Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-19 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2003 at 17:39, J. Simon van der Walt wrote: > I was interested in the angle that > mac people are more used to it than PCers; I'm a mac-er. I also wonder > about trans-atlantic differences? There seems to be a libertarian > strand to the argument which feels strange, perhaps us Euro's ar

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread RockyRoad
Q. Does Finale 2004 have copy protection? A. No. It does, however, require software registration within 30 days of installation. Failure to do so will temporarily disable printing and saving until you do register. You may also install Finale on two machines (on the same platform ñ an additional pla

[Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread Tobias Giesen
> In laymans terms- then what? > What IS challenge/response? You won't even notice it. It feels like a simple online registration, but what's really happening is that your specific computer is registered and activated using a most likely globally unique ID. You will only notice it when trying t

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Bailey
But it also removes the saving/printing capability from the current machine when it gives you that code, so it is possible for the number to appear on your screen thus disabling the installed version and for the power to go out at that point in time before you have a chance to write the code do

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread J. Simon van der Walt
> From: "David H. Bailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > But it also removes the saving/printing capability No, you can print from an unregistered copy, I think. > from the current > machine when it gives you that code, so it is possible for the number to > appear on your screen thus disabling the ins

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Bailey
But your reply doesn't come back immediately, which is what I meant. Yes, you can contact them 24/7, but people aren't monitoring it and replying 24/7. When I first bought Sibelius I had to wait a day to get my registration. Luckily that was within the 5-day use-before-disabling period. If I

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread Tyler Turner
Finale 2004 Registration FAQ’s Q. Does Finale 2004 have copy protection? A. No. It does, however, require software registration within 30 days of installation. Failure to do so will temporarily disable printing and saving until you do register. You may also install Finale on two machines (on the

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread Dr. Gordon J. Callon
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RE: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:57 AM, David H. Bailey > If I install Finale2004 on my machine and it does its electronic > handshake and receives its registration activation code, then > it works > forever on that machine, right? When I sell that machine, > the software > will still be on th

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Bailey
This brings up yet another legal issue that I'm not sure MakeMusic have thought about -- if the software is registered to a specific machine, does it remain with that machine? Talk about giving away free copies! If I install Finale2004 on my machine and it does its electronic handshake and rec

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On Friday, August 8, 2003, at 06:21 PM, Tyler Turner wrote: Q. What happens if MakeMusic! ceases to exist? Will I still be able to use the software? A. If we cease to exist, Finale will continue to run on your computer. You would, however, run into problems if you tried, for example, to register

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread RockyRoad
At 11:04 PM 8/9/03 +1000, RockyRoad wrote: PS: The system is acceptable to me. I am a veteran of dongles (Logic), keydisks (Soundiver) and other arcane systems. Of course the potential demise of MakeMusic is a concern but the greater issue their would be whether the last Finale would continue to ru

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-14 Thread David H. Bailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] reasonable way to transfer my old Finale files to a non-obsolete music notation app?" and, "Good lord, I'm not really going to have to start using Sibelius now, am I?" And THAT could be the scariest what-if of all! -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-12 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:04 PM 8/9/03 +1000, RockyRoad wrote: >PS: The system is acceptable to me. I am a >veteran of dongles (Logic), keydisks (Soundiver) >and other arcane systems. Of course the potential >demise of MakeMusic is a concern but the greater >issue their would be whether the last Finale >would con

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-12 Thread William Roberts
David H. Bailey wrote: > But your reply doesn't come back immediately, > which is what I meant. Really? I've re-registered my copy of Sibelius on the internet by filling in their form, and I got my registration number emailed to me right then and there, within seconds. I was up and running

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-11 Thread David H. Bailey
It's the "one working day" bit that is the problem -- they don't work on the weekend or late at night. At least they didn't when I registered my copy of Sibelius. So if you have a problem on Friday evening, it might not be until Monday that you can get working again. Which is rotten if you a

RE: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-11 Thread RockyRoad
> Sibelius apparently manages the transfer of licenses from one machine to another via floppies, which strikes me as not such a great idea. (What do Mac users do?) I would say that finally, after 20 years of IBM PC compatible floppies, we have a successor to the floppy which fits into ALL perso

[Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-10 Thread J. Simon van der Walt
> From: Darcy James Argue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I'd like to hear more about this. Sibelius apparently manages the > transfer of licenses from one machine to another via floppies, which > strikes me as not such a great idea. This is not correct; there are no floppies involved. The machine you are

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-10 Thread William Roberts
David H. Bailey wrote: >Then you have to contact Sibelius (which does NOT have 24/7 live or >electronic installation assistance) and meekly ask for permission to >start using your legally purchased software again. I can't believe that I sound like a Sibelius apologist, but in the interest of e

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-09 Thread David H. Bailey
Brad Beyenhof wrote: [snip] Sound appealing? I still can't understand why an upgrade to Fin2k4, which fixes SO MANY of the problems I've spent so much time attempting to overcome, could be declined by any serious professional. Copy protection or no copy protection. I think, in the case of any

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-09 Thread Craig Parmerlee
At 11:04 PM 8/9/2003 +1000, RockyRoad wrote: PS: The system is acceptable to me. I am a veteran of dongles (Logic), keydisks (Soundiver) and other arcane systems. Of course the potential demise of MakeMusic is a concern but the greater issue their would be whether the last Finale would continue

Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-09 Thread David H. Bailey
Oh, great, now I'm gonna have to go buy an $80 "dongle" just so I can guarantee that my legally purchased and never pirated copy of Finale can work, should I move to a new computer after Apple has purchased MakeMusic? And here I thought the cost of the upgrade was supposed to be $89! Tobias G

RE: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-08 Thread Burt Fenner
Thanks, Tyler. BF > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Tyler Turner > Sent: Friday, August 08, 2003 6:22 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic > > > > Finale 2004 Registration FAQs

RE: [Finale] RE: 2004 Panic

2003-08-08 Thread Tobias Giesen
> Sibelius apparently manages the transfer of licenses > from one machine to another via floppies, which > strikes me as not such a great idea. (What do Mac users do?) I would say that finally, after 20 years of IBM PC compatible floppies, we have a successor to the floppy which fits into ALL