Asking if they had been out initiating, teaching TM? Speaking briefly with one
of the 'new' TM Raja the response was, "Oh no, the Raja do not teach".
The TM Raja Don't teach TM and don't meditate with the large group?
Newly installed raja Chris Crowell represented all of the 16 new
Is interesting to see where Maharishi’s teacher, our Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda
Saraswati was with sectarianism and the traditional caste system while he
briefly was something of the equivalent of the Pope of Hinduism during the
1940-50’s postcolonial Indian independence period. Something of a
some westerners and most especially Americans like to cling to the idea of
their superiority while an honest understanding of India shows them to have
been little more than savages on the fringes of civilization. Desperate, they
resort to slander
From NYTimes, History:
"..as a political force, Hindu nationalism predates India’s independence in
1947 and reflects centuries of resentment among the subcontinent’s Hindu
majority. Hindus submitted reluctantly to waves of Muslim conquest from the
north starting almost a thousand years ago,
Yes, simply as a transcription of conversation there is a powerful insight to
communal spiritual Fairfield, Iowa. These kind of spiritual conversations go on
throughout the meditating day in Fairfield. Morning, noon and night. they
make for quite a journal.
In journalizing, the names of
Excellent post.
It's this sort of vision of FF that has prompted me to resettle in FF. It
would be wonderful if the person conveying these thoughts, and friends, could
participate in FairfieldLife and help illuminate further how things are
unfolding in the community.
Fairfield, Ia. Coffee shop satsanga:
From conversation, opinion by experience given:
“The meditating community is much more inclusive now moving towards unity
behavior, an understanding, seeing the truth in many things. This is informed
by their experience, by the transcendent. Not
An objective framework, of spiritual morality?
Doctrinaire TM’ers now aggressively contend that spiritually developed people
must have a brain wave pattern that science has determined (according to their
TM system). Then as people are practicing meditators cultivating consciousness
as TM
In Genre, Ashrams in America.
109506'TM has Small Town Kansas Farm Town on Edge'
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/109506
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/109506
437330Re: Images of the Brahmasthan
Back in the late 80s and 90s, the Movement claimed all sort of things, such as
100,000 young students in India becoming sidhas, etc. None of which panned out.
Did he present any evidence for his claim?
Can his claim be independently verified?
equally pressing need. With reduced funding from the Settle Foundation, the
large group of dedicated Yogic Flyers participating in the Invincible America
Assembly in Fairfield has no major source of support.
Funds are needed not only to maintain this precious group, but to grow it to
the
My wild guess: Japan, or some Latin American country?
Sky, about policing spiritual teachers these points are quite fair
considerations.
Hopefully Rick Archer and his Batgap committee of awakened reporting at the
SAND conference could take a look at your #6 suggestion in particular. Making
the other suggestions operant likely would take
; Aug 1, 2006
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"dhamiltony2k5"
wrote:
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> The Meditating Community and the TMO, Fairfieldlife.
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> Fairfield Life, Indexing the Story Here at:
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https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/31/chinas-most-populous-area-could-be-uninhabitable-by-end-o
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jul/31/chinas-most-populous-area-could-be-uninhabitable-by-end-of-centuryf-century
llundrub wrote :
I was thinking today about the various sanghas everywhere on earth and how
few have formed and remained and fought all the ravages of time and
adversity to remain and still put out good peace and harmony for the
universe and you guys are one of the few in contemporary
Support in Nature, a Provident protective care of unasked for grace in elegant
favour of nature as a spiritual power. ..Support of Nature.
The presentation of providence as support in nature that is in spiritual
cultivation was a strong feature in both Guru Dev’s and Maharishi’s
"Raja Luis announced today that the first 10,000 group is in place in one
country on earth."
Where?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Stephen_J._Crothers
Though not a study directly of ethics or morality in behavior there is a
doctorate thesis that is empirical study of incident of 'support of nature' as
providential grace in life from spiritual awakening. But evidently cultural
upbringing has some lot to do with morality as expressed in
FW: Currently,
"The IAA (Invincible America Assembly) is everyone who comes to Group Program
twice a day." - Maharishi [not just those on Grant or rounding]
#s on the July 29 Nation Wide Group Meditation in Fairfield..
This was the highest increase so far in Nation Wide and Global
To Spiritual Ahimsa,
hows about..
A Science and NonDuality Seal of Ethical Approval, Something like The Good
Housekeeping Seal of approval?
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An Old meditator here who knew Maharishi and of the back story in the 1960’s
suggests Rick run his
An Old meditator here who knew Maharishi and of the back story in the 1960’s
suggests Rick run his spiritual ethics board something like the Organic
Standards is set with ‘recertification’ and inspections to standards, every
year, in certification that there has been no such #MeToo activity the
Bhairitu,
It's a typical summer day in SF. If you don't know the weather pattern here
in this city. It's actually cold and foggy. The tourists would be surprised
to find that the sunshine is not here during the summer.
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And California is
And California is burning. How are the brown skies over in SF?
Also I think Adam Smith's experience has failed. :-)
On 07/29/2018 08:37 AM, jr_...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
Carde,
That's a powerful message.
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We [hopi?] were told we
Carde,
That's a powerful message.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :
We [hopi?] were told we would see America come and go.
https://youtu.be/g7cylfQtkDg https://youtu.be/g7cylfQtkDg
Yep, fair summary and the more recent breaking news (2018) from NASA is that
the ‘old’ Arctic Ice is melting and is breaking up this summer. Yikes!
Is a call to meditation, while you can.
Jai Guru You
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Some research on the effects of meditation on cognitive biases.
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797613503853
http://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/0956797613503853
In the research reported here, we investigated the debiasing effect of
mindfulness meditation on the sunk-cost
Some research on meditations influence on Five Factors of Personality. Some
changes (not huge or transformational), particularly in reduced neurotic trains
(anxiety, etc) which make sense given other studies that show that meditation
tends to dampen activity of the Default Mode Network
Rick’s ethics article raises the question as to whether non-dual awakening
results in spontaneous perfected, ethical actions. Some teachers and
organizations have claimed this, or some variation of it, though there appears
little empirical or even anecdotal evidence supporting such claims.
This was published in the Trinidad Express this morning, Guru Purnima. There is
no higher authority walking the planet.
A key word in here is, "Eligibility"
Sadguru finds you when the eligibility comes to fruition.
Not the other way around..
Give up the ego.
Jaya Guru Datta
The recommended procedure when looking for a guru is to test them for
some time before becoming a student. That can be months (in some cases
years).
On 07/26/2018 09:26 AM, skymt...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:
I am simply suggesting that some better levels of validation would be
I am simply suggesting that some better levels of validation would be useful
when teachers make claims about their attainments and the effectiveness of
their methods to enable students to achieve the same.
If a teacher is not making such claims, then validation is not an issue.
Using
"However, clearly Science does not yet have a measurement handle on shakti in
the human psycho spiritual body. MRI’s, EEG’s, blood chemistry and such as
tools are yet way too coarse"
People can have lots of shakti and not be enlightened. Measuring shakti is not
the primary objective. fMRIs
It's kinda laughable to have the unenlightened make rules for the
enlightened. Yogis and Buddhist monks will certainly find it good for a
laugh.
Music teachers often teach students that achieve far more in their
careers than their teachers did. Music teachers teach techniques and
methods
"However, clearly Science does not yet have a measurement handle on shakti in
the human psycho spiritual body. MRI’s, EEG’s, blood chemistry and such as
tools are yet way too coarse"
People can have lots of shakti and not be enlightened. Measuring shakti is not
the primary objective. fMRIs
Good framework for thinking about this, Sky.
However, clearly Science does not yet have a measurement handle on shakti in
the human psycho spiritual body.
MRI’s, EEG’s, blood chemistry and such as tools are yet way too coarse.
People’s experience and the transparency of the internet age
A core ethical issue for the non-dual community is whether teachers are
offering something of value, if they are delivering what they promise, and if
they can speak with high veracity and confidence supporting these claims. That
is,
a) have they achieved the states and live the attributes
this is extremely valuable and brilliant stuff you are posting
A 501(c)3 non-profit. Would be interesting to see the draft of the written
mission statement, bylaws and statement of membership. You all want a
membership association of people who are spiritual in some transformative way
to some degree and who are moral. With authority. Who is going to rise
A 501(c)3 non-profit. Would be interesting to see the draft of the written
mission statement, bylaws and statement of membership. You all want a
membership association of people who are spiritual in some transformative way
to some degree and who are moral. With authority. Who is going to rise
What is a saint? Start there.
Then, what is conscionable?
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Article I published at
https://www.scienceandnonduality.com/?post_type=post=126334.
Slightly updated version below.
Ethics and Spiritual Teaching
By Rick Archer, with Jac
Yes, and an appreciation within this in particular to David Lynch, the
DLFoundation, John Hagelin Bobby Roth and the focused workings of some many
well-wishers who turned what had become the disorganized apparatus of teaching
of TM in North America.
There is a summer governor’s conference (™
Hmmmaa-kaasha (akasha) might be related, if not identical with zero-point
energy
which shines (kaash) , vibrates, even at absolute zero...
kAz, (=kaash) kAzate (-ti) , pp. {kAzita} be visible, appear, shine, be
[[-,]] brilliant or pleasant. I. {cA3kazIti & cAkazya3te} shine bright;
Brahmananda Saraswati (Guru Dev) from a mid-20th Century Himalayan India and
then Maharishi in the opening decade of the modern 21st Century taught to this
practicality of spiritual life.
The presentation of providence as support in nature that is in spiritual
cultivation was a strong
More broadly, one long line of history of the West is a reading of narrative
of abuse by religious belief that weaponizes creed as ideology against
spiritual experience. It begins when asked, “What do you believe’? ‘What is
your creed’?
cardemaister Writes: I'm afraid ME doesn't work
dreaming this world into being
http://web.archive.org/web/20071110053113/http://www.l-spioneers.org/mmeylin/teams/cobra/SS/1stAmericans/Len.creation.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20071110053113/http://www.l-spioneers.org/mmeylin/teams/cobra/SS/1stAmericans/Len.creation.html
Keep in mind that if everyone were to have the diet that it is right for
their body then you would get a dramatic reduction in meat consumption.
Vegan diets are only good for brief time as cleansing otherwise many
people will develop anemia from them. Vegan diets might be useful for
proof is to the opposite
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/SocietalEffects/Critics-Rebuttals/index.cfm#Fales_and_Markovsky
http://www.truthabouttm.org/truth/SocietalEffects/Critics-Rebuttals/index.cfm#Fales_and_Markovsky
religious fanaticism is no different than political fanaticism , same
It's changing all of our lives, globally its devastating the planet.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/may/31/avoiding-meat-and-dairy-is-single-biggest-way-to-reduce-your-impact-on-earth
Sit up and meditate, ‘meditation is something you do’..
Back a few years ago when people were being subsidized with grant money to
stay in Fairfield and meditate with the large group in the Domes some few were
gaming the money system then by just coming in to the Dome meditation and
sleeping.
Acid and alkaline pH balances. Some people are actually TOO alkaline.
Your blood pH only needs to shift a little to cause problems. Much of
this also correlates to how the autonomic nervous systems works. It's
possible to be too sympathetic dominant (metabolic syndrome) or too
Pulled along by the experience..
Good observation. In teaching TM I always asked that people themselves in
learning the meditation give it a real go in a regular practice for some time
to see what it does.
The folks who tended to do this with some discipline were the ones who got on
to
Who is likely to cultivate spirituality..
FW: opinion..
..the GGM (Global Group Meditation) numbers gain of numbers meditating in the
Domes in June was not so much as anticipated.
..because women are more likely to see Ammachi than men. I feel the event
below is probably the main
From email:
Yes, we know first hand what happens when speaking one's mind comes into
conflict with staunchly held beliefs. Experience develops somewhat differently
for different bodies and minds and the mind's ability to understand those
changes also undergoes variable development. No two
What do you believe? In an asserting of the ‘sinner and redemption’ evangelical
creed as certainty to a membership then most any group could morph easily in to
abuse by disordered narcissism.
..
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/narcissistic-personality-disorder
What did Guru Dev (Maharishi’s teacher) say
about cultivating this support in nature?
It is a theme that recurs in his talks about spirituality and spiritual life.
This is one discourse that considers a support in nature that comes from
meditation and spiritual practices.
Swami
It seems evident that as spiritual movements may begin and become more
administrative and institutional then a religious bigotry by tru-believer
personality can administratively come in where in effect what may have begun as
spiritually experienced perspective on life can find itself persecuted
Vlodrop on Guru-puurNimaa: 87 F?
https://www.accuweather.com/en/nl/vlodrop/24/daily-weather-forecast/24?day=6
https://www.accuweather.com/en/nl/vlodrop/24/daily-weather-forecast/24?day=6
Usually lots-of-yffers tend to cool down the weather?
Vlodrop on Guru-puurNimaa: 87 F?
https://www.accuweather.com/en/nl/vlodrop/24/daily-weather-forecast/24?day=6
https://www.accuweather.com/en/nl/vlodrop/24/daily-weather-forecast/24?day=6
Usually lots of yffers tend to cool down the weather?
In my understanding, and please *someone who knows* correct me if I am wrong,
Yogastah kuru karmani applies to all Yogas, not only Karma Yoga.
Eustace
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Eustace,
B Gita Chapter II, verse 48 states: "Yogastah kuru karmani."... meaning
In this nature of phenomenology, there is someone who conducted what became an
empirical study of 'support of nature' as phenomenology. Gathered data,
authored a paper on support of nature experience. Became the work of a PhD
thesis. Collected people’s experience that became data. The work of
Support of Nature in findings of phenomenological support that is operational
as nature in the human life form in practical life. Phenomenal. ‘..Know this
to be that which you are seeking’, also.
email sharing by experience from a friend to FFL..
"Yes, our source of the source is
email sharing by experience from a friend to FFL..
"Yes, our source of the source is Mother Divine. We expand in consciousness
from the Self to a clear vision of the Saints, Gods and Goddesses, then on to
Unity, and then... sidestep all of that into Totality/Brahman, transcending
Who will come next to revive the TMO?
That is a very good question. There are now a few millennials, 30’s, 40 or so
years old who grew up in this and are now initiators having taught a number of
people to meditate. Some have taught some number of hundreds of people to
meditate. You don’t see
I got initiated in July 1993 when Chopra was becoming popular and jyotish was
mushrooming in Seattle, WA and around the country. That was when KN Rao came
to the USA to teach the ancient science of light. Ayurveda and amrit kalash
were hot too.
Then, King Tony was crowned and the rest of
Yeah, that was once a core value teaching in TM, 'meditate and act'. Then it
(also) went on to other stuff in the 1990’s with attempt at the resuscitation
of the Vedic Sciences, Vedic culture, sanskrit, faith in astrology, yagyas,
ayurveda, remedies and such. The bad fitting pink saris and
Yeah, that was once a core value teaching in TM, 'meditate and act'. Then it
went on to other stuff in the 1990’a with the attempt at the resuscitation of
the Vedic Sciences, Vedic culture, faith in astrology, yagyas, chanting,
ayurveda, remedies and such. The bad fitting pink saris and
Eustace,
B Gita Chapter II, verse 48 states: "Yogastah kuru karmani."... meaning
established in yoga, perform actions. This essentially is saying that TM is
Karma Yoga.
I posted here believing someone would have the answer at this fingertips or at
least on a shelf nearby. Clearly this wasn't the case, it seems the book is no
longer popular in Fairfield.,So I did what I had tried to avoid, buy the Kindle
edition of the Science of Being ahd Art of Living, Well
Verlinde is one of the few physicists in the current era who is considered to
be in the cutting edge of cosmology/science. He's aligned closely with Leonard
Susskind from Stanford, Rafael Bousso from UC Berkeley, Gerhard Tufte from a
university in the Nethherlands. and Michio Kaku from CUNY
Evidently in experience there are qualities intrinsic to the transcendental
consciousness of Being. Light, ecstacy, and shakti that can come together in
state of the human system. The aspect of support of nature is a phenomena of
this. This experience in this state is phenomenal in life. What
absolutelyit is really good for TMers to understand this and when they go
through bad dasha/bhukti or transits they don't imagine that they are not
benefiting from increased support of nature than what they otherwise would be
experiencing.
So many brilliant posts on this forum recently
Doug,
It would help if a TMer understands a little bit of jyotish to appreciate this
support of Nature. For example, as of today, Rahu is transiting the sign of
Cancer and on the opposite side of Capricorn, Mars is in retrogressed motion.
So, there is an inherent negative quality to
Ongoing in Fairfield, Iowa..
There is a weekday 5pm silent group meditation
Weekdays, 5-6pm. Unaffiliated and open for silent meditation practice.
51 N. Court, Fairfield, Iowa.
The Ammachi satsanga in Fairfield..
This week, June 26th, 2018, it seems half of the Fairfield
Reply/ Knowing the science on both global climate change and meditation, as we
are a group to provide coherence through this phase transition it stands to
logic that what we do best needs to happen soon because in the not too distant
future many of us in this community will be too old to face
MMY warned that the speed and success with which we go through the imminent
transition-phase on Earth is directly dependent on actions taken by the
community of TM and TM Sidhi Meditators, Governors, Mother Divine and Purusha.
/
“There are seven days a week, someday is not one of them.”
Guru Dev Brahmananda Saraswati comments on the effect in consequent of the
company one may keep..
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/437308
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/conversations/messages/437308
Just as Guru Dev points out in
As much as ™ itself is said to be effortless meditation it does take some
discipline to do. At the outset it is actually something you ‘do’.
I have these old cassette tapes from the India TM teacher training courses
with Maharishi, outdoor lectures with crows cawing in the background and
There is a professor who teaches religion at U Missouri who often brings his
students up to the vedic yagyas that are scheduled out in the Fairfield
meditating community, see: http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/
http://vedyagya.blogspot.com/
, he gets called on as an expert witness in to the
It could seem that material western culture is appropriating what were Eight
limbs of yoga down to trademarks, like inside the marketing of ‘yoga’ as
postures, though posture in practice is only noted in a couple or so of
incidental comments of Eastern spiritual scripture,,
These excerpts
According to the concordance, on pg 303 of SofB, there's something on karma
yoga.Hope this helps.
On Thursday, July 12, 2018, 1:09:47 AM CDT, eustace10679
wrote:
No, that's not it. I remember reading plainly that TM *is* Karma Yoga, the
important issue being that after diving
No, that's not it. I remember reading plainly that TM *is* Karma Yoga, the
important issue being that after diving in you *have* ti get out and transfer
to the outer world of action the what you got from diving in. That's why in TM
extended practice -- without outside action -- is not
Arrival of another person of the old TM movement in moving back to FF. came to
the silent Quaker meeting last weekend.
Then at the Harmony singing last nite another old TM movement community person
returning to FF,
moving back from craziness of silicon valley cities. . These are retired
Cut-price Chinese home insulation is being blamed for a massive rise in
emissions of a gas, highly damaging to the Earth's protective ozone layer.
"We were absolutely gobsmacked to find that companies very openly confirmed
using CFC-11 while acknowledging it was illegal," Avipsa Mahapatra
At least YF seems to be karma yoga par excellence: simultaneous intense action
(karma) and "non-action", samaadhi (yoga)??
Trending recently in Spiritually consciousness communal FF, for instance
arriving at the meditator Quaker meeting yesterday are a couple who moving from
Hawaii escaping the ‘vog’ sold their house in Hawaii and just bought a house in
FF, these are folks who are not ™’ers but looking for
As it happens, according to Bhoja-deva, being able to walk on a spider's web
is one stage of learning, or whatever, yogic flying (aakaasha-gamanam). Here is
the suutra and vRtti (comment):
kAyAkAshayoH sambandhasaMyamAllaghutUlasamApatteshchAkAshagamanam || vibhUti
42||
vR^ittiH \-\-\-
(that people in meditation can influence others at a distance)
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The consequent of that injunction ‘to not make anyone feel guilty’ is that any
conclusive summation had its legs cut off. After presenting the science and
criticism it just ended.
Meditating Quakers meet..
Meeting Sunday July 8 10:30am
at Hamilton's Farm.
Hi Friends
As a loving reminder, we came to a consensus earlier that we will be:
~Observant of silence as we arrive and enter in the meeting room…and reserve
our delightful fellowship communications for
“There are seven days a week, someday is not one of them.” Live like we are
dying, let us live with urgency because the situation is urgent. Live like we
are pursuing excellence in a culture of mediocrity. As if we are pursuing love
in a culture of indifference because those things matter. They
It is an amazing opportunity for a soul, for consciousness incarnate to have,
to get a human lifetime.
Spirituality may not be someone’s ontological sense of experience but okay the
global climate change science becomes this sobering spiritual reminder as we
look at it in contrast to so much
It is an amazingly narrow atmospheric bandwidth that we human kind (&
multicellular life) can exist in and live in on earth (basic 8th grade earth
science). The adage for humanity then comes, “Make hay while the sun shines”,
spirituality comes up in to mind. Now comes a time to do what you know
Yes, what we are finding with this, with the global climate science, is that
people seem to turn to their spiritual state as they face more certainly with
their mortality. It is interesting to see how people come to spiritual matters
as they come to understand the circumstance of such the
Some doubt is necessary to make intelligent decisions. Not enough, you are a
sucker, and too much and you lose out. I am well aware of what spiritual
practice in my life has and has not done.
Clearly meditating is not going to remove CO2 from the atmosphere. But would it
result in people
Some ‘in the mind’ intellectualizing may doubt the spiritual life for some
lack of experience and may disrespect the effect of spiritual practice in life.
But no, the question is not necessarily how could consciousness sequester
carbon from the atmosphere given the face of the global climate
1978,,
Discovery of the “Extended Maharishi Effect” -square root of one percent of
the population practicing the TM and TM-Sidhi program together in one place
produces coherence in collective consciousness promoting positive and
progressive trends in society. Maharishi tests this formula
Within TM the steps of instruction are brilliant the way they do work. That
goes to Maharishi. But analysis outside of that context quickly becomes full
mind busyness. Of course it does not make sense when read or said out of
context. Things like, Mental repetition ..is a faint idea?’..‘Take
Funerals and talk about the good old days. And for the lucky few,
grandchildren.
Sal
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 7:51 PM, skymt...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
> wrote:
>
>
>
> Its good to hear that the broader spiritual community remains vibrant /
> growing.
> Beyond the TM community, what
Its good to hear that the broader spiritual community remains vibrant /
growing. Beyond the TM community, what sort of groups and interests are
becoming more popular and prominent?
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