RE: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-19 Thread Fisher, Allen
Designer" dialog, click "X" (cancel in the top-right) The modifications will take. I know it's a pain, but at least you can work around it. Allen -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gebauer, Johannes Sent: Saturday, January

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Jan 2004 at 6:53, David H. Bailey wrote: > Any change in velocity or volume needs a correspondingly opposite > expression to change it back. > > In Fin2004 where you can create a descriptive text along with the > expression you can create expressions for each occurence, one normal > one to

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:24 AM 1/17/04 -0500, gj.berg wrote: >I've always worked under the assumption that hairpins cannot be >performed on any note being held -- in order for the decresc. effect to >take place the note has to be be rearticulated. To change the *velocity*, a note needs to be rearticulated, but the *

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread David H. Bailey
In Fin2004, with "human playback" enabled in any of a number of different styles, smartshapes playback, so there isn't the same need to mess around with non-printing dynamic marks. The problem still exists, however that you can't edit the amount of playback effect for everything yet. Hopefully

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread gj.berg
Sorry, am I missing something here?  Is my world view about to be shattered?  I've always worked under the assumption that hairpins cannot be performed on any note being held -- in order for the decresc. effect to take place the note has to be be rearticulated. To that end I've found the execu

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread David H. Bailey
If you make no changes to the existing shapes, they work as they should. Have you created a new shape and saved it? I'm just curious since you just posted that they work and save fine on the Mac platform. The existing shapes in the Windows version work as they should -- it's just when trying

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread David H. Bailey
Which version are you using? They don't save properly or work properly in FinWin2003 or FinWin2004. I don't have 2002 or earlier installed and don't use them often so I don't recall how far back they've been broken. Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17.01.2004 12:47 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote Ex

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.01.2004 12:47 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote > Executable shapes are a travesty in current versions of Finale, you can > create them all day long and they don't get saved. You can edit > existing executable shapes as long as you want and your edits don't get > saved. They work and save just fi

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Well, I got it working fine for sfz, using an executable shape. The main thing is that the shape, which looks like "\" ends on zero height. This seems to make it go back to the previous volume. Johannes On 17.01.2004 12:53 Uhr, David H. Bailey wrote > Any change in velocity or volume needs a cor

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread David H. Bailey
Any change in velocity or volume needs a correspondingly opposite expression to change it back. In Fin2004 where you can create a descriptive text along with the expression you can create expressions for each occurence, one normal one to define the accent such as sfz, and one invisibble one (ju

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-17 Thread David H. Bailey
Executable shapes are a travesty in current versions of Finale, you can create them all day long and they don't get saved. You can edit existing executable shapes as long as you want and your edits don't get saved. They are worse than useless and MakeMusic admit that they don't work right. On

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread Mark D Lew
On Jan 16, 2004, at 3:17 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: I certainly don't want the volume to come down more every time until it literally disappears. I'm thinking it doesn't *literally* disappear. (Or perhaps I'm just deaf to your imagery?) mdl ___ Fina

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.01.2004 1:23 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > Why an expression? > > Articulations will do this just fine, as they apply only to the note > they are on. The pre-defined ones should work well, no? Long story, but not really relevant here. It works now. And articulations don't solve the problem

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.01.2004 1:15 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote > Actually, upon experiment, I can't. Can someone give me directions on how to > create an expression, which will playback the note it has been assigned to > louder than the previous and following notes? It's important that it gets > back to the previ

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Jan 2004 at 1:15, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > On 17.01.2004 0:17 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote > > > I think I can probably work > > out an sfz. > > Actually, upon experiment, I can't. Can someone give me directions on > how to create an expression, which will playback the note it has been > a

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 17.01.2004 0:17 Uhr, Johannes Gebauer wrote > I think I can probably work > out an sfz. Actually, upon experiment, I can't. Can someone give me directions on how to create an expression, which will playback the note it has been assigned to louder than the previous and following notes? It's imp

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Jan 2004 at 0:17, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > On 16.01.2004 23:46 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > > > On 16 Jan 2004 at 23:26, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > > > >> Can anyone tell me how to get Expressions like sfz, fp etc to play > >> back correctly? > > > > An executable shape for the volume con

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.01.2004 23:46 Uhr, David W. Fenton wrote > On 16 Jan 2004 at 23:26, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > >> Can anyone tell me how to get Expressions like sfz, fp etc to play >> back correctly? > > An executable shape for the volume controller? Sure, but how does this beast work? (Actually I think t

Re: [Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jan 2004 at 23:26, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to get Expressions like sfz, fp etc to play > back correctly? An executable shape for the volume controller? -- David W. Fentonhttp://www.bway.net/~dfenton David Fenton Associatesht

[Finale] Playing back sfz Expressions

2004-01-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Can anyone tell me how to get Expressions like sfz, fp etc to play back correctly? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale