Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
David Fenton: say you have five quintuplet 8th-notes and three triplet quarter-notes in a 4/4 bar. Why not have two of the quintuplet 8th-notes, then one of the triplet quarter-notes, then another quintuplet 8th-note, and so on? ... Is this doable in Finale? Set up a 15:16 16th-n

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread John Howell
At 8:19 PM +0100 3/24/04, Daniel Wolf wrote: However, if we want the "delayed tuplet notation", or a metre in which denominator is anything other than a power-of-two, then we are probably limited to Score or Music Press, programs that are essentially for graphics, or using Finale as a graphics p

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:04 PM -0500 3/25/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 25 Mar 2004, at 02:55 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: (replying to a message that he himself wrote! Ever get the feeling that you're just talking to yourself? 8-) Christopher ___ Finale mailing list [E

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Mar 2004, at 03:22 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 25 Mar 2004 at 14:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for being monstrously thick, but I don't understand the problem here and I have obviously not understood the initial description of what the writer is trying to do. My understanding of the

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 25 Mar 2004 at 14:57, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Sorry for being monstrously thick, but I don't understand the problem > here and I have obviously not understood the initial description of > what the writer is trying to do. > > My understanding of the problem can be solved by using layers and

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Mar 2004, at 02:55 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Also, I think you might not have to use the 12/8, that nested triplets might have worked just as well. But like I said, I found it easier to work out in 12/8. Actually, once I thought about it a little further, the nested triplet solution w

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Sorry for being monstrously thick, but I don't understand the problem here and I have obviously not understood the initial description of what the writer is trying to do. My understanding of the problem can be solved by using layers and simply moving the notes to the left or right using the cursor

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Mar 2004, at 02:32 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: One way might be to change the time signature to 12/8 (but "display as 4/4"), which would (I think) allow you to enter the three notes of the "big tuplet" at the appropriate rhythmic points without having to use tuplets at all. Wait, no, I

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Robert Patterson
Finale's user interface does not allow de-grouping tuplets. However, a plugin possibly could set up isolated tuplet notes. The problem is that the U.I. does not accept fractional values for the "in the time of" field. For example, to set up an isolated triplet 8th, you would have to assign a tup

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
On 24 Mar 2004 at 20:19, Daniel Wolf wrote: > The other rhythmic convention that would be useful to overcome in a > notation program with playback is the strong bar line aspect of > Finale. I would like to have, on the one hand, vertically aligned > measures but independent metres and playback (a

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 25 Mar 2004, at 01:41 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: What about this example he gives: For the record, here’s what I used to be able to do in Encore that I can’t in Sibelius: Henry Cowell, in his masterful 1930 book New Musical Resources, suggested that “tuplets,” as they’re now ca

Re: [Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread Daniel Wolf
This is an old complaint of Morton Feldman's about notation programs -- that they won't do "delayed duplets", where the tuplet is divided in two or more parts, and the parts are separated from one another by some rhythmic unit. For example: 2/3 of a triplet in 8ths + a quarter note + the rem

[Finale] Kyle Gann's Articles on Sibelius

2004-03-25 Thread David W. Fenton
What about this example he gives: For the record, here’s what I used to be able to do in Encore that I can’t in Sibelius: Henry Cowell, in his masterful 1930 book New Musical Resources, suggested that “tuplets,” as they’re now called in computerese (and we needed a word for tha