Please forgive me, Turq. It is really inexcusable for us to be exposing
spiritual phonies on here like you and Vajrahdoodoo.
Instead, please tell us more about how the Dutch make change for a purchase
(FASCINATING!). Or your dogs (LIFE CHANGING!!). Or the last movie you saw (AN
EVOLUTIONARY MI
Fascinating. All it took for Nabby to become a follower of the fag hag
was one word, "Bingo," piling on to a post from one of the Three Goons
putting down Vaj. Now that she's Nabby's official fag hag she feels the
need to defend *him*, too. I think we may have to change the name of
her gang to the
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
> >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"
> > > wrote:
> > > > In order for Vajradoodoo to see his predicament clearly
> > > > would mean a major reassessment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 wrote:
>
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > My take on Vajradoodoo is that he was exposed regularly and
> > unceasingly to a particular religion early in life in a religious
> > family, much like
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
> >fulleru
> > I get it - thanks for writing more about it. No more what I call ego
> > maintenance thoughts.
>
> For me, that's part of it, but it depends on how deeply and
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"
> wrote:
> >
> > My take on Vajradoodoo is that he was exposed regularly and
> unceasingly to a particular religion early in life in a religious
> family, much like the son of a Baptist preacher, and it has been his
> cross to bear his entire
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>fulleru
> I get it - thanks for writing more about it. No more what I call ego
> maintenance thoughts.
For me, that's part of it, but it depends on how deeply and widely one
personally defines ego.
A line from a Dylan song I have alwa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Yogi" wrote:
>
> Dear tartbrain,
> This is an excellent articulation of the mechanics of thoughts. Jim has
> used the term ego maintenance to explain his take and I have a different
> of putting the same thing. I tell some of my close friends I have
> t
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>fulleru
> I get it - thanks for writing more about it. No more what I call ego
> maintenance thoughts.
For me, that's part of it, but it depends on how deeply and widely one
personally defines ego.
A line from a Dylan song I have alwa
This is disrespectful. And inaccurate anyway. The name is not
vajradoodoo but Vajra-voodoo or, if you like, vajra-vudun (only
hyphenated for clarity).
Clarity is everything at a time like this.
More importantly, it's an extra-special, secret nama-mantra, which I
just told 'cause I can. That's sec
If you are trying to assert the so-called seven types of turya from
Abhinavagupta's Trika then it still gets no sikara especially
a kuban one. It's still a different tradition and a different way to
slice the pie. It's like saying that Buddhist bhumi-s show a deeper
degree of "enlightenment" sin
Dear tartbrain,
This is an excellent articulation of the mechanics of thoughts. Jim has
used the term ego maintenance to explain his take and I have a different
of putting the same thing. I tell some of my close friends I have
thoughts, the same thoughts as before but I can't creating any pain or
s
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7" wrote:
>
> My take on Vajradoodoo is that he was exposed regularly and unceasingly to a
> particular religion early in life in a religious family, much like the son of
> a Baptist preacher, and it has been his cross to bear his entire life. Th
My take on Vajradoodoo is that he was exposed regularly and unceasingly to a
particular religion early in life in a religious family, much like the son of a
Baptist preacher, and it has been his cross to bear his entire life. The poor
bastard never had a chance to find his own spiritual path. No
On Mar 29, 2011, at 8:52 PM, Yifu wrote:
> thx, Vaj. IOW, you're saying MMY didn't reach CC or Unity; but you've not
> provided any evidence as to this.
No, that was not the topic of any recent post, let alone the one you're
supposedly responding to.
> In the face of the vast amount of eviden
thx, Vaj. IOW, you're saying MMY didn't reach CC or Unity; but you've not
provided any evidence as to this. In the face of the vast amount of evidence
that he has, it's up to you to disprove the assertion.
Also, it might help if you quoted somebody else, say Norbu Rinpoche or HHDL.
Find out what
On Mar 29, 2011, at 6:38 PM, emptybill wrote:
> You're wasting my time with such b.s. No citations or reasoned argument ...
> nothing but polemic.
>
>
I'm sorry I can't waste my time or such "reasoned" eye-brow knitten emails.
It's just not where I'm at.
You either "get" what I'm talking ab
Vaj certainly chews a lot of parroted stuff but hasn't learnt how to digest it,
so he frequently chokes on his parroted vomit. He doesn't need any citations,
he is the proponent of Parama Vakra Gita, which has been critically acclaimed
by experts on polemic shastras.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoog
You're wasting my time with such b.s. No citations or reasoned argument
... nothing but polemic.
There is nothing you have to say that is not merely unsupported personal
opinion - sheer gossip. This fits in quite well with one interpretation
of Dzogchen everything is my rolpa/personal display
I get it - thanks for writing more about it. No more what I call ego
maintenance thoughts. I see the distinction as one of non-attachment, to
anything. This state of mind can't be consciously cultivated, but occurs
naturally as a result of sadhana. If non-attachment is here, then as you say,
li
A characteristic of the Thoughtless Mind is being more nested in the present.
Though "Now" is a bit of a cliche, there is a fundamental truth about it. And
its not an imperative like "Be here now". One can't, or it is hard to, will to
be here now. Its not a practice so much, but a condition one
Those are great. Thanks.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
> >
> > My use of the term "thoughtless" might be misinterpreted from the
> state I
> > am referring to. I thought "thoughtless" was a bit of a delicious a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain no_reply@ wrote:
> >
> > My use of the term "thoughtless" might be misinterpreted from the
> state I
> > am referring to. I thought "thoughtless" was a bit of a delicious
and
> ironic
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain wrote:
>
> My use of the term "thoughtless" might be misinterpreted from the
state I
> am referring to. I thought "thoughtless" was a bit of a delicious and
ironic
> term -- with the second or third nunanced background wave of meaning
> reflecting th
Maybe we (you and others) are saying a similar thing, maybe not.
My use of the term "thoughtless" might be misinterpreted from the state I am
referring to. I thought "thoughtless" was a bit of a delicious and ironic term
-- with the second or third nunanced background wave of meaning reflecting
On Mar 28, 2011, at 9:49 PM, emptybill wrote:
You are superimposing the language of Trika upon a yogic-vedanta
question. Shifting to another tradition is a way to not focus upon
the issue.
It is not a way of shifting anything, except to point out your
confusion of the different experien
The purpose of the fag hag is to protect her gay followers.
The purpose of the followers is to do whatever the fag hag wants.
It's good to know one's purpose in life.
[http://i448.photobucket.com/albums/qq209/pinklatexblog2/joancrawford.jp\
g]
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
speaking of Kuban (below) here's Mark Cuban, billionaire owner of the Dallas
Mavericks and Landmark Theaters:at work:
http://bigtoot.files.wordpress.com/2010/04/mark-cuban2.jpg
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" wrote:
>
>
> You are superimposing the language of Trika upon a
You are superimposing the language of Trika upon a yogic-vedanta
question. Shifting to another tradition is a way to not focus upon the
issue.
Turiyatitaa has nothing to do with experience as such ... it is just a
declaration of the c0-presence of experience together with clarity of
pure consciou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>
> >> You're confusing the experience of turiya in the waking state,
> >> manonmana, with turiyatita.
> >>
> >
> >
> > And Vaj you should let go of the fascination with your whore(inte
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
> > And Vaj you should let go of the fascination with your
> > whore(intellect), then you can stop dreaming the dream
> > of thought constructs.
>
> You don't seem to understand the experiential d
Right on. Nothing wrong with thoughts, except by those plagued by their own,
seeking an artificial relief and stillness. Even the accomplishment of that
stillness is only half the battle won. Liberation as you so astutely say is
complete when the mind is the servant of the Self vs. the isolated
On Mar 28, 2011, at 3:15 PM, Ravi Yogi wrote:
>> You're confusing the experience of turiya in the waking state,
>> manonmana, with turiyatita.
>>
>
>
> And Vaj you should let go of the fascination with your whore(intellect), then
> you can stop dreaming the dream of thought constructs.
You
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:09 PM, emptybill wrote:
>
> > For MMY CC is a name for Turyatita, the so-called 5th state.
> >
> > It has nothing to do with the presence or absence of mental
> > activity but rather with the stability of realization
On Mar 28, 2011, at 2:09 PM, emptybill wrote:
For MMY CC is a name for Turyatita, the so-called 5th state.
It has nothing to do with the presence or absence of mental
activity but rather with the stability of realization in the
presence of gross and subtle activity. Although presented in
terms
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:57 AM, tartbrain wrote:
>
> > As always, Turq has presented a thoughtful piece on the dynamics of
> > consciousness. I am eager to hear his thoughts on the influence of
> > the Gayatri Mantra in his scheme of thi
There is a definite reduction in thoughts but that's merely a consequence of
losing the identification of me and mine. Mind is a great utility like the
body. Like I usually say mind should be under the payroll of Self and not the
ego. But I don't currently believe in a thoughtless enlightened st
For MMY CC is a name for Turyatita, the so-called 5th state.
It has nothing to do with the presence or absence of mental
activity but rather with the stability of realization in the
presence of gross and subtle activity. Although presented in
terms of yogic meditation it really references the real
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote:
>
>
> On Mar 28, 2011, at 10:57 AM, tartbrain wrote:
>
> > As always, Turq has presented a thoughtful piece on the dynamics of
> > consciousness. I am eager to hear his thoughts on the influence of
> > the Gayatri Mantra in his scheme of thin
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