknowledge the micro thing, but he
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What struck me was how MMY got caught up in something so
on 5/25/05 2:27 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer:
Never heard him acknowledge the micro thing, but he admitted his need to
always have some new project or plan.
Sometimes the founder comes back to save the organization, as Steve Jobs has
done
for Apple
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on 5/24/05 8:24 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
COMMENT
Right from the beginning days of the movement, it
was
on 5/25/05 4:18 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The good news is that the West no longer has any significance for the
growth of the movement, a fact which MMY has underscored by raising
fees to exclusionary levels and completely cutting off Britain. What
has to happen now, now that
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/25/05 4:18 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The good news is that the West no longer has any significance for
the
growth of the movement, a fact which MMY has underscored by raising
fees to
Children need praise, and if they don't get enough of it, they'll
leave the movement, like Chopra did. MMY has always recognized the need
to lavish praise and attention on the industrial-age brats in the West who
have gravitated to the TMO, and especially after Chopra left (despite MMY's
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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**SNIP**
I've heard (or read, actually) of other saints who would get
immersed in the trivial with as much focus, energy,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/25/05 2:27 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer:
Never heard him acknowledge the micro thing, but he admitted
his need to
always have some new project or plan.
Sometimes the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/25/05 12:10 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, he was able to maintain an active sex life AND work 18 hours
days?
Apparently so. Did you ever hang around him? Extraordinary energy and
creativity.
Thanks for this Vashti--this is an important criteria to know. If I
dare say, it appears he may just be a bit of a workaholic--and of
course with one of the most interesting jobs imaginable, you probably
wouldn't want to sleep!
On May 25, 2005, at 7:14 PM, vashtirama wrote:
I just heard
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Rick Archer wrote:
on 5/25/05 11:34 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What struck me was how MMY got caught up in something so
insignificant and mundane as a group photo and the way it was
supposed to
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel
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-I think Maharishi just has the heart of a child;
which like someone said,
is required to,
enter the kingdom of heaven
Maybe. But the question is, can such a one, once there entered into -
pure in heart, as
Margaret Thatcehr was known to sleep no more that 5 hours every
night.
It is not such a stretch to think that Maharishi could sleep less
than Thatcher. A couple of hours less per night would put him at 3
hours a night.
The dark glasses thing seems far-fetched. Anyone ever see Maharishi
in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bbrigante [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Children need praise, and if they don't get enough of it, they'll
leave the movement, like Chopra did. MMY has always recognized the
need to lavish praise and attention on the industrial-age brats in
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek
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**SNIP**
I've heard (or read, actually) of
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, off_world_beings
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Margaret Thatcehr was known to sleep no more that 5 hours every
night.
It is not such a stretch to think that Maharishi could sleep less
than Thatcher.
So what are you saying?
That Maharishi slept with
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Children need praise, and if they don't get enough of it,
they'll
leave the movement, like Chopra did. MMY has always
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Children need praise, and if they don't
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Children need praise, and if they don't get enough of it, they'll
leave the movement, like Chopra did. MMY has always
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Children need praise, and if they don't get enough of it, they'll
leave the movement, like Chopra did. MMY has always
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Children need praise, and if they don't get
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Chopra screwed up bigtime (as did Hari Sharma). However, what
Skolnick and JAMA did was eaqually screwed up, IMHO.
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on 5/25/05 12:10 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
so, he was able to maintain an active sex life AND work 18 hours
days?
Apparently so. Did you
on 5/25/05 6:28 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sincerely yours,
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on 5/25/05 7:02 PM, off_world_beings at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The dark glasses thing seems far-fetched. Anyone ever see Maharishi
in shades?
Never, nor glasses of any kind, although he needed them. His eyesight was
poor and he had cataract surgery some years back.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I think the calamity, if you want to call it that, is that you will
continue as you are now...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Good question - interesting to hear more about it.
Another would give two pints of blood per day to Maharishi
until they died, if he asked for it. Many of these live in
Skem, and there is now much suffering amongst those who
least deserve it. They are totally and utterly committed
to him and his work, and would cut off their right hands
if
so why do they still take the apparent abuse?
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I think the calamity, if you want to call it that, is that you
will
continue as you are now...
And to further this analogy, as I think it is a very appropriate
one - it's well-known that women in this situation will rationalize
the beatings in every conceivable way to turn it into it's my fault,
because I didn't do such and such..., or I must have deserved it
because I failed him in..., or
Because they don't practice
TM.
- Original Message -
From:
Cliff
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 10:31
PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are
the British here at FFLife?
Why do women who get beaten by their
lovers
on 5/24/05 8:24 PM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
COMMENT
Right from the beginning days of the movement, it
was fascinating to watch how some (not by any means
ALL of them) of the governors
in charge of running centres seemed to have no ability
or confidence in making decisions
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Cliff [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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And to further this analogy, as I think it is a very appropriate
one - it's well-known that women in this situation will rationalize
the beatings in every conceivable way to turn it into it's my
fault,
because I didn't do
on 5/24/05 11:39 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure that Maharishi enjoys an extremely active and fulfilling sex-
life. It is for certain that he is actively pursuing as much sex as
he possibly can...
I guess you're kidding. If he is, more power to him, but the evidence ends
in
Dr. Pete
Is Cliff here trying to tell us something about himself? Rick says
Cliff's shadow self is telling us about something.
Sincerely yours,
Slartybardfast
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And to further this analogy, as I think it is a very
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 5/24/05 11:39 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure that Maharishi enjoys an extremely active and fulfilling
sex-
life. It is for certain that he is actively pursuing as much sex as
he possibly
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on 5/24/05 11:39 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm sure that Maharishi enjoys an extremely active and
fulfilling
sex-
life.
Good question - interesting to hear more about it. I've already had my
say here. So far I can report no mass panic in the UK as a whole. In
fact no mention in the press about MMY's punishment for
being destroyers of the world.. in fact life here goes on as before.
Not sure about British
Nothing. Nothing is going to befall
any of you as a result of Maharishi's fatwah.
- Original Message -
From:
claudiouk
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 6:58
AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Where are
the British here at FFLife
What if they flush _The Science of Being_?
On May 18, 2005, at 8:11 AM, Llundrub wrote:
othing. Nothing is going to befall any of you as a result of Maharishi's fatwah.
I think the calamity, if you want to call it that, is that you will continue as
you are now...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, claudiouk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good question - interesting to hear more about it. I've already had my
say here. So far I can report no mass panic in the UK
From MMY's perspective, if I understand it correctly, TM erases the stresses
that prevent
one from being in CC. CC is the state where the nervous system allows one to
maintain
pure consciousness 24-hours/day. As to how this transforms an individual
personality, if
it does at all, it seems to
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World Peace News: Top StoriesMaharishi withdraws his Transcendental
Meditation Movement from England-the destroyer of the world
Maharishi issued another dramatic announcement during his news
conference. Maharishi said
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Llundrub [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing. Nothing is going to befall any of you as a result of
Maharishi's fatwah.
Quite true but he may have had a joytish done which indicates problems
for the UK and jumped on it to build creability.
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