Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: Well, that's their choice, now isn't it? Why would you want to make life more difficult for Digest readers by suggesting that no one should bother trimming their quotations? What does it cost you to agree that cutting quotations to the minimum is A Good Thing? Or how

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Darcy James Argue schrieb: In that case, then you are one of maybe three people on the entire Finale list who is sending "properly formatted email messages" -- at least by your definition. And it actually makes everyone else's life more difficult, unless you actually want double messages

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Aug 2005, at 6:17 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 10 Aug 2005 at 17:52, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 10 Aug 2005, at 5:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Er, the mailing list software sets the reply to address on list posts to include both the list and the original poster's address. No it d

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Aug 2005, at 8:03 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: You responded only to the latter, ignoring the major benefit in order to be insular and tell us how great your own email client is. Well, no, actually, but thanks for trying to read my mind all the same. When I described how Apple Mail handle

Re: [Finale] OT Reply-To

2005-08-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 08:04 PM 08/10/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >OK, maybe not required, but certainly recommended. The RFC seems to imply that it should only be used when needed -- that is, when the reply to a message should be directed somewhere other than the sender of the message. Since MUAs are supposed to

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2005 at 18:46, Aaron Sherber wrote: > At 06:17 PM 08/10/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: > >It does it for any post to the list that has a Reply-To header (as > >every properly formatted email message should). > > Well, since I'm in a picky mood tonight : > > RFC822 explicitly states tha

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2005 at 18:38, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 10 Aug 2005, at 6:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > The Digest obviously works for many people or they wouldn't > > subscribe to it. > > That's what we usually call a "tautology," David. Well, I provided a justification for why one would sub

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Karen
Top posting On 10/08/05, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: While I don't like "top posting" I don't object to it at all if the quoted material is judiciously trimmed only to that which is necessary to provide context. I don't mind "top-posting" *too* much, but it does remind m

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On 10/08/05, David W. Fenton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > While I don't like "top posting" I don't object to it at all if the > quoted material is judiciously trimmed only to that which is > necessary to provide context. I don't mind "top-posting" *too* much, but it does remind me of a joke I onc

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 06:17 PM 08/10/2005, David W. Fenton wrote: >It does it for any post to the list that has a Reply-To header (as >every properly formatted email message should). Well, since I'm in a picky mood tonight : RFC822 explicitly states that the Reply-To header is optional.

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Aug 2005, at 6:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Why would you want to make life more difficult for Digest readers by suggesting that no one should bother trimming their quotations? Well, I can't think of any reason why I would want to do that, which is why _I never said that._ What do

Re: [Finale] improved autosave?

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Aug 2005 at 8:18, Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: > "David W. Fenton" wrote: > > I'd be interested to know if under OS X you guys were stikll finding > > RAM disks helpful with pre-2006 Finale. We had a discussion of this > > a while back and I can't remember what was concluded. I'd

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Aug 2005 at 0:06, Johannes Gebauer wrote: > David W. Fenton schrieb: > > Yes, I would agree. There seems to be a certain laziness that sets > > in for people who are using email clients that put the reply *above* > > the quoted text. It seems that those kinds of users tend to > > completely

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2005 at 17:58, Darcy James Argue wrote: > I forgot to add, when addressing someone's question, lots of people > reply to the replies (not the original), so even if the list was > configured to automatically reply-to the individual as well as the > list (which it isn't), digest subscri

Re: [Finale] improved autosave?

2005-08-10 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
"David W. Fenton" wrote: I'd be interested to know if under OS X you guys were stikll finding RAM disks helpful with pre-2006 Finale. We had a discussion of this a while back and I can't remember what was concluded. I'd have thought that OS X's modern industrial-strength virtual memory managem

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2005 at 17:52, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 10 Aug 2005, at 5:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > In the last couple of weeks, this list has generated around 75-100 > > messages a day. if you have new mail notification turned on in your > > email client (and there are good reasons to d

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 05:52 PM 08/10/2005, Darcy James Argue wrote: >On 10 Aug 2005, at 5:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: >> Er, the mailing list software sets the reply to address on list posts >> to include both the list and the original poster's address. > >No it doesn't. (It does this when I reply to _you_ for so

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
David W. Fenton schrieb: Yes, I would agree. There seems to be a certain laziness that sets in for people who are using email clients that put the reply *above* the quoted text. It seems that those kinds of users tend to completely ignore what is quoted below. While I don't like "top posting"

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
I forgot to add, when addressing someone's question, lots of people reply to the replies (not the original), so even if the list was configured to automatically reply-to the individual as well as the list (which it isn't), digest subscribers _still_ wouldn't see many responses to their quer

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 10 Aug 2005, at 5:43 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: In the last couple of weeks, this list has generated around 75-100 messages a day. if you have new mail notification turned on in your email client (and there are good reasons to do so), that would been 75-100 notices for non-urgent messages. O

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2005 at 17:24, Darcy James Argue wrote: > While I'm all for more selective quoting, in this age when virtually > all email clients have mail rules or smart mailboxes or mailing list > managers or thread managers, I have no idea why you or anyone else > subscribes to the digest. What

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2005 at 17:08, Andrew Levin wrote: > May put forward a kind reminder for people to quote other emails more > selectively? My digest, especially, ends up two or three times as long > as it needs to be for all of the unnecessary quoting that goes on. Yes, I would agree. There seems to be

Re: [Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Andrew, While I'm all for more selective quoting, in this age when virtually all email clients have mail rules or smart mailboxes or mailing list managers or thread managers, I have no idea why you or anyone else subscribes to the digest. What possible advantage does the digest have over

[Finale] Quoting

2005-08-10 Thread Andrew Levin
Colleagues, May put forward a kind reminder for people to quote other emails more selectively? My digest, especially, ends up two or three times as long as it needs to be for all of the unnecessary quoting that goes on. Thanks. Andrew ___ Finale m

Re: [Finale] Speedy Entry question.

2005-08-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Wilco .. Thanks, Dean On Aug 10, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Lee Actor wrote: I'm on a PC, but I'm sure it works the same for a Mac. Check your User's Manual. -Lee Lee:: Are these the commands on a PC or Mac? Dean On Aug 9, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Lee Actor wrote: I'm using FinWin2k2 and I've jus

Re: [Finale] Hyperscribe sounds

2005-08-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Yes, this is for GPO ... I too had heard some probs. Dean On Aug 10, 2005, at 9:46 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Is your score setup for GPO playback? I think I heard some problems with this and Hyperscribe. I can't help you with this, as I never use Hyperscribe. Johannes Dean M. Estabrook

Re: [Finale] Hyperscribe sounds

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Is your score setup for GPO playback? I think I heard some problems with this and Hyperscribe. I can't help you with this, as I never use Hyperscribe. Johannes Dean M. Estabrook schrieb: I've now communicated twice with MM Tech on this (via e mail), and they have not yet come up with an acti

RE: [Finale] Speedy Entry question.

2005-08-10 Thread Lee Actor
I'm on a PC, but I'm sure it works the same for a Mac. Check your User's Manual. -Lee > > Lee:: > > Are these the commands on a PC or Mac? > > Dean > > On Aug 9, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Lee Actor wrote: > > >> I'm using FinWin2k2 and I've just recently got back into using Speedy > >> Entry after many

[Finale] Hyperscribe sounds

2005-08-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
I've now communicated twice with MM Tech on this (via e mail), and they have not yet come up with an action witch helps. See if any of you have solved the prob. In Hyperscribe, I can not seem to get a metronome sound, or any other sound, anymore, in the clickoff and count mode. Any though

Re: [Finale] Speedy Entry question.

2005-08-10 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Lee:: Are these the commands on a PC or Mac? Dean On Aug 9, 2005, at 5:20 PM, Lee Actor wrote: I'm using FinWin2k2 and I've just recently got back into using Speedy Entry after many years of not having a MIDI connection. Only one problem still plagues me. Is there any way to input notes an

Re: [Finale] TAN: orchestra piece

2005-08-10 Thread Andrew Stiller
Thanks to all who responded on this. I still haven't made up my mind on the numbers of parts, but at least I have a firmer basis for the decision. I suspect the solution is simply to provide an excess of parts and let the conductor sort it out As for parallels to this unusual piece (Il mio ri

Re: [Finale] Question about compound time

2005-08-10 Thread dhbailey
Taris Whitepaw wrote: I'm currently working on a piece in 12/8 time (various asymmetric groupings, mind you), and Finale seems to have one annyoying habit that I would like to know if I can break. When I ask it to fill bars with rests, Finale will not use dotted rests. Instead, I wind up wit

[Finale] Re: Cannot Zap First System With Optimize

2005-08-10 Thread Thurletta Brown-Gavins
Thanks Hal, Brad, dc and others for providing a solution so quickly! I tend to forget that rests are "real" and now that first system is optimized, thanks to the "MM Clear" solution for killing the bass solo. I'm still fiddling with the anthemthe solos were written for specific persons in

[Finale] Question about compound time

2005-08-10 Thread Taris Whitepaw
I'm currently working on a piece in 12/8 time (various asymmetric groupings, mind you), and Finale seems to have one annyoying habit that I would like to know if I can break. When I ask it to fill bars with rests, Finale will not use dotted rests. Instead, I wind up with a mess of quarter a

Re: [Finale] Speedy Entry question.

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Forgot an important one (which has hit me once again just now): - A better solution for triplet/tuplet entry: Having to use the combination Option-3 for every triplet really stops the flow. There must be a better way to do this from the number keypad. Anyone got a suggestion? and here is anothe

Re: [Finale] Speedy Entry question.

2005-08-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
I have a very old and simple MIDI keyboard, which doesn't have any way of transposing the keys. For that it would indeed be very helpful if Finale had such a switch built in. However, it is more important to me that Speedy gets a major overhaul, the transposition switch is secondary. Here is

Re: [Finale] Speedy Entry question.

2005-08-10 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Taris Whitepaw wrote: I'm using FinWin2k2 and I've just recently got back into using Speedy Entry after many years of not having a MIDI connection. Only one problem still plagues me. Is there any way to input notes an octave higher than played? My keyboard (which a friend has given me) stop