ROFL! That is too funny!
elizabeth
On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Never tried A/D but the innova cat (red label) canned food SMELLS just
like
those little pots of deviled ham, and i did seriously consider spreading
some on a cracker and trying it. Now, dry
we ARE an odd group, aren't we? (like we needed this thread to realize
that?)
On 3/15/07, elizabeth trent [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
ROFL! That is too funny!
elizabeth
On 3/14/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Never tried A/D but the innova cat (red label) canned food SMELLS
I use Felidae. It is only a little more expensive than Iams and so much
better. Also, they have a breeder/rescue program where you get the 6th
bag/case free for every 5 you purchase.
Now, if I was going to pick the BEST cat food, I'd pick Innova Evo, but I
can't afford to feed it:(
On
Just wondered if anyone had any ideas about a good catfood for multiple cat households (14). Something that is good, yet not extremely expensive?
Thanks I will check this one out.
-Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Mar 15, 2007 7:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: any other suggestions besides Kirklands?
I use Felidae. It is only a little more expensive than Iams and so much better.
I think that it would help if you defined extremely expensive. Felidae is
about $30 for 20 pounds, plus tax. I have more than 14 cats and we go
through 16-20 pounds per week depending on how much wet they eat.
I added up how much it would cost me to feed Innova Evo once (going by the
Chicken Soup for the Catlover's Soul
Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I use Felidae. It is only a
little more expensive than Iams and so much better. Also, they have a
breeder/rescue program where you get the 6th bag/case free for every 5 you
purchase.
Now, if I was going to
On 3/9/07, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Debbie,
Where I live outdoor cats are all considered ferals. They don't count them
as part of the household. I found this interesting. A vet told me that. I
have always know we don't own cats they own us. My cats for the most part
have picked
Right now we probably spend around $100- $160.00 a month on catfood. I would not be oposed to spending even more if I thought it would help cut down on vet bills later. One of our cat is on S/O Diet for urinary track. It runs $30.+ a bag.
-Original Message- From: Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL
My first FeLV kitty we treated with Doxy just in case it was Hemobart. She
collapsed and threw up after I gave her her meds one day and we rushed her to
the Emergency vet to have her PTS. She was in great pain. We think she got a
clot in her leg. This is why I am hesitant to medicate these cats
On 3/15/07, Gussies mom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My first FeLV kitty we treated with Doxy just in case it was Hemobart. She
collapsed and threw up after I gave her her meds one day and we rushed her
to the Emergency vet to have her PTS. She was in great pain. We think she
got a clot in her leg.
I have to drive quite a way to get this, but when I can I pick this up as a
treat. My cats eat it like it's kitty crack.
Susan Hoffman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chicken Soup for the Catlover's Soul
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No need to miss a message. Get email on-the-go
with Yahoo!
Year ago I accidentally took a pill that was being given to one of my
cats for something. It was being given to him for some persisting
problem that he had but its normal use had something to do with feline
procreation. Anyway I took it by accident. I called Poison Control too
they laughed
This is good news! How do you arrange for that?
Pam
Kelley Saveika wrote:
I use Felidae. It is only a little more expensive than Iams and so
much better. Also, they have a breeder/rescue program where you get
the 6th bag/case free for every 5 you purchase.
Now, if I was going to pick the
*In our rescue we adopted out a kitten, who came back to us FeLV+. When our
volunteer went to pick him up, he had been kept outside and now has
pneumonia. He is a sweet little six month old orange tabby. He's eating on
his own, but breathing heavily and she said she can hear that his chest is
On 3/15/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
This is good news! How do you arrange for that?
Pam
Here is the application form:
http://www.canidae.com/company/forms/email-breeder.html
--
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.
http://www.rescuties.org
Hi, Leslie - I just had to go through this with one of my kitty's s- a
couple of things
You must make sure that a kitty is well hydrated all the time (per my
vet) - so giving a fluid might be necessary - at the same time, if there
is a lot of fluid you also may have to give him a bit of lasix to
remembering the time i accidentally used my eyedrops for the cats
instead of theirs and calling the vet in a panic. my eye doc got a huge
kick out of it when i told him, too--both said there was no problem. well,
what can i say, both sets of drops were in that same little plastic
Linda, do you know if their protocol just starts the cats out on monthly doses
or if they do something like daily for some time then weekly, finally going to
monthy?This is the way Immunoregulin is done if administered IV or subQ. I
really like the IM idea -- probably works better than
Don't ask me My furbabies ALWAYS come first. (Spend more on their
groceries than for myself..)
I feed them ALL Innova Evo. Even the stray/feral colony
What can I say My furbabies definitely deserve the best, even if it's
pricey. And they absolutely love it! Gives
You really should have a vet that will work with you with FeLV+...
Interferon is a basic immune booster that FeLV+ cats need anytime they
are fighting anything...
Imunor Regulan has been reported very successful with respiratory
problems...
But you do need a vet that will work with you on these
From what I've read I believe that they only give the
drug IM once per month. They did not mention
following a protocol like the one for the IV
administration.
About a week after my first email they did sent this
information:
Hi Linda,
Here is some more input from one of our staff vets.
Linda, thanks for passing on the info from Best Friends. That was nice
of them to follow up with you.
If anyone is interested here's my 2 cents reaction... If I had a
situation that I was hoping IR would save my cat's life, then I'd take
them to the vet and get it administered IM. If I had
Hi Cassandra,
Yes, I buy my salmon oil at the health food store. I have a cat on my
lap, so I can't go get the name brand for you right now, but it's 100%
wild salmon oil, no additives or other ingredients. They are gel caps
that I puncture with a pin. I add it to a homemade food that I
Oops, sorry I meant take them to the vet and get it administered IV.
N
Nina wrote:
Linda, thanks for passing on the info from Best Friends. That was
nice of them to follow up with you.
If anyone is interested here's my 2 cents reaction... If I had a
situation that I was hoping IR would
Use the merial PUREVAX brand FELV vaccine, it is the safest one. I do think
that FIV+
cats who may be exposed should be vaccinated (once, no boosters needed). FIV
makes a
cat more prone to contract other things, including FELV.
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat
why just once? doesn't it take two doses to establish immunity?
and, from experience, FIV cats are as likely to throw off FeLV as healthy
cats. in fact, FIV cats are HEALTHIER, in almost every sanctuary setting,
than strays and ferals are.
On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I'm going to go get my last cat food bill (I go twice a month)
Ok, according to my math, I use 4-5 cases of wet California Natural or
Innova a month at $13.93 each. I use 4 bags of healthwise for the ferals at
$17.09 each, and I use one bag of either California Natural or Innova Senior
dry a
Immunoregulin and Feline Interferon Omega (must be imported) both would be
good options for him. Both require a cooperative vet though. Definitely
start antibiotics for the pneumonia if not already. You should consider
supplementing him with Lysine as well (this you CAN do without a vet).
I personally don't believe in boosters. There's been no research done to
show they are required, as far as I am aware of. There have been studies
done that show that single vaccinations do produce immunity though. Please
share the studies if you know of any that suggest otherwise, as I am going
on
we're not talking about BOOSTERS, but the initial series of
innoculations. i know that when distemper was brought into the
sanctuary, adult cats who had only had one shot as an adult (as we didn't
know, of course, if they'd ever had their full series of kitten shots)
DIED many rescues
saw this, and it's got me to wondering, as I thought meal was a way to get
cheap by-products into foods, and not better than meat... opinions?
What does the real difference mean to your pets and you?
Meat
[Chicken Lamb are 70% water and only 15% protein]
Pet food labels found in grocery and mass
what was number 3???
TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: okay, i promised to look this up
this was from last week's Chat Week chat with Marty Becker, DVM (of ABC-TV and
Chicken Soup... fame)
handsmom: I have an Abby and she has gotten a large bald spot from constantly
licking. What
i don't remember! i was just looking for the name of the drug--here's the
full transcript:
http://www.pethobbyist.com/articles/TranscriptSpadaforiBecker.html
here's the link to the all the chat-week events, and their transcripts:
On 3/15/07, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
what was number
Oh NOoo! hahahaha! I'm glad you were ok.that comment about the
kittens is just hysterical though.
elizabeth
On 3/15/07, Pam Norman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Year ago I accidentally took a pill that was being given to one of my
cats for something. It was being given to him for some
Any shot given after the first shot is a booster shot, as it boosts the
first one. There are studies that show that single doses of vaccines are
effective, though not all are CAT studies, but the immune system works much
the same in all mammals:
http://www.heska.com/ultranasal/pr_info.asp (proven
i'm certainly not sold on the need for a full series of everything, but i DO
know that a single adult dose didn't protect against distemper, but that's a
particularly nasty little buggie--i know of other rescues that've had that
experience with it, too. as for other things, i have little doubt
Albacore tuna in a can, specifically the Wal Mart brand for some reason jump
starts our cats to eat when sick. It has never failed us yet.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 3:53 PM
To:
I was looking for various alternatives to clay litter in the pet store and
what they had seemed to be rather expensive. I noticed one kind though,
called Elegant Cat which is a flushable green cat litter that seemed
reasonably priced. Have you heard of this type of litter? I haven't been
I have to disagree with some of the below. It is nice to want to feed your
cats the very best, however circumstances beyond some peoples control make
that impossible. Often times cats find people, people do not go out looking
to adopt cats. There is a HUGE overpopulation of cats and in my opinion
http://www.wbns10tv.com/?sec=homestory=sites/10tv/content/pool/200703/1765432341.html
just HAPPENED to have the link to the story of that woman in my clipboard
when i read this
i've stayed out of this one, because most people already know how i feel,
and about my financial
I'm sure it varies vaccine to vaccine. Regardless... I wont vaccinate except
for one time (except rabies, where I have some legal consequences involved
if I don't). That being said, I quarantine any new cats that come in, just
in case. The thing is, some of the things we vaccinate for are not
contact them and ask what's in it:
http://www.elegantcatlitter.com/contactus.htm
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources
This is v e r y interesting...and something I had never considered.
elizabeth
On 3/15/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
saw this, and it's got me to wondering, as I thought meal was a way to
get cheap by-products into foods, and not better than meat... opinions?
What does the
should mention also that with his raw food I mix in L-Lysine, Vitamin C, and
Gentle Digest. He won't eat his dry food if I add those things so he's not
getting them right now. But he has been getting them for several months. FYI.
Thanks!
MJ
-
We
Hi all. I'm so sorry I haven't been able to keep up with the listserv. I've
been overwhelmed with work and life...and everything kind of got away from me!
For any who've lost kitties or whose fur babies are sick, my thoughts and
prayers are with you.
Please send thoughts and prayers to
Yeah, that;s the big problem, most of the alternative litters are much more
expensive. That's the main reason I switched to Pine shavings, it's just so
economical. I've had no issues with toxicity, allergies, etc - and one of my
cats is
highly allergic to almost everything, he loves to dig and
I bring home $180-$210 a week. My partner works on and off, sometimes he
brings home $300 a week, sometimes less than $80 (usually around $100-$150).
My rent is $650 a month. I will not feed my cats crap just because I am
poor. My son gets free breakfast and lunch at school. Sometimes we eat beans
distemper is a very nasty death, tho.. that's one i just won't mess
with and while a lot of the deaths were kittens, there were a lot of
adults who went too. but it's very different when you're not talking a
multi-cat environment, or taking in rescues, or fosters..
On 3/15/07, [EMAIL
All depends on where you live. Not everyone gets food stamps, nor does
everyone even own a car, some people have tons of medical expenses……….you do
what you can with what you have. For the extra money and expensive food you
can’t buy you give them extra love.
-Original Message-
From:
At 12:19 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
The question is, if you take the trouble to go to the vet then why
not give it IV the way it is intended to be given,, that has the
accurate dosing . plus many drugs can be given iV but cause problems
given IM or SUB q as it can cause tissue damage,
I have
I'll be sending positive energy for Slinky. I don't have anything to
suggest, home sub-q fluids might be helpful if his fever spikes again.
Phaewryn
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Special Needs Cat Resources
At 01:32 PM 3/15/2007, you wrote:
Please do not equate the dollars spent with the
quality, there is no corn in KIRKLAND,
Ingerdients are Chicken, chicken meal. whole grain brown rice .chicken fat ..
As I said, I have tried others but this has been
the best for them, Regarding money spent,
Hi Leslie -- I'll contact Jill and see if she knows any vets that will treat an
FeLV kitty. I don't know if I'd play around with that one myself. I'll ask
around as well. Hope you're well -- PAT
Leslie Lawther [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:In our rescue we adopted out a
kitten, who came back
And then you have those cats that simply WILL NOT eat the good
stuff, I can beg until I'm blue in the face, I have a few who will eat
anything BUT I have a couple who will stop eating if I only put down the
good stuff, they just won't have it. I make the change gradually,
teaspoon at a time
I am in a position of needing to place my FELV+ quickly.
I must move by May 1st, and he doesn't get along with my other FIV+ Geriatric
cat. I will be moving into a small studio and working 2 jobs to keep my head
above water. I can not afford a second cat.
He's scheduled to be neutered next
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