Re: [Finale] Bugle

2003-01-24 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 9:52 PM -0500 1/24/03, David Froom wrote: >I can't imagine someone >wanting to include bugle as a full-fledged member of the trumpet section. >But maybe my imagination isn't broad enough . . . On the other hand, who will play the part? A trumpet player! So do a trumpet player a favor and write

[Finale] Bugle

2003-01-24 Thread David Froom
Here is an odd question that came across my desk the other day, for which I would like to tap the collective wisdom of the group: Does anyone know if the bugle has a home in proper score order? If so, where does it go? And is this different for orchestra and concert band? My instinct is to thin

Re: [Finale] Horn parts

2003-01-24 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:49 PM -0500 1/24/03, Aaron Sherber wrote: At 02:53 PM 1/24/2003, dumusic wrote: My understanding is that all parts written in the bass clef are written at concert pitch, contra bassoons and string contrabasses excepted, which both transpose down an octave. Some where (maybe in Walter Piston

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Patterson
David H. Bailey wrote: Is there a reason? My reasons are mostly practical. 1) The F-transposed parts of std. rep., at least from Kalmus, contain many errors. 2) Because F-transposed parts are not always available even at the high school youth symphony level, it is a good idea to get used to

Re: [Finale] Bass Clef parts

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Patterson
Harold Owen wrote: If I find bass clarinet or baritone sax parts in a score written completely in bass clef, I should assume they are to be read in concert pitch. I can't speak for bari sax, but with bass clarinet and tenor tuba, the parts are all over the map. These parts appear in concert p

Re: [Finale] TAN: Mac OS X can wait

2003-01-24 Thread Matthew Hindson
> Subject: [Finale] TAN: Mac OS X can wait > > For those of you dedicated to using Mac OS X, I can see that having > all your applications written for the OS is a big thing. > > My weekend experience with Jaguar (OS 10.2.3) is extremely > disappointing, however. I got OS X running on my G4 533 MHz

Re: [Finale] Horn parts

2003-01-24 Thread Harold Owen
Dear experts, Tell me if I have this straight: When a horn part moves into the bass clef these days, the transposition remains the same as it is in treble clef, sounding down a fifth. However, some time in the past (when?), the transposition was up a fourth. The horn is one of the few (only?)

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 24/01/2003 19:55:56 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am curious why professionals wouldn't prefer transposed parts for F horns. The way you read, or rather think of, a part that is, for example, in D is different from the way you think of a part in F.  The D ho

Re: [Finale] Horn parts

2003-01-24 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 02:53 PM 1/24/2003, dumusic wrote: >My understanding is that all parts written in the bass clef are written at >concert pitch, contra bassoons and string contrabasses excepted, which both >transpose down an octave. Some where (maybe in Walter Piston's >"Orchestration") is a discussion about hor

Re: [Finale] Horn parts

2003-01-24 Thread rolin mains
<> okay, i am jumping in late in the game here and may have missed this, but FWIW, looking at El Salon Mexico the other day, i noticed the horn parts in bass clef...they sound up a fourth in that particular spot in the score. regards, Rollie Mains [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.rolinrmains.com 615

[Finale] Horn parts

2003-01-24 Thread dumusic
My understanding is that all parts written in the bass clef are written at concert pitch, contra bassoons and string contrabasses excepted, which both transpose down an octave. Some where (maybe in Walter Piston's "Orchestration") is a discussion about horn parts written in the bass clef being wri

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread David H. Bailey
Is there a reason? It seems that often the original parts were transposing parts anyway (work in one key, horns in a different key) so I am curious why professionals wouldn't prefer transposed parts for F horns. I realize they have learned how to transpose, just as trumpet players do, but in

Re: [Finale] TAN: Mac OS X can wait

2003-01-24 Thread dfenton
On 24 Jan 2003 at 8:07, Darcy James Argue wrote: > and by the way, having used my dad's WinXP machine > over the holidays, I gotta say, whoever claimed that Windows XP > antialiasing is just just as good as Quartz in OS X was smoking a big > bowl of crack A client of mine bought a new PC just

[Finale] WinFin2k3 and Yamaha Motif Keyboard

2003-01-24 Thread Steven Gruver
I have a Motif 6 Yamaha keyboard with multiple outputs (MIDI, USB and Optical). I am able to get Finale to recognize the keyboard using the MIDI connection, but has anyone had luck with the USB connection? Steve _ Add photos

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread John Howell
>John Howell wrote: >> But if you mean for >> them to be played on a modern valve horn in F, you should write them for >> horn in F. > >Nope. For most professionals, at least, it is better to provide them in >the key of the natural horn parts. Some publishers provide both original >key and F parts.

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 11:48 AM -0500 1/24/03, John Howell wrote: >Maybe I'm missing something important here. If you mean for the parts to >be played by a (natural) horn in G, I would agree. But if you mean for >them to be played on a modern valve horn in F, you should write them for >horn in F. There's a good rea

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Patterson
John Howell wrote: But if you mean for them to be played on a modern valve horn in F, you should write them for horn in F. Nope. For most professionals, at least, it is better to provide them in the key of the natural horn parts. Some publishers provide both original key and F parts. I'd guess

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Patterson
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the Water Music parts are written out for horn in F (and horn in D in the D major suite) Nope. The F horn parts are written out for horn in F, but the D horn parts are written out for horn in C (at least in Barenreiter). Go figure. -- Robert Patterson http://Rober

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread John Howell
>I agree with Robert - if the parts are obviously meant to be played by a >horn in G, then supply parts written out for horn in G. > >All the best, > >Lawrence Maybe I'm missing something important here. If you mean for the parts to be played by a (natural) horn in G, I would agree. But if you m

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 24/01/2003 14:55:55 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This could similar to the situation with Handel's Watermusic and Fireworks music. In (e.g.) the Fireworks music, I think it's only the Fireworks Music which is written out in C - the Water Music parts are writte

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread Robert Patterson
This could similar to the situation with Handel's Watermusic and Fireworks music. In (e.g.) the Fireworks music, the horns would have been pitched in D to play the notes Handel wrote, but the parts are written in C. The use of bass clef in your score suggests to me the score may be in concert

RE: [Finale] Opinions on Gigastudio with Finale

2003-01-24 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:33 PM 1/23/03 -0800, Rick Paul wrote: >Have >you considered simply getting some better quality Sound Fonts to load into >your SBlive card? I agree. http://www.thesoundsite.net/ has lots of great ones, and some of the brass is terrific. I use Waveterminal 2496 sound cards and LiveSynth Pro u

Re: [Finale] Finale Win 2k2 - Parts for multi-instruments

2003-01-24 Thread Steven D Sandiford
on 24/1/03 10:22 am, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > In a message dated 24/01/2003 10:20:49 GMT Standard Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > >> listen to me raving on about a feature available since >> Finale 200!! > > 200??? - Are you a lot older than you look? > > All the b

Re: [Finale] TAN: Mac OS X can wait

2003-01-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Friday, January 24, 2003, at 01:11 AM, Randolph Peters wrote: Thanks Darcy for your detailed response. A big part of my problem with OS X is that I DO have a beige G3 that has been upgraded with a G4 zif card. Aha. Then (if you ever decide to go back to OS X on this computer) you defini

Re: [Finale] TAN: French Horn question

2003-01-24 Thread Barbara Touburg
Martin, Maybe I am just very simple, but If the trumpets are in C, why should't the horns be? Do you have a score or just parts? If you have a score, it must be a non-transposing ons. A while ago I edited an 1745 oratorio, which had horns in the bass clef, notated non-transposing. [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: [Finale] Reduced activity?

2003-01-24 Thread David Stonestreet
Is it just me, or has the activity on this list dropped off dramatically over the last few months? I'm getting less than a half-dozen messages a day. I'm worried that my spam filter may be getting over-zealous. No I'm just waiting for an OS-X version of Finale to yak about :) Rocky Road --

Re: [Finale] Use of C for 4/4 time

2003-01-24 Thread Javier Ruiz
Thanks for all the answers to my question! It seems I was right ;) > What is the proper usage for C and 4/4? > > I am copying a piece have a ranging of 2/4 to 5/4 time signatures and it > seems strange to use C... > > Many thanks in advance to all. > Muchas gracias a todos. > > Javier Ruiz. >

Re: [Finale] Finale Win 2k2 - Parts for multi-instruments

2003-01-24 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 24/01/2003 10:20:49 GMT Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: listen to me raving on about a feature available since Finale 200!! 200??? - Are you a lot older than you look? All the best, Lawrence

Re: [Finale] Finale Win 2k2 - Parts for multi-instruments

2003-01-24 Thread Steven D Sandiford
on 24/1/03 8:34 am, mn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, I need this info: I'm writing tunes for 12 pieces jazz band, in this band > me and two other reeds player handle much than an instrument with different > pitches. I usually write everything in concert key on the main score, then let > Finale

FW: [Finale] MacFin 2003 and Virtual Memory

2003-01-24 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Doug replied to me personally, here it goes back to the list... -- Von: Doug Auwarter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Datum: Fri, 24 Jan 2003 00:38:29 -0600 An: Johannes Gebauer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Betreff: Re: [Finale] MacFin 2003 and Virtual Memory on 1/23/03 3:54 PM, Johannes Gebauer at [EMAIL PRO

[Finale] Finale Win 2k2 - Parts for multi-instruments

2003-01-24 Thread mn
Hi, I need this info: I'm writing tunes for 12 pieces jazz band, in this band me and two other reeds player handle much than an instrument with different pitches. I usually write everything in concert key on the main score, then let Finale do the rest for transposing. So the question is: whic