The question Why? springs to my lips. It seems to me
that your premise for thinking this is tied to attempts
to further (and constantly bring to the forefront of FFL
discussion) the Vaj Is A Liar meme that was started by
one person here and that now has a following of other
posters
..not sure what you ref. or offer [:D]
To lend beauty to the mouth and purify it, to destroy all foul
odour
or an offer to play
..it was deeply connected with enjoyment and erotic play, it is not
surprising to find frequent depiction of lovers sharing a betel roll or
offering it to each other,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:
..not sure what you ref. or offer [:D]
To lend beauty to the mouth and purify it, to destroy all foul
odour
or an offer to play
..it was deeply connected with enjoyment and erotic play, it is not
surprising to find
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@...
wrote:
Hey Steve, how come we haven't heard from Vaj? Just when he had an
opportunity to come clean and mop up the details of his messy business
with Robin, he went MIA. We haven't heard a peep out of him ever since
Ann assured him
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
I agree. Despite some of the sharp differences here, I think
everyone pretty much plays by the rules. So if you are going
to participate in a
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
snip
Hey Steve, how come we haven't heard from Vaj? Just when he
had an opportunity to come clean and mop up the details of his
messy business with
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
snip
Hey Steve, how come we haven't heard from Vaj? Just when he
had an opportunity
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
Raunchy, I don't think you're clear on this playing by
the rules thang that Steve referred to above. If what
you're hoping to achieve is to restart the tired olde
Vaj is a liar routine that you and Judy can't let go
of,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
snip
If you require instruction in how to do this properly,
Raunchy, you need look no further than Judy's most recent
reply to Curtis. It took her 4,564 words (including Curtis'
quotes, of course)
Actually Curtis and I split
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
If you require instruction in how to do this properly,
Raunchy, you need look no further than Judy's most recent
reply to Curtis. It took her 4,564
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
If you require instruction in how to do this properly,
Raunchy,
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
snip
If you require instruction in how to do this properly,
Raunchy, you need look no further than Judy's
: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
What is this continued focus on Judy and brainwashing? Brainwashing and cult
mentality, maybe. Brainwashing by Judy? You are affording her an
unbelievable amount of power, with this accusation. And, of course, you are
assuming the rest of us
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
What is this continued focus on Judy and brainwashing? Brainwashing and
cult mentality, maybe. Brainwashing by
Judy?
What leads you to believe that there is a difference?
When it comes to the brainwashing
).
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife
, objectively.
From: turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:31 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
What
Ha ha ha...see how funny it all is?
From: authfriend jst...@panix.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 2:51 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn
).
From: curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 1:42 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
What is this continued focus on Judy and brainwashing? Brainwashing and
cult mentality, maybe. Brainwashing by
Judy?
What leads you to
throw flower
petals at your pinky toe.
From: Emily Reyn emilymae.r...@yahoo.com
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
Judy, O Supreme
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
Judy, O Supreme True Believer...who are your mindless
followers on this forum? Â I need help with this.
Well, you for one. Also Ravi, Robin, futur_musik, Raunchy,
Nabby, Willytex, obbajeeba, merudanda. If you include
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@... wrote:
Judy, since you did enlighten me to the fact that I hadn't
quite followed the conversation correctly, I think I may
volunteer to be the first of your mind *less* followers.
Oh, I thought you already were! Shoot. Well,
I second that! : )
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
Judy, O Supreme True Believer...who are your mindless
followers on this forum? Â I need help with this.
Well, you for one.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@...
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
emilymae.reyn@...
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
Â
Judy, O Supreme True Believer...who are your mindless followers on this
forum? Â I need help with this. Â
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
Judy, since you did enlighten me to the fact that I hadn't quite followed
the conversation correctly, I think I may volunteer to be the first of
: Tuesday, January 31, 2012 3:00 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: can I be simple here?
Â
Judy, O Supreme True Believer...who are your mindless followers on this
forum? Â I need help with this. Â Â
From: authfriend jstein
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn emilymae.reyn@ wrote:
Judy, since you did enlighten me to the fact that I hadn't quite followed
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
I agree. Despite some of the sharp differences here, I think everyone
pretty much plays by the rules. So if you are going to participate in a
discussion, in which you have some insight, why not be a little more
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@...
wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ann. When others inevitably start
discussing this in the context you've provided, it will be interesting
to see what role the various players on FFLife decide to assume either
in defense of Vaj
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ann. When others inevitably
start discussing this in the context you've provided, it
will be interesting to see
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ann. When others inevitably
start
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ann. When others inevitably
start
Hey Stever, I am liking you more and more with every post. Those sharpshooters
are starting to look dangerous in that holster of yours.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@
wrote:
I'd ask Vaj to provide these details.
The question Why? springs to my
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@ wrote:
snip
I detect residual affection on Ann's part, if not so much
towards Robin, at least to the experience with Robin and WTS.
So do I. No problemo.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, raunchydog raunchydog@
wrote:
Thanks for the clarification, Ann. When others inevitably start
discussing this in the context you've provided, it will be interesting
to see
Barry,
I guess what I am saying is that if someone asked me about my time in the TMO,
I would answer them. It wouldn't make much difference to me if they were
asking out of curiosity, or if they were challenging me. Why wouldn't I
answer? There may be things, that looking back, I might have
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:
Barry,
I guess what I am saying is that if someone asked me about my
time in the TMO, I would answer them. It wouldn't make much
difference to me if they were asking out of curiosity, or if
they were challenging
I agree. Despite some of the sharp differences here, I think everyone
pretty much plays by the rules. So if you are going to participate in a
discussion, in which you have some insight, why not be a little more
forthcoming about it. These are event which took place 25 years ago.
No one is
Thanks for the clarification Vaj. The Sunnyside experience rather than the
place is what I am referring to here. The early days, the days before the
Americans got involved and the house was renovated. This was a whole new time,
a whole new process. It is like the difference between a group
On Jan 25, 2012, at 9:37 AM, awoelflebater wrote:
Thanks for the clarification Vaj. The Sunnyside experience rather
than the place is what I am referring to here. The early days, the
days before the Americans got involved and the house was renovated.
This was a whole new time, a whole new
That is an interesting book and a very good example of the intimacy of the
group because it basically contains letters Robin wrote to his friends during
that time (Vaj knows this but for others who have not read it). However I see
Vaj was unable to refrain from being a tad dramatic and,
On Jan 25, 2012, at 10:14 AM, awoelflebater wrote:
That is an interesting book and a very good example of the intimacy
of the group because it basically contains letters Robin wrote to
his friends during that time (Vaj knows this but for others who
have not read it). However I see Vaj was
I have been racking my brain on that one and, no, I can not. If it exists I
would have been on the other side of the camera taping it because between
attending every seminar and/or taping them I literally was there for everything
between 1983-1986. One thing I know for sure, it wasn't me.
---
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
[snip]
But I want to emphasize again, it's not fair to suggest that
Robin beat or deliberately harmed his students
I quite agree. I wish I could get my hands on the person
who aired that idea here and stank the place out.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
snip
There seemed to be some concern that I might either produce
this tape and digitize it, in an attempt to cause harm to
Robin in some manner or to simply prove that it, in fact,
did exist. I have no interest in any such thing.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj vajradhatu@... wrote:
snip
I'm still in the dark on later confrontations like the one you
mention. I did not know they were even going on that late.
Vaj isn't aware Robin's seminars at MIU involved confrontations?
Whatever Vaj believes he saw,
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@...
wrote:
Does this make a difference in the grand scheme of things? Do we now
brand Vaj a liar because according to my evidence it did not occur
when he said it did? Do we brand Robin a liar because hitting really had
occurred but
A very striking argument very much appreciated thank you.
(My father, acclaimed equestrian artist/teacher/horse whisperer in the
oldest equestrian Renaissance tradition of Haute Ecole, used to say a
person who loves horses has to be honest and good and to be trusted
and loved) [:)]
This
God, do I love that quote:
A person who loves horses has to be honest and good to be trusted and loved.
Thank you for that. It was worth the price of admission.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merudanda no_reply@... wrote:
A very striking argument very much appreciated thank you.
(My
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, awoelflebater no_reply@... wrote:
I know I have come into this whole argument late, like months late, and I may
be missing some essential pieces but bear with me. Robin's open letter admits
that he, in the most literal terms, hit people during the
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