Farzan S <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> As a statistician, I must agree with David. Really, this is a futile
> exercise and drawing conclusions based on it would be a mistake.
Oh, come on. If that's the only "right" attitude we might as
well all unsubscribe from the mailing list because any inform
> You could always go back to keeping quiet :)
"Speech is silver, silence is golden" :-)
> Umm, when you crop an image, the file size goes down. I imagine that since the
> ss4000 has a higher resolution it will have a bigger file size.
> Why don't you do a your own scanner test (since you
sirius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Doing testing by scanning just any peoples slide doesnt make any sense and
> makes the tests in my opinion pretty worthless.
The point of scanning other people's slides was to scan a slide which was
causing
problems on one scanner to see if the same problems oc
Bill Ross wrote:
> I've discovered that places with drum scanners normally output
> only 24bit images - in California, at any rate: Calypso, West
> Coast Imaging, The New Lab. According to WCI, which has a Tango
> scanner, the only way to output 48bit is with PC-based Linocolor
> software (not M
Ed,
ICE is a proprietory technology that Nikon purchases from a company Applied
Science Fiction.
David
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 3:21 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Canoscan FS2710
Does the Canoscan FS27
Ed wrote:
> Does the Canoscan FS2710 have ICE??
No.
> If so, was it Nikon technology?
No, it was licensed to Nikon by the company that wrote it.
> Is it the same in every scanner? Meaning if a scanner has
> ICE, is it universal in what it does?
If it *is* ICE(tm), yes. But various scanners
Steven (Alex) Alexander II <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> One thing that I wasn't happy about is that some of the negs are
SCRATCHED -
> GR. I don't know what to do about that, except to demand my moolah
back
> for those rolls.
I was convinced that my nearly new MZ5 was scratching films until I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> The light in
> the middle of the film is usually 20% brighter than the light at
> the edges. The intensity calibration takes care of this.
Do you know of any scanners that use a physical means to even out the light, Ed?
It seems to me that the Cos^4 effect could b
Pretty sure that the PC version is a newer one,is the samt with Linocolor
for the "lowend" machines, it is not possible to get 48bit raw scans from
Mac, but PC is just fine !
Hope this helps !
Br, Stefan
on 9/19/00 1:21 AM, Bill Ross at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I've discovered that places w
The purpose of underexposing the white paper is to turn it into a gray card
but with a test pattern on it.
Why won't a piece of white paper under exposed by 2-1/3rd stops produce the
same exposure as an 18% gray card?
To find the magnification or (ratio of object size to image size on the film
"Hemingway, David J" wrote:
>
> Arthur,
> I don't think it is as much an issue of manufacturers "misrepresentation" as
> much as it is we just don't talk to each other. I know Polaroid is usually
> conservative in their specs, much to the consternation of our sales folks. A
> good example of th
While trying to find information at the Adobe site about the
posterization problem I was experiencing with 16 bit/channel scans, I
happened upon some information I was totally unaware of regarding how
Photoshop uses scratch disk space. I have yet to read this information
anywhere else, and it m
I wrote
>> The Minolta software for my Elite allows
>> the output of 16 bit raw data (and also ships
>> with a corresponding profile so this data can
>> be easily converted into the working space
>> in Photoshop).
Mark Ligtenberg asked:
> Is the orange mask of the color negative
> filtered out
> I agree conclusions shouldn't be spread afar until all the data is in.
> Certainly it is far too early to be making any final conclusions with less
> than
> 10% of the data available.
You have passed comments good/bad/indifferent it matters not on at least two
scanners and only 10% of the data
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Sent: Monday, September 18, 2000 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: Group Scan site has posted SS4000 scans
> The best way to see if the hardware has noise is to carefully
> analyze the raw scan from the scanner. Just get a his
I know this may invoke some passionate responses but has anybody in this
group actually experienced the Epson 1270 orange cast problem mentioned?
I've read all the info provided in the links given but I've never actually
experienced the problem myself. Am I in the lucky minority or am I not
examin
~A~ wrote, re W2000 and FS2710:
>Yes, I have had to deal with the same problem. I found the solution on the
>Australian Canon website. The solution is to install two scsi updates and
>then the canoscan software (after which you can install VueScan if ya want).
I thought I had used the procedure
I wrote:
>> The Minolta software for my Elite allows
>> the output of 16 bit raw data (and also
>> ships with a corresponding profile so this
>> data can be easily converted into the
>> working space in Photoshop).
Mark Ligtenberg asked:
> Is the orange mask of the color negative
> filtered ou
Ed,
Thanks for clarifying what Vuescan does (and doesn't) do with the raw
data. As you say, when the Minolta Elite driver does it's raw
(linear) scan, it may be doing some adjustments. Certainly, once the
white point levels in the Vuescan raw scan have been adjusted in the
individual channe
Yes, but it seems to me the useful output will be
*combinations* of subject type, film, exposure, processing,
and scanner that have been demonstrated to give good
results.
Extrapolating from those to different combinations will be
rather difficult.
This is normal in the world of R&D. Almost no-o
I only care to know if it does 6x9 in ONE pass at full 4000DPI...with
no monkeybusiness!
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"Hemingway, David J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wrote on
Tue, 19 Sep 2000 16:07:32 -0400
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What scans 35mm through 6x9 at 4000DPI, has a SCSI and firewire
connection,
do
I used Neato labels, applied with the supplied polycarbonate
centring device, on over a hundred CDRs sent in 1997-99 to
a wide range of users. All them will have been used at least
once . No-one has complained about unplayable disks, and
this doesn't surprise me.
It was difficult or impossible t
> Nope, not pissed. Often feel MUGGED by your posts, not your views.
I wouldn't hurt a fly, I help old dears across the road, before taking their
money :-)
> It would have been helpful if in the initial stages of coming with a method
> you would have shared your wisdom. It's been noted that yo
Would you expect anything less from Polaroid !!:)
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Subject: RE: [NONE]
I only care to know if it does 6x9 in ONE pass at full 4000DPI...with
no monkeyb
Can I just point out a couple of things, to those in favour of squeezing quarts into
pint pots by introducing deliberate non-linearity into the gain of
scanners.
You can't just wind the gain up or down prior to the A/D conversion. A density range
is a ratio. Every 0.3D step is a doubling or hal
On my scanwit I have problems that when scanning slides: the outer parts
(i.e. towards the long edges) seem too light (a bit muddy i.s.o. black),
especially visible with slides with really dark areas towards these edges. I
also notice this on negatives where the outer edges become yellowish i.s.o.
> I used Neato labels, applied with the supplied polycarbonate
> centring device, on over a hundred CDRs sent in 1997-99 to
> a wide range of users. All them will have been used at least
> once . No-one has complained about unplayable disks, and
> this doesn't surprise me.
Yes,I use Neato too, f
Mikkel Høj wrote:
"Trying to speed
up the process of post-scanning manipulation I have found no image deterioration
then downsampling from 4000 dpi to 3000 dpi in PhotoShop 5.5.
...
Comments?"
Response:
We're back with aliasing again, I'm afraid. The higher effective sample
rat
Dear Byron,
> > Trying to speed up the process of post-scanning manipulation I have found no
> image
> > deterioration then downsampling from 4000 dpi to 3000 dpi in PhotoShop 5.5.
> > I have made the tests on tripod with Velvia and the even better Provia 100F
> using a
> > near-Leica quality l
At 11:51 AM 9/18/00 +0100, you wrote:
>> I am also skeptical of well controlled hardware specific comparisons.
>> They might isolate some specific differences. However a scan is an
>> integration of the image, hardware capability, software capability,
>> computer setup, power setup and user exp
> OK, for light reading I've attached a zip file containing these two
> histograms.
> The ss4000 histogram is after I resampled it down to 2720 dpi in
> Photoshop.
> This averages the noise and gives the Polaroid a head start which it
> needs when
> going up against the Canon [1].
Setting the
Bill Ross wrote:
> I've discovered that places with drum scanners normally output
> only 24bit images - in California, at any rate: Calypso, West
> Coast Imaging, The New Lab. According to WCI, which has a Tango
> scanner, the only way to output 48b
Arthur Entlich wrote:
I happened upon some information I was totally unaware
of regarding how
Photoshop uses scratch disk space. I have yet to read this information
anywhere else, and it might be very useful to people who scan or work
with larger files, a nd wish to improve Photoshop's speed a
Funnily enough I experience the so called Orange Shift problem when printing
on PGPP from my 750.
In the past I've printed a portrait of my tanned wife only to be
disappointed with the immediate results, the brown skin tones fizz with an
orange tint, but if left for 10mins or so the print tones d
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