[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-29 Thread nablusos108
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: At what level of psychosis would you suggest that someone shouldn't meditate? Any level

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread Peter
--- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what level of psychosis would you suggest that someone shouldn't meditate? Any level of psychosis! And how do you define psychosis, what symptoms are manifesting in those you checked? Delusions, hallucinations, loss of ego boundaries,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only I had a nickel for every self-actualized sidha I've met. I could buy a popsicle. just curious, what is the price of popsicles in your neck of the woods?

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness

2006-11-28 Thread Marek Reavis
Peter, a really excellent discussion and explication on the subject. Thanks. ** --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what level of psychosis would you suggest that someone shouldn't meditate? Any level

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 28, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Peter wrote: And how do you define psychosis, what symptoms are manifesting in those you checked? Delusions, hallucinations, loss of ego boundaries, derealization, depersonalization, ideas of reference, paranoia. In other words, the typical Siddha. :) Sal

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread Peter
--- Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 28, 2006, at 9:05 AM, Peter wrote: And how do you define psychosis, what symptoms are manifesting in those you checked? Delusions, hallucinations, loss of ego boundaries, derealization, depersonalization, ideas of reference,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread Peter
--- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only I had a nickel for every self-actualized sidha I've met. I could buy a popsicle. just curious, what is the price of popsicles in your neck of the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: If only I had a nickel for every self-actualized sidha I've met. I could buy a popsicle.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool fflmod@ wrote: If only I had a nickel for every self-actualized sidha I've met. I could buy a popsicle. just curious, what is the price of popsicles in

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness

2006-11-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, a really excellent discussion and explication on the subject. Thanks. And completely bogus, even illegal, given he's giving medical advice that goes against specific medical advice that has been given to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] How do you judge at what level someone's psychosis becomes a hazard to the practice and that TM would make it worse? Anyone who is psychotic should not start TM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness

2006-11-28 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Peter, a really excellent discussion and explication on the subject. Thanks. And completely bogus, even illegal, given he's giving medical advice that goes against

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread Peter
--- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] How do you judge at what level someone's psychosis becomes a hazard to the practice and that TM would make it

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness

2006-11-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Marek Reavis reavismarek@ wrote: Peter, a really excellent discussion and explication on the subject. Thanks. And completely

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: --- suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: [...] How do you judge at what level someone's

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At what level of psychosis would you suggest that someone shouldn't meditate? Any level of psychosis! And how do you define psychosis, what symptoms are

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread gullible fool
just curious, what is the price of popsicles in your neck of the woods? I don't really know, Jim. When I wrote the previous post, I was thinking of what they cost when I was a kid and used to buy them regularly. A nickel. --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread gullible fool
I remember when you used to be able to get a Hershey's for a nickel! Remember that Seinfeld episode? --- Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If only I had a

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread jim_flanegin
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I remember when you used to be able to get a Hershey's for a nickel! Remember that Seinfeld episode? I don't remember the episode, but my allowance was 35 cents in 4th grade, so I'd walk a mile or two to the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread gullible fool
It's the episode where Jerry tries to buy a new SAAB from Puddy. George tags along and goes beserk when he can't get his TWIX bar out of a vending machine after putting in the coins for it. He goes over to the service window to complain to a guy whose father sits nearby all day long occasionally

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-28 Thread Peter
--- suziezuzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I suppose that if psychosis as you've put it, is organic in origin influencing the psychological domain, then possibly TM cannot heal the physical counterpart and therefore the psychosis remains or becomes worse. I don't believe that the

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. Are we talking specifically about Debbie here? And if so, are we sure she had become psychotic? ---

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. Well, and it can be contraindicated in anxiety disorders,

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread Peter
--- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. Are we talking specifically about Debbie here? And if

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. Well, and it can be contraindicated in anxiety disorders,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. That is debateable also. Some people with anxiety disorders get worse doing relaxation techniques while

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajranatha@ wrote: On Nov 27, 2006, at 7:36 AM, Peter wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse,

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread sparaig
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter drpetersutphen@ wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. That is debateable also. Some

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread suziezuzie
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. What evidence do you personally have here, numbers please? And again, are we specifically talking about TM

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread suziezuzie
At what level of psychosis would you suggest that someone shouldn't meditate? And how do you define psychosis, what symptoms are manifesting in those you checked? For example do they exhibit paranoia or compulsive obsessive behaviors? Are they schizophrenic? I know someone who always looks to

[FairfieldLife] Re: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness.

2006-11-27 Thread nablusos108
Peter wrote: Yes, anixiety disorders, depressive disorders, but absolutely not psychosis, it only makes it worse, much worse. --- suziezuzie msilver1951@ wrote: Transcendental Meditation is a natural and effective cure for mental illness. A