Marissa,
What a WONDERFUL & UPLIFTING story
Dr. G. sounds awesome
I know that there are (a few) great vets out there, mine being one of them.
( I have to "drive"[not anymore] over 1 1/2 hours to see him). And, I've
had (too) much contact w/ the "other" ones sadly
I was not aware
Even here in Pa. ALL rabies vx.'s MUST be given by vet
And, I know that only too well - working for vets, volunteering @
shelter.
NO EXCEPTIONS!
And, being (prior MVA), I was (am) a licensed vet tech.
And, I also worked for vet in Maryland - same thing
Sure, I can give r
yeah, but we don't count--we're just the taxpayers, silly!
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Scary! WE handled it as well, as the humans who FED it to the animals
that died.
Phaewryn
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I just remembered something that I've used in my feral bedding... I
looked for age warnings and didn't see any, (but I'm tired and the print
is small). If you're considering it, you might want to contac
Even liberal California requires vet involvement in the rabies vaccine. Even
if a vet tech gives the actual injection, the vet has to oversee and verify.
It's the vet's license number on the rabies certificate.
Don't make assumptions where vaccines are mandated by law. You have to check
Scary! WE handled it as well, as the humans who FED it to the animals that
died.
Phaewryn
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Wow, I wish I could find a vet like that. It sounds like she really cares
about animals.
I hope you find your Georgia soon. Keep us updated.
Cassandra
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Those walking jackets look really neat, I may order one of those. The savannah
cats on that site sure are beautiful also.
Cassandra
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no comment. absolutely none whatsoever.
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More at www.itchmo.com
Full story:
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is pets alive the one that best friends has come in to help?
spring farm cares is, i THINK, way upstate.
On 5/9/07, Patricia Lamoretti <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you. With what's going on at Pets Alive, I don't know if they'd
take another animal. They're trying to get everyone back
Thank you. With what's going on at Pets Alive, I don't know if they'd take
another animal. They're trying to get everyone back on track and healthy.
Animal Haven doesn't have space and I don't know spring farm cares so I'll give
it a shot. Thanks again -- PAT
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Try calling:
http://www.petsalive.com/
http://www.animalhavenshelter.org/
http://www.springfarmcares.org/animalsanctuary.htm
Those are 3 no kill shelters in NY.
Here's the whole list if she's close to a bordering state:
http://ucat.us/NoKillSanctuaries.html
Phaewryn
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the other kind are like horse blankets, almost--and secured in such a way
that one could NOT get out of them..
the only thing that brendan can't get out of is one of the HEAVY-DUTY (read,
mountaineering-strength fibre) harnesses with a chest band and under-the-leg
band.
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL
Personally, they are cute, but I wouldn't trust them. If it's not buckled
around the neck so tight their head can't get through using an unbreakable
fabric and a sturdy metal buckle, I'm not going to trust it. I used to take
my cats out in both a harness and a secondary collar, and I ran a "panic"
This is my daughter Amber with one of my dad's rehabilitated coons:
http://ucat.us/AmberRaccoon.jpg
I carbon copied this to the FELVOT list, so we could take this OT discussion
over there. :-)
Phaewryn
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http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=2&cat=1588&articleid=598
Lists all the facts about how the various insecticides work
http://www.purepet.com/oflea.html
Is the natural flea shampoo I was thinking might be safe for smaller
kittens, but their website doesn't say.
http://www.petedge.com/sh
I just received a call from a friend who has been trying to help an elderly
woman place a FeLV/FIV positive cat. The elderly woman has a cat of her own.
She's convinced her husband that she can find a home but time is running out.
She has to leave town on Monday to provide healthcare for her s
halleluia, sister!
(yeah, i'll go to bed now.)
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Every "what if" I have experienced in the past brought me to a new
awareness in the present, even though the lessons were hard, I learned from
them. "What if" I had just taken that extra few
before the advent of topicals, i used to use the zodiac line of premises
spray all over the house--kills eggs and larva for 210 days.. you still
have to do some spot killing in really bad years, but it REALLY helps if
you're bringing in strangers.
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTE
other options are walking jackets--phaewyrn, you'll LOVE this one
not as substantial as the ones i was thinking about but meowzers' isn't
on-line now so i can't get the link. she's got one for her HUGE maine
coon, and it had a "handle" on the back so there's this GREAT photo of her
hubby
now most vets are afraid to do that--i have friends who just lost one
because, tho they've have them for years, since it's become illegal in their
state, the vets can loose their licenses. in MI, rehabbers can still take
them in, but even they won't give you their vets' names
ferrets, and hyb
I posted this to the OT group earlier today, but I guess not everyone has
joined it, so here it is here:
Terramycin eye antibiotic ointment for under $9:
http://www.petedge.com/shopping/product/detailmain.jsp?itemID=2336&itemType=PRODUCT&iMainCat=306&iSubCat=317&iSubSubCat=320&iProductID=2336
A c
Reader's digest would love that story, I bet, especially after you get your
kitty back and there's a happy ending!
For future reference, and to everyone else on the list, please don't use
"cat" figure 8 style harnesses. They have a DESIGN FLAW and cannot possibly
be trusted to ever hold a squirmin
I think I like your Dad,
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who
With that in mind I think a lot of farm stores sell it too. Good thought.
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity, you will have men who
And lots of prayers. Do you have any animals who might talk with her and help
guide her home?
If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of compassion
and pity
My dad rehabbed orphaned baby coons illegally for about 6 years in
Tennessee, his vet would CALL him when one came in, and they would fake it's
death on paperwork, and smuggle it to my dad's farm.
Phaewryn
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That's the problem, the warning is buried in two pages of TINY text in the
package insert. Not even the vets bother to read it:
http://www.revolution4cats.com/docs/pdf/FullInfill.pdf
My favorite flea product is a shampoo by Zodiac called fleatrol. It's a
shampoo, and it kills fleas and ticks while
Which litter? I think the oldest are as old as 8, maybe 9 weeks even.
The youngest were born on Easter, which would make them a bit over 4
weeks.
No more in my huose for a while, but I was so
happy to get a new foster today. We were able to rescue a singed
kitten found in s
2 lbs does seem large.. I think other products might be able to be used
before then. How old are they now? I know you've said it like 50 times, but
I'm such a black hole. :-)
Phaewryn
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Every "what if" I have experienced in the past brought me to a new awareness
in the present, even though the lessons were hard, I learned from them.
"What if" I had just taken that extra few minutes to check on Kiki that
night, rather than going to bed because I was too tired to feed him? Would I
h
WRONG WRONG WRONG--in most states, unless it's been given by a licensed vet,
it doesn't count. you could have the vial in your hand, and the cat is
considered unvaccinated. you can BUY it, but most of the places that
sell it have disclaimers about it being not having any standing in law.
On 5
My thoughts about FELV and euth'ing them just because of the test results
are this:
Isn't every moment in life a moment for a discovery, a moment to find joy, a
moment to know what it is to be loved? Is it fair for us to take ANY of
those moments away from any living thing just because they MIGHT
They've thought of that. We can give FELV and FVRCP vaccines, but
rabies shots must be administerd by a veterinarian (not even a vet
tech...a veterinarian licensed to practice in the state of TX) or they
don't count. I also cannot legally place a cat over the age of 3
months without a valid rabi
That is EXACTLY the attitude you NEED to have! At least you gave them a
CHANCE! I agree with your vet.
Phaewryn
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"I don't think the law requires the vet to give it. The pet is
required to have it regardless, which would make the responsibility
fall on me."
In that case, order the vaccine online, pull it up into a syringe, and
squirt it down the toilet, and call the cat "vaccinated". No-one can say you
DIDN'
There are slight positives and strong positives. That is true, however, this
vet is crazy, even allowing that she is right about that! You took an
INJURED cat to her, and she did NOTHING to treat the INJURIES, but instead
let the cat sit in a cage suffering for 4 hours and then the ONLY thing she
d
Thanks, Marylyn! I've tried most of that (all except the KFC). That first
night when she got out, I actually spent the whole night in the park...I came
home and got my sleeping bag and slept on the ground. I did see her around 9
or 9:30, but didn't see her again after that. I thought I saw h
Re Georgia from experience with Dixie:
You are frightening her. Go there and sit/nap/read whatever and she may well
come to you. Leave lights on and doors open at home as well as food and forget
the AD--try KFC or something much more special at the house. AD is fine in the
field but home is
Hi all! I just thought you might like to hear an uplifting story about a
PHENOMINAL vet (seems we get to hear a lot about not-so-good vets...thought I'd
share a good story). It's kinda long, but trust me...it's worth the read!
You all may remember that I found a new vet after Slinky had h
Unfortunately, in addition to rabies, coons get canine distemper which many
people think is rabies. When this happens in a populated area here, coons
are fair game. For the sick ones, it is probably merciful but for the
healthy ones it is hell.
CROSSPOST RESPONSIBLY
http://www.petconnection.com/blog/
today's blog (wednesday, may 9, 2007) by christie keith has some GREAT links
in it to "classic" explanations (and spins) that have come out of the mess
so far. if you haven't read some of the references yet, you might want to.
she makes r
I can't imagine telling anyone to have a baby animal killed and its
head cut off. I just could not do it.
Fortunately he didn't.
On 5/9/07, MaryChristine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
that's not just texas--more and more places in the country are just euthing
raccoons on general principles now. ev
that's not just texas--more and more places in the country are just euthing
raccoons on general principles now. even states where rehabbers could take
them in aren't allowed to anymore..
MC
On 5/9/07, Kelley Saveika <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
they are rabies phobic here.
I have a friend w
they are rabies phobic here.
I have a friend who had a family member find a blind baby raccoon. He
called all kinds of vets and they all said he had to have the raccoon
killed and the head sent off to san angelo for rabies testing.
On 5/9/07, Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
That verbiage is
That verbiage is a lot more in line. I had a vet here give the vaccination
to a feral cat that was recovering from a pretty serious injury after I told
his wife, the tech, not to vaccinate. I can't stand it when they take it
on themselves to decide something like that. Needless to say I will
Zithromax is considered safe for pregnant and nursing moms. I googled it once
upon a time and found the information (breeder related but it may be on the
manufacturer's packaging.) ust google it and you'll find it. Your vet is
definitely wrong on this one.
I have also used Advantage on
we are SUCH an odd group of people.
On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
The vet I worked for use super glue exclusively instead of tissue glue.
In fact, we once ran out in the middle of puppy dew claw removal, and I had
to run to the store and buy a tube! It's also a grea
Yep, there's a 'bus' with your name on it out there somewhere. Now that
is guaranteed.
N
MaryChristine wrote:
and the real thing that people keep forgetting is that there are no
guarantees for the kitties who DON'T have FeLV! your $2,500 showcat
can fall over permanently from HCM, anyone can
and the real thing that people keep forgetting is that there are no
guarantees for the kitties who DON'T have FeLV! your $2,500 showcat can fall
over permanently from HCM, anyone can throw a blood clot, etc. same with
people--if we stop loving other living things because they're gonna get sick
and
I know, Nina. I'm not good at making these decisions. Why can't they
be 2 lb already, g.
On 5/9/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Kelley,
This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem. If
your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more
problems t
Kelley,
This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem. If
your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more
problems than the risks of treating them, (I'm sure you know that
kittens can develop anemia from the little blood suckers). I know these
guys h
This totally makes sense because the 6 month old kitty
I have who is fighting a URI was also given Revolution
after he was neutered last Friday. He has since lost
some hair and has redness on the sides of him. I plan
to call MY vet today to ask about them because I want
to make sure they won't ge
You need a different vet. He's done two tests, with conflicting results, and
no tests on the kittens, and let he's advocating euth? He's NUTS. Period.
NO, that's not the right thing to do, and NO that's not the usual course of
action. You have an INCOMPETENT VET!
Phaewryn
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I'm a keeshond fan myself, closely related in the Spitz family.
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Is this source online? If so, where? I'm buying mine
for $17.99 + tax!
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> I've been told by a country vet that Neosporin is
> safe to use in animal's
> eyes as well. I don't, I buy terramycin (I found a
> source for only $8 a
> tube), but it's
I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats.
Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember. My poor nursing
mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done.
I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and
bathing them, and
The vet I worked for use super glue exclusively instead of tissue glue. In
fact, we once ran out in the middle of puppy dew claw removal, and I had to
run to the store and buy a tube! It's also a great thing to have on hand in
any human emergency kit for the same reason. I use it all the time to gl
My vet puts it much less eloquently. I go in there at least once a
week all upset saying "I'm doing X, Y and Z. I don't know what to
do." He always says "It's a virus. There's nothing you CAN do."
(which is not entirely correct, there are supportive things and immune
boosting things, etc - but
Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's totally
NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or kittens.
We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label
changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that warning (it
Deb,
You are afraid of mixing because the danger is real. Your household is
indicative of that. We might never know how it is that you have 3
previously believed neg cats testing pos. Was the disease dormant in
their systems before they came to you, are they in the process of
clearing the v
Hi Deana,
Very glad to hear you are finding a new vet. I rescued a litter born of a
feral mom who tested negative (we had her spayed and released). One sick
baby tested positive right away, the other 4 tested negative. The sick one
developed FIP and had to be pts (but at least had some quality
Thanks Nina. I actually called my vet and talked to
my favorite vet tech and not once did she mention PTS.
She explained to me about the disease and told me
about a kitten she had that was positive and she had
to find a home for but other than that there was NO
talk of PTS. Any vet that tells pe
Phaewryn,
I don't know. He did tell me we could run a bunch of tests, but that
he wouldn't. He would treat for the symptoms, and he also constantly
tells me not to beat myself up too much.
I could spend hundreds of dollars trying to figure out what is wrong
with a 3 week old kitten, or I could
Hurray! Thank you for reminding me once again how the rewards of being
a member of this list outweigh all the heartache we endure. It's filled
with people just like the two of you. People that put their intuition
and heart before the advice of others that don't know any better, or
have found
I know we often tell people to get new vets, but I would not change
vets if someone held a gun to my head..he is better than sliced bread
and cheese. I love him.
The law here does NOT allow titers. There are NO waivers, from
anything I can tell. I take a chance not vaccinating Missy either
way
Certainly there is some way to know WHICH virus it is other than necropsies?
Some sort of DNA test maybe - that you could do on a live cat with a blood
sample?
Phaewryn
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Ok, all kittens seem MUCH better. I have an adult that refuses to be
syringe fed - she vomits it back up..so I drop bits of food in her
mouth "baby bird" style and she eats them..that zithro is a miracle
cure, I swear.
I really could use your help with a treatment protocol for tinies..I
do not w
There *is* such a thing as "light positive", though I've never been
able to pin down what it means, even after having a kitten test light
pos.
Protocol is not to test again immediately, though, it is to wait 6
weeks, then test. Then if pos again test w/IFA.
I've never heard the term "more posit
Scream!
Shadowcats here is one. They are also the best known feral group in
our area by far...which means when they teach TNR to people..they
teach it is *unethical* to not kill asymptomatic FELV+ cats...
Although they do not euth for FIV and may not even test for it.
They *do* euth asymptomat
Deana,
I foster cats and I have had 2 test slightly positive and we always wait
(though I guess they could not do that with the momma) a few weeks before we
retest. On retested negative and one retested positive. And when they retest
positive with the snap test we then always do the test
Hey, Deb - I also mix my negatives and positives -- and don't isolate anyone
who is coughing, etc. I figure that everyone has been exposed anyhow and it is
probably viral -- and strict isolation isn't possible at my house. I've never
been sorry that I've done it this way.
Deb Stockbridge <[EM
Hi Nina,
I Love to hear more and more experiences from all of you that mix negatives and
positives...it's building my confidence more each day. What I need to know is
do you still keep them together if one still has a persistent cough that just
won't clear even after treatment or if one sneeze
Hi Deana,
Like you, I am new to this as well. My friend and I
rescued a momma kitty with 6 kittens and a 6 month old
boy. The boy turned up negative but the momma turned
up positive. We were told by other rescuers to have
all of them PTS, but my friend and I just couldn't do
it. We didn't feel
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