The greatest and weirdest paradox for me is in dealing with the idea
that everything is Pure Consciousness or Brahman. In that case, we
can't say, it's my ignorance that's keeping me from realizing this
since this too is Brahman, the ignorance, the process of moving out
of it, getting into igno
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "claudiouk" wrote:". . . amazing how the mere act of
> observation can alter outcomes in quantum experiments."
>
> Hmmm, I'm thinking that "observation" as defined in today's physics is
> actually not such. It's not w
I wasn't clear. What I was getting it is, you were
speculating that the laws of nature weren't all that
intelligent, given all the suffering in the world;
and I was suggesting that since those same laws of
nature gave us *our* intelligence, we couldn't
really be any more intelligent than the laws,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> And now, the truth.
>
> The earth is expanding at the speed of light. It grows 186,000
miles
> bigger in all directions every second. The moon expands too, but
> because it's smaller, it expands into a smaller bigger
Jim's comment (below) is as well said as anything I've heard or read.
It would seem that the self never truly experiences or identifies, but
rather the ego, being the reflection of That in prakiti does the
identifying (and the suffering) as its proxy. The ego (jiva) can be
happy or blissful it e
"claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:". . . amazing how the mere act of
observation can alter outcomes in quantum experiments."
Hmmm, I'm thinking that "observation" as defined in today's physics is
actually not such. It's not witnessing that changes the observed,
it's the throwing of objects at
"Appear intelligent *compared to what*? " - just the fact that nature
is lawful, orderly and consistent and thereby discoverable and
predictable; but also that the "constants" in nature are so fienely
tuned that even the tiniest numerical deviation and matter and energy
would not develop or exi
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> New morning was talking about drugs earlier as a way to temporarily
> alleviate suffering, with the caveat that if we were to use them as
> a constant solution, we'd end up like Elvis or Rush Limbaugh (I'm
> pa
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Thats more of it.
>
> Perhaps its the sutle realm archetye, platonic form of THE essence of
> Grateful Dead Album in my head -- but Jim's description was of that.
> (Where is Rango when we need him. Or what was the n
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"
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> > A lot of good points have been made about ways of handling
suffering
> > eg Marek's concerning putting the attention away from suffering,
on
> > a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On the other hand this veil of ignorance & forgetting
> implicated in the unified field itself (therefore preceding
> karma and personal sin) might give rise to Laws of Nature
> that themselves only APPEAR intelligent.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> A lot of good points have been made about ways of handling suffering
> eg Marek's concerning putting the attention away from suffering, on
> attention itself - hence manage to transcend suffering; or by
> embracing
Thats more of it.
Perhaps its the sutle realm archetye, platonic form of THE essence of
Grateful Dead Album in my head -- but Jim's description was of that.
(Where is Rango when we need him. Or what was the name of that GD
devotee on ATM or Jim Cooks list)
Maybe Jim cognized the Divine and it tu
A lot of good points have been made about ways of handling suffering
eg Marek's concerning putting the attention away from suffering, on
attention itself - hence manage to transcend suffering; or by
embracing suffering/demons eg Rory or Jim. I can see the wisdom in
all this. Am also impressed w
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, new.morning
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > > and upon the
> > > throne sat a being of purest gold, draped in pure gol
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > and upon the
> > throne sat a being of purest gold, draped in pure gold ermine
and
> > velvet, a skull demonic face upon a beautiful skeletal bod
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
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> > and upon the
> > throne sat a being of purest gold, draped in pure gold ermine
and
> > velvet, a skull demonic face upon a beautiful skeletal bod
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> YES! This is what I meant when I said there is a place inside
where
> the Purusha deeply hates and fears the Prakriti, and vice versa.
> Coming upon the Purusha's utterly helpless imprisonment within the
> bodymind-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> and upon the
> throne sat a being of purest gold, draped in pure gold ermine and
> velvet, a skull demonic face upon a beautiful skeletal body, deep
> gold ribs and pelvis, leering as only a face stripped of flesh
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> YES! This is what I meant when I said there is a place inside
where
> the Purusha deeply hates and fears the Prakriti, and vice versa.
> Coming upon the Purusha's utterly helpless imprisonment within the
> bodymind-
That raises the question, in my mind, "if you were living in hell,
would you know it?" Or would you rationalize an altrnative more
hopeful view?
It seems the Cathars recognized / believed that they were in hell -- a
suffering life made by and ruled by Satan.
Hells, various levels, might be char
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"
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> > Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way,
> > perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods
> > (maybe states or permanent stations in your cases??).
For me a mood is a state of consciou
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Marek Reavis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Comment below:
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> **
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk"
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> > Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way,
> > perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) b
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way,
> perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods
> (maybe states or permanent stations in your cases??). Doesn't
> help the wilderbeast
Comment below:
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way,
> perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods
(maybe
> states or permanent stations in your cases??). Doesn't h
Both of you are looking at the Relative in a rather upbeat way,
perhaps reflecting transient (for most mortals) blissful moods (maybe
states or permanent stations in your cases??). Doesn't help the
wilderbeast being tormented to death by lions or some innocent 16-
year old in Pakistan having aci
"I" sees through both "my" eyes. I sees through all 100 trillion
eyes on this planet. So what's the use of yet another pair of eyes
to see with, unless it's to check out what the binocular perspective
from that moving point in the universe is like.
Being yet one more hot squidge of granodio
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "claudiouk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> "constantly crossing and recrossing the gap of ignorance" might imply
> therefore that something is lacking in UNITY? Never saw the sense of
> the purpose of life as "expansion of happiness" by going into
> ignoranc
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> And why is it that the billions of souls on this atmospheric sphere
> placed precisely in space, near Surya, have chosen this very moment
> to realize the exact lessons, their perfect dreams, the specific
> scener
"constantly crossing and recrossing the gap of ignorance" might imply
therefore that something is lacking in UNITY? Never saw the sense of
the purpose of life as "expansion of happiness" by going into
ignorance.. if the happiness is in the return to Unity, why wander
off in the first place??
-
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
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> --Right, but there's no law dictating that animals can't get
> Enlightened. Ramana Maharshi stated that Lakshmi the Cow got
> Enlightened upon leaving her body.
And, in a brilliant demonstration of the essenti
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin"
> wrote:
> >> Hi Rory, good to hear from you. Your perspective is always a
> > refreshing and profound one. I find it delightfully paradoxical
that
> > we as h
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > > wrote:
>
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>> Hi Rory, good to hear from you. Your perspective is always a
> refreshing and profound one. I find it delightfully paradoxical that
> we as humans, as the perfect agents of the Divine, serve Him and Her
> best by
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff"
> wrote:
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> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > --Right, but there's no law dictating that animals can't get
> > > E
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
> wrote:
> >
> > --Right, but there's no law dictating that animals can't get
> > Enlightened. Ramana Maharshi stated that Lakshmi the Cow got
> > Enlightened
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "matrixmonitor"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> --Right, but there's no law dictating that animals can't get
> Enlightened. Ramana Maharshi stated that Lakshmi the Cow got
> Enlightened upon leaving her body.
> My hypothesis: rocks can get Enlightened but
--Right, but there's no law dictating that animals can't get
Enlightened. Ramana Maharshi stated that Lakshmi the Cow got
Enlightened upon leaving her body.
My hypothesis: rocks can get Enlightened but they might have
difficulty communicating this fact.
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> BRAIN FUNCTIONING DOES NOT "CREATE" PURE
> CONSCIOUSNESS, PURE CONSCIOUSNESS CREATES BRAIN
> FUNCTIONING... Why MMY talks this fiction is beyond
> me. It must be useful for somebody listening. Does
> pure consciousness ceas
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> BRAIN FUNCTIONING DOES NOT "CREATE" PURE
> CONSCIOUSNESS, PURE CONSCIOUSNESS CREATES BRAIN
> FUNCTIONING... Why MMY talks this fiction is beyond
> me.
I've never heard him say that brain functioning
"creates" pure consciousn
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> --- suziezuzie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > From: "claudiouk"
> > Date: Wed May 9, 2007 2:28 pm
> > Subject: recent conference webcast doubts claudiouk
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I agree - the essential message about coherence and the use of the
whole brain and its effects on student health, learning readiness and
improved performance is all very impressive. Add to that the
Maharishi Effect on the social environment and yes the introduction
of TM in schools, along with
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