on 6/22/05 7:56 AM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Don <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>
>> If you could mellow out the Winters and Summers, you could add one
> more old 'ru
>> to the population!
>
> Now that FF has a fantastic beach at Waterwo
--- TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Llundrub"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well, seems like some people in South florida have
> a
> > problem with this type of activity. So Kali yuga
> of
> > them, isn't it?
> >
> > --There are no hill
Rick Archer wrote:
> on 6/21/05 11:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Welcome back, Rory! You were in ff?
> >
> > Thank you, gf! Yes; was and am. FF just keeps getting better and
> > bett
on 6/21/05 11:30 PM, Rory Goff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, gullible fool <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>>
>> Welcome back, Rory! You were in ff?
>
> Thank you, gf! Yes; was and am. FF just keeps getting better and
> better. Now (somewhat to our surprise) we
Well, seems like some people in South florida have
aproblem with this type of activity. So Kali yuga ofthem, isn't
it?--There are no hills
in S Florida.
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Welcome back, Rory! You were in ff?
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> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> Sutphen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just came back from pushing an
--- sparaig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter
> Sutphen
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just came back from pushing an elephant uphill
> with
> > > my dick. I
--- authfriend <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > I just came back from pushing an elephant uphill
> with
> > my dick. It was surprisingly easy. Now I just have
> to
> > deal with all the legal ramifications.
>
I just came back from pushing an elephant uphill with
my dick. It was surprisingly easy. Now I just have to
deal with all the legal ramifications.
--- Llundrub <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But if one stands on a boulder then the elephant can
> lift it and one can push their dick in it and it can
Rick, I always liked your mom. Even as I write this I
can see and hear her. She had an unusual voice! She
always spoke so proudly of you and Carol.
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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>
> My mother was in and out of mental hospitals
> throughout most of my teenage
> years and early
on 6/21/05 12:02 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> My grandmother also suffered mental problems, in the
> American South, during the 30s. Her husband, ashamed
> that anyone associated with his family might be "crazy,"
> had her locked away in one of those snake-pit insane
> asylums f
Even now though you guys don't have a clue as to how to
prevent such things from happening again in the Movement.
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From: t3rinity
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, June 21, 2005 4:01 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In F
But if one stands on a boulder then the elephant can
lift it and one can push their dick in it and it can run up a hill. See, all
things work out in the end.
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From: lurkernomore20002000
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 11:25 PM
S
Just pointing it out so that you at least are aware of
your limitations. Honestly though, I always had a spot of envy for the true
believer. And also it's easy to deal with true believers because they will
never let you down. I was just playing Bob. To tell you to shut up is like
trying
You're like a freaking 45 single. One track one
track.
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From: bbrigante
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 6:55 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
"Llundrub" <[EMAI
Shut Up Just Shut Up! Shut the fuck up. Just shut
up for God's Sake. Shut Up!
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From: bbrigante
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 5:43 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Rick
Thanks for the feedback. He and I were always buddies on courses, took walks
together and stuff. So I was sad to hear the news. I hear that every year in
Rishikesh lots of people are carted away to mental hospitals who go crazy
doing sadhana.
on 6/20/05 3:49 PM, t3rinity at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrot
God bless Sten. This story always saddens me so much.
--- t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > on 6/20/05 2:26 PM, marekreavis at
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >
> > > Question re "immolated himself"(!): literall
on 6/20/05 2:26 PM, marekreavis at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Question re "immolated himself"(!): literally?
Yes.
>Do you know the
> reason why?
He got very out of balance. I don't know much more than that. Conny Larsson
may (fellow Swede).
>Do you know what the consequences were? And how
From: Bhairitu
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 10:39 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
Exactly and that is why you are using long mantras.
;-)The guru mantra is a mantra that has been passed down in a
tradition. It is the key mant
in books
>>because they are public and the author, if a disciple, can't reveal
>>
>>
>the
>
>
>>mantras his guru gave him.
>>
>>Llundrub wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>I have never had a guru.
>>>
>>>
>>>-
AM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
>
>
>Llundrub wrote:
>
>
>
>>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
>>
>>
>>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>
>> Yes, just OM!
>>
>>
egerd
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>Llundrub wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
>>>
>>>
>>>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTE
on 6/20/05 12:35 PM, Ingegerd at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I find it real peculiar that with the Householders Mantras, people
> try to live in celebacy and be a recluse. It does not make sense to
> me. If you meditate with a Householders Mantra, then you should be
> very active in society, otherw
gt;
Llundrub wrote:> > >Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing
techniques> >> >> >on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub
at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> >> >> > Yes, just
OM! > >> >> >So I wonder whether meditating on OM
by itself might make one a reclu
I have never had a guru.
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To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 8:42 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
Llundrub wrote:>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing
techniques>>>on 6/20
Llundrub wrote:
>Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
>
>
>on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
> Yes, just OM!
>
>
>So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while
>meditating with a longer mantra
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, just OM!
So I
wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while
meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend
suggested
On Jun 20, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Rick Archer wrote:
So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend suggested in the comment I posted here yesterday.
I know an entire group of people who use Au
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/20/05 10:05 AM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yes, just OM!
So I wonder whether meditating on OM by itself might make one a recluse while meditating with a longer mantra that contains OM might not, as my friend suggested in
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
Yes, just OM!
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From: Rick Archer
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Monday, June 20, 2005 9:49 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL
on 6/20/05 12:11 AM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>> This is all Vedic caste based shit, and is not the Dharma of
> Liberation which
>>> is free f
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Japa on Om.
Just OM by itself?
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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:26 PM
Subject: Re
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 6/19/05 11:24 PM, bbrigante at
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> >
> > Since you have at least partially spilled the
> beans on the A of E
> > techniques, would you be interested in saying if
> they were substituted
> > for the twenty minutes of TM, as
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/19/05 11:58
PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
This is all Vedic caste based
shit, and is not the Dharma of Liberation which is free from such meager and
worldly fears.
Amma said something like this too. That this OM
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/19/05 11:58 PM, Llundrub at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is all Vedic caste based shit, and is not the Dharma of Liberation which is free from such meager and worldly fears.
Amma said something like this too. That this OM prohibition
Bob, nothing you say about mantra is right because
you're a pundit and have no understanding of even the nyasa of one finger joint.
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From: bbrigante
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 11:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: balanc
on 6/19/05 11:24 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Since you have at least partially spilled the beans on the A of E
> techniques, would you be interested in saying if they were substituted
> for the twenty minutes of TM, as if they were advanced techniques? Or
> practiced for a couple
This is all Vedic caste based shit, and is not the
Dharma of Liberation which is free from such meager and worldly
fears.
Morover, Om has a residing element just as does any
other mantra, and so will benefit positively those of like element and curse
those of opposite element.
True c
Japa on Om.
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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/19/05 10:18 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:So what exactly is aumkara ka japa?--Rick
on 6/19/05 11:06 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> Whether these OM mantras in the Age of Enlightenment techniques were
> given only to Purusha wannabes or precursors, they stopped giving them
> out fairly quickly, right? And women never got the OM mantra A of E
> techniques, right?
I
on 6/19/05 10:18 PM, shukra69 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So what exactly is aumkara ka japa?
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on 6/19/05 9:06 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I emailed my friend who's sending me these daily OM mantras:
Some people on FFL are wondering about the OM issue (supposedly makes you a
recluse). Apparently you no longer buy that, or you wouldn¹t be sending
these out. My mantra (from Ammac
on 6/19/05 8:53 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Courcheval, Summer of '75.
>
> Possibly the thinking was that Purusha, or precursors of these recluse
> groups, were OK for using OM mantras?
Maybe. That wasn't explained to us. It was a pre-Purusha group. Mostly
former 108's, Intern
on 6/19/05 8:12 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> MMY once referred to himself as a householder when asked. It was on
> one of the more common tapes. Interestingly enough most people don't
> remember this. He had the most peculiar look on his face when he
> answered, as though he had nev
bbrigante wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>>
Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc.
>>>I will presume that none of these lad
on 6/19/05 7:41 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> on 6/19/05 10:56 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>> I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing
>>> outside of TM. Do yo
on 6/19/05 7:00 PM, akasha_108 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
>>
>>> There was no AUM in my A of E technique.
>>
>> The full technique has the mantras of the 7 lokas, each
Right like bhu bhuvaha maha janaha tapaha swaha
satyam?
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From: Vaj
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
Well there are--but there are four "above" it.On Jun
19
on 6/19/05 6:37 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
>> One thing I should point out is that this is NOT an
>> absolute in the
>> TMO. Those of us who received the full A of E
>> technique also received
>> the mantras of the 7 dimensions and they ALL begin
>> with AUM...
>
> There wa
on 6/19/05 6:13 PM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>> Ammachi, Shree Maa, Karunamayi, Mirabai, Mother Meera, etc. etc.
>
>
> I will presume that none of these ladies are recluses since you are
> mentioning Ammachi first, and she is clearly not a recluse. Anyway,
> what happens today in
Well, no. As I reported here many months ago, someone had told me the
story behind the Om. The basic moral of the story was that this applied
to this one person in one particular case.
On Jun 19, 2005, at 8:39 PM, sparaig wrote:
> Or perhaps you're assuming that what Gurudev said applied ONLY t
Well there are--but there are four "above" it.
On Jun 19, 2005, at 8:22 PM, Llundrub wrote:
> I thought there were three vyahrtis. You're not allowed to blow me out
> of the water. Please be kind to me and don't make me look like an
> idiot. ;)
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Well, in part, as in the the mantras of the triloka... +
4...the vyahrtis.On Jun 19, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Llundrub
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> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
> >
> > > There was no AUM in my A of E technique.
> >
> > The full technique has the mantras of the 7 lokas,
> each beg
Well, in part, as in the the mantras of the triloka... + 4...the
vyahrtis.
On Jun 19, 2005, at 8:08 PM, Llundrub wrote:
> As in the Gayatri?
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From: Vaj
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Sent: Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Peter Sutphen
wrote:> There was no AUM in my A of E technique.The f
On Jun 19, 2005, at 7:37 PM, Peter Sutphen wrote:
> There was no AUM in my A of E technique.
The full technique has the mantras of the 7 lokas, each beginning with
AUM.
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--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Jun 19, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Premanand Paul Mason
> wrote:
>
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote:
> >>
> >>> However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by
> Gurud
On Jun 19, 2005, at 4:01 PM, Premanand Paul Mason wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>
>> On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote:
>>
>>> However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by Gurudev indicating
> that
>>> he believed much the same thing? Th
on 6/19/05 2:07 PM, sparaig at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [...]
>> I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing
>> outside of TM. Do you?
>
> I believe that that is one of the things he claims is un
on 6/19/05 10:56 AM, Bhairitu at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>>
> I don't do know of any other tradition which believes this Om thing
> outside of TM. Do you?
No. And I asked Ammachi about it in a public lecture and she commented
rather forcefully about it for about 15 minutes (in favor of OM).
I don't do know of any other tradition which
believes this Om thing outside of TM. Do you?No, it's patent bullshit and pure TM
shell game.
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On Jun 19, 2005, at 3:07 PM, sparaig wrote:
> However, didn't Paul Mason post some quotes by Gurudev indicating that
> he believed much the same thing? This would explain where MMY got the
> idea...
>
Yes he did get it fr. SBS, but M. is generalizing something originally
intended for one woman
Rick Archer wrote:
>on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
>
>
>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>wrote:
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
I'm not sur
Llundrub wrote:
>> Plus advanced
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>Sorry, I'm probably confusing some here. In general, mantra shastra
>divides mantras between shakti and shiva mantras. Shakti mantras are
>considered more intense than shiva mantras and therefore usually not
>given to the general public.
on 6/19/05 2:08 AM, bbrigante at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> wrote:
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound;
>>>
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: balancing techniques
on 6/18/05 11:35 PM, Robert Gimbel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound;
I remember him saying that since it is an eternal sound and yet can only be chanted intermittently by a human
I think what Bob means is that if a person can hold a
house in one hand then they cannot use the mantra OM.
Oh, I see you used the plural - householders. In this
case the same applies. If one can hold a house in two hands then they
cannot use the mantra OM.
On the other hand, what cons
As far as ladies not using OM as a mantra, I have read a lot of Vedic
literature and I don't recall any (human) ladies following the recluse path
(although there were certainly some fascinating stories of ladies leading
their husbands to enlightenment like Queen Cuddala does for Sikhidvaja
I'm not sure what Maharishi has said about the AUM sound;
My understanding is it is associated with the Goddess Kali.
I can see why, Maharishi would say that married women,
should not relate to closely: to the insatiable Kali.
And the sound of Aum,
Is that Universal sound or vibration of C
> Plus advanced>
>Sorry, I'm probably confusing some here. In general,
mantra shastra divides mantras between shakti and shiva mantras.
Shakti mantras are considered more intense than shiva mantras and therefore
usually not given to the general public. This is held in a lot of
trad
cardemaister wrote:
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
>>shukra69 wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>
>>>
>wrote:
>
>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
TM mantras are mostly Shakti mantras and
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