One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is
overwhelming
compassion..
Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible?
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible?
George W. Bush, of course.
-Vaj Limbaugh
ahem
Actually those would just be *provisional* compassion.
-Vaj
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realiztic.
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Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr. Mahapatra
Let me get this right:
MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) with coronary
nah, they were just realistics.
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One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened being is
overwhelming
compassion..
Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible?
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The conclusion is that MMY is a profound paradox. If I
didn't have the experiences I've had around him and
through his techniques I would dismiss him as a fraud.
Also many great spiritual beings die and suffer
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The obvious conclusion is that MMY is a dreamer, but not very
realiztic.
Is this thought true?
Do we know for certain that this thought is true?
How do we feel when we think this thought?
(Not saying we *should*
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One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened
being is overwhelming
compassion.
A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of
yourSelf to the dustbin.
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One of the criteria I look for in an enlightened
being is overwhelming
compassion.
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A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of
yourSelf to
hat MMY is a dreamer, but not very
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6:32 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] My Dinner with Dr.
Mahapatra Let me get this right:
MMY is a diabetic (very treatable by Ayurveda BTW) w
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of
yourSelf to the dustbin.
Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's
where notion of permanent Self are ultimately bound.
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:43 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow,
but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall
remain here, not fully enlightened, so long as any sentient being
anywhere remains unenlightened.
Well, many are
On Apr 12, 2005, at 9:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions of
yourSelf to the dustbin.
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Enlightened-Mind possesses no real Self-Nature, so this is fine,
that's
where
Rory Goff wrote:
This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a
vow,
but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall
remain here, not fully enlightened, so long as any sentient being
anywhere remains unenlightened.
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
WHOSE Samsara?
Sentient Beings of the dimensions of conditioned existence.
In some cases
enlightened beings may divide into thousands of incarnations to
assist.
Universal janitors.
There is only one being, only one incarnation, only one
A noble aspiration, but one which will relegate large portions
of yourSelf to the dustbin.Enlightened-Mind possesses no real
Self-Nature, so this is fine, that's where notion of permanent Self are
ultimately bound.Moreover, the nature of the Absolute itself is compassion and wisdom.
WHOSE Suffering? WHO is
suffering?:-)---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I
go from thing to thing always wanting more. When I'm hungry I feel weak. When I
run out of weed my mind gets really pitta and feels like exploding. Like
now. No suffering? Good for you. The
Nobody does it.:-)--then who writes these
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:02 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
WHOSE Samsara?
Vaj [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sentient Beings of the dimensions of conditioned existence.
Wrong! Yours and Yours only. One sentient Being only! :-)
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Nobody does it.
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Precisely. It's
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Moreover, the nature of the Absolute itself is compassion and
wisdom.
Whoa. What Absolute? Anyone who says the Nature of the Absolute
is... and then goes on to fill in the blanks is a bald-faced liar.
Isn't he?
On Apr 12, 2005, at 10:39 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
Near Me? Who am I?
Keep asking. You'll get it.
AHAM or AHAR. You decide.
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Rory wrote:
WHOSE Suffering? WHO is suffering?
:-)
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---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from
thing to thing always wanting more.
Rory:
Bingo! Only I is suffering; the rest is a mirror. But actually,
no I don't. That is Self
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Nobody does it.
:-)
--then who writes these notes?
You?
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Whoa. What Absolute? Anyone who says the Nature of the Absolute
is... and then goes on to fill in the blanks is a bald-faced liar.
Isn't he? :-)
No
No? Yes? Any difference between the two? How can we
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
What You?
You = Rory
In what way are You and I different?
Keeping asking the previous question. Rory will get it (or That).
Eventually.
AHAM or AHAR?
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:09 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
What You?
You = Rory
In what way are You and I different?
Keeping asking the previous question. Rory will get it (or That).
Eventually.
AHAM or AHAR?
What is
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
What is Aham or Ahar?
Brahman.
What is Rory? What is That?
Brahman.
What is
eventually?
In what way is Rory different than Vaj?
Different obscurations.
I already know
the answer to these.
But Rory keeps asking.
Do you?
You
---You keep saying this. I am suffering, always. Always. I go from
thing to thing always wanting more. Rory:Bingo! Only "I" is
suffering; the rest is a mirror. But actually, no "I" don't. That is Self
(or non-self if you prefer) believing it is the dream, believing it is self,
the ego,
No? Yes? Any difference between the two? How can we
condition the Absolute? Doesn't that make it Relative? Aren't both of these
already just concepts, themselves conditioned?No more than a hole to fall into.
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:18 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
In what way is Rory different than Vaj?
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Different obscurations.
No obscurations! Only Vaj! All is Vaj!
I already know
the answer to these.
But Rory keeps asking.
On Apr 12, 2005, at 11:26 AM, Rory Goff wrote:
No obscurations! Only Vaj! All is Vaj!
I already know
the answer to these.
But Rory keeps asking.
Only Vaj is asking! Only Vaj is answering!
Do you?
You who?
Yoo-hoo! A festival of owls in an empty barn :-)
Yeah. Already knew That.
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I remember, but I have soo much energy that I'm going berserk
with it. Thanks for being so vast.
I do not have soo much energy; I am not going berserk; soo much
energy IS; berserkness IS. I am not vast, but you are
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Yeah. Already knew That. makes mudra of flipping booger from finger
*lol* Yeah, I am pretty smart, aren't I :-)
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On Apr 12, 2005, at 8:36 AM, off_world_beings wrote:
Mother Theresa? Bob Geldof? Mr. Incredible?
George W. Bush, of course.
-Vaj Limbaugh
ahem
Actually those would just be *provisional* compassion.
-Vaj
Mo
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on 4/12/05 9:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
There was a stretch in Seelisberg where he ate nothing but ice cream
for two
weeks.
Ahh, yes! The famous Seelisberg Diet Plan! Try it for two
It was good ice
cream. Hard to beat.
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Sent: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:30
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner
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It was good ice cream. Hard to beat.
I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever.
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It was good ice cream. Hard to beat.
I have never tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took forever.
Well not precisely *stir* -- I
on 4/12/05 10:18 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is
eventually? In what way is Rory different than Vaj? I already know
the answer to these. Do you?
There is only Vaj.
Don't you guys live in the same town? You ought to get
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on 4/12/05 10:18 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is Aham or Ahar? What is Rory? What is That? What is
eventually? In what way is Rory
: Tuesday, April 12, 2005 12:52
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner
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wrote: It was good ice cream. Hard to beat. I have never
tried to beat ice cream. Only to stir it. Took
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on 4/12/05 1:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought you were both in Portland.
Only Dana lives in Portland, and even he doesn't. I live in Saco;
Steve lives down (up) in Bucksport.
To
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Actually, if we all just did nothing, and let everything take care
of itself.
That would be nice.
That IS nice. Yes, it *does* take forever to stir (or churn) ice
cream. (Quite different from cream.) But it
God can't resist ice cream. Tell that to the
preacherman. While he's checking out the young boys.
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Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: My Dinner
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--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, rudra_joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow,
but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I shall
remain here, not fully enlightened,
Of course if one is enlightened, everyone is,
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u churn butter
*You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google image
search on ice cream churn and you will see the kind of machine I
used.
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This reminds me of the Bodhisattva Vow, which is really not a vow,
but an admission of a (slightly) flawed consciousness: I
Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a
brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence!Yes, I realize it
was not competition, just pure heartful discourse. Absolutely wonderful! The
play of life gracefully and elegantly compressed to one act. Bravo!
Bravo!Jim
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Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a
brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence!
Yes, I realize it was not competition, just pure heartful discourse.
Absolutely wonderful! The
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Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tennis match! What a
brilliant volley, sustained by Established Silence!
Yes, I realize
on 4/12/05 3:22 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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u churn butter
*You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google image
search on ice cream churn and you will see the kind of machine I
used.
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u churn butter
*You* may churn butter; *I* churned ice cream. Do a Google
This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons friend , it
was cobbled together from Trancenet material posted no later than Feb
14th, 1997. A site sponsored by Free Christian Software. Dr Mahapatra
had a webpage, you can see the google cache of which if you search.
(Dr. Gyanendra
Goff
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wrote: Thanks Kirk and Rory! Better than a table tenni
Ah so what,
Maharishi doesn't need any bad press, he has the MUM press corp. With his name
on it!
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on 4/12/05 3:41 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This wasn't written a year ago by this anonymous persons friend ,
Yes it was. I know who he's referring to. But I think what happened is that
Mahapatra has discussed this with various people, so it ended up on
Trancenet. He then said
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