[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
mjackson74: > I didn't say he made 'em up, I believe he found some > that he liked and created some mumbo jumbo about them > like - Oh don't say it aloud, they don't have no > meaning etc > So, how many 'mantras' did you get from MMY? LoL! > > > From my experience one mantra charged by a real

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-16 Thread Michael Jackson
: Saturday, March 16, 2013 11:02 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .   > > From my experience one mantra charged by a real Master > > is all you need... > > mjackson74: > Too bad the TM mantras came from the dime a dozen mantra > bin in India an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-16 Thread Richard J. Williams
> > From my experience one mantra charged by a real Master > > is all you need... > > mjackson74: > Too bad the TM mantras came from the dime a dozen mantra > bin in India and were not given by a "real" Master - unless > by "real" you mean that he was a human being in a physical > body...You

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-16 Thread Michael Jackson
rsonally I've never encountered an unfulfilled soul who patiently stayed with his TM-mantra." You are either the biggest liar since Marshy or you don't get out much. From: nablusoss1008 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, March 11,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-13 Thread sound of stillness
Beautiful. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > My tradition is Kali Sadhaka Garana. As a Sidh Tantric I can teach > meditation and do some healings. It's more about the questions that the > student first asks me. > > On 03/12/2013 08:02 AM, sound of stillness wrote: > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-12 Thread Bhairitu
My tradition is Kali Sadhaka Garana. As a Sidh Tantric I can teach meditation and do some healings. It's more about the questions that the student first asks me. On 03/12/2013 08:02 AM, sound of stillness wrote: > Thank you Bhairitu for sharing. > > In a dialogue we are open to all points of vie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-12 Thread sound of stillness
Thank you Bhairitu for sharing. In a dialogue we are open to all points of view. Including being open to having, and not identifying with any particular point of view. Although we may favour some over others. A dialogue is a way to cultivate the distinction between a point of view or views an

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 03/11/2013 02:08 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > >> Maybe because I'm interested in mantra shastra? Maybe because I wanted > >> to learn more than what the rather limited TMO h

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread Bhairitu
On 03/11/2013 02:08 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: >> Maybe because I'm interested in mantra shastra? Maybe because I wanted >> to learn more than what the rather limited TMO had to offer? Maybe >> because I know about other paths and have frie

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread nablusoss1008
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > Maybe because I'm interested in mantra shastra? Maybe because I wanted > to learn more than what the rather limited TMO had to offer? Maybe > because I know about other paths and have friends in those paths who did > learn more? > >

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread Bhairitu
Maybe because I'm interested in mantra shastra? Maybe because I wanted to learn more than what the rather limited TMO had to offer? Maybe because I know about other paths and have friends in those paths who did learn more? Believe what you want to believe. It's all just an illusion anyway. :-

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2013-03-11 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
Why do you have to learn mantra shastra? Lots of people have gotten enlightened and become masters without any mantra at all. That is I assume this. Because enlightenment as an experience is only experienced by the person having it, we can only inductively extrapolate that experience to other in

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2013-03-11 Thread seekliberation
I agree 100% that TM is definitely not a full meal in terms of spirituality. It's more of a bait-and-hook way of getting us interested in spirituality. I'll have to say, if it weren't for TM, I would've never gone any deeper. I'd probably be a die-hard atheist. But thanks to TM, I diverted f

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread Bhairitu
As I indicate in my post TM is a dead end if you want to become a real master. It's just a teaching for the masses. You'll never learn about mantra shastra which is important for that. I got what I wanted and more with one on one instruction from a real master. Serious students should not w

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread sound of stillness
You say you came to a "dead end" doing TM. What was the dead end that you came to? p.s. My writing experience is in multi-media. The screenplay I'm writing may come to an iPad near you. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu wrote: > > On 03/10/2013 01:10 PM, sound of stillness wr

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-11 Thread sound of stillness
When we speak a thought, then think the same thought, wouldn't that be the process of transcending thought? And if so, wouldn't transcending thought be a common process, not necessarily what we think of as meditation? If we have a room with a table and chair in it, could "in" refer to the sp

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2013-03-11 Thread Buck
Yep, what they [the TM researchers] don't see with their tools is the illumination of the subtle system of the heart field whereby the jivan shakti is resident of human being. Fred said as much in a class when he was asked the question by a physicist about the energetics of the whole system. T

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-10 Thread Bhairitu
You can generate alpha waves by simple deep breathing. When I participated in a University of Washington Study back in the 1970s, when finished I asked if I had generated alpha and the researcher said "no, you generated theta." Theta is preferable for deep meditative states and even more so d

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-10 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > There's something fishy about what the TM'ers are measuring. > TM says (declares) it's alpha global coherence across the > brain that is transcending. Yet I've watched them hook > people up who were saying they don't experience transcending

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dialogue - A proposal . . .

2013-03-10 Thread Buck
There's something fishy about what the TM'ers are measuring. TM says (declares) it's alpha global coherence across the brain that is transcending. Yet I've watched them hook people up who were saying they don't experience transcending but the researchers gloat "there, you see the alpha coheren