Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Chuck Israels
On Sep 9, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Simon Troup wrote: (By now, you have all figured out that I don't know how to get the symbol for degrees on my keyboard.) Try alt-shift-8 although I'm not sure how it will look cross platform! 90° 180° We use the degree symbol for 1° and 2° (first time and 2nd t

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:43 AM 9/10/05 +0100, Simon Troup wrote: >Try alt-shift-8 although I'm not sure how it will look cross platform! >90° 180° Looks great, to a degree. :) ALT+0176 on Windows. 176° Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Simon Troup
>(By now, you have all figured out that I don't know how to get the >symbol for degrees on my keyboard.) Try alt-shift-8 although I'm not sure how it will look cross platform! 90° 180° We use the degree symbol for 1° and 2° (first time and 2nd time only). -- Simon Troup Digital Music Art _

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Durling
"Well, MINE goes to 11!" Your explanation reminds me how rich a joke that was Ken At 07:07 PM 9/9/2005, you wrote: At 09:13 PM 9/9/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: >Well, the problem is that you've got 180 degrees and 128 MIDI values, Now I see what you're getting at. Let me take you th

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 09:13 PM 9/9/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: >Well, the problem is that you've got 180 degrees and 128 MIDI values, Now I see what you're getting at. Let me take you through why my preference is that scaling be abstracted and generalized. In most cases, percentage works for me because I'm a

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 17:19, Chuck Israels wrote: > Degrees? 90 degrees left? 60 degrees right? 0 degrees = center. > (By now, you have all figured out that I don't know how to get the > symbol for degrees on my keyboard.) W - N - E? Well, the problem is that you've got 180 degrees and 128 MIDI

Re: [Finale] Text Expr Designer_bug? Fin 2006 (Mac)

2005-09-09 Thread Eric Dussault
Le 05-09-09 à 09:14, Fisher, Allen a écrit : Line spacing shows up fine for me. Finale 2006, 10.4, G5 Single. It shows up fine in the menu, but when you click on it, or type in the shortcut, the dialog box fail to appear. I'm also on 10.4 but Dual G5. Both computer I installed Finale 2006

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Chuck Israels
Degrees? 90 degrees left? 60 degrees right? 0 degrees = center. (By now, you have all figured out that I don't know how to get the symbol for degrees on my keyboard.) W - N - E? That would make some sense to me, but it's not so difficult for me to learn another set of numbers that repre

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 18:23, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 09 Sep 2005, at 5:42 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > No, percentages are *not* the right way to do it. > > Percentages are the *standard* way to do it. . . . Well, we are talking past each other. I said it's WRONG, you said it's STANDARD.

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 18:12, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > At 05:42 PM 9/9/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: > >Percentages are massively worse, as the percentage would be a signed > >percentage of, er, um, what? Rightness? 25% right? -33% right? > > Yeah. 100% left, 100% right. Sounds good to me. Bett

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 5:42 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: No, percentages are *not* the right way to do it. Percentages are the *standard* way to do it. All major digital audio applications use percentages. Moreover, the Kontakt Player users percentages for pan, which means Finale is not even in

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Peter Taylor
Darcy James Argue : Finale, on the other hand, does not define pan in terms of derivation from the center. Instead of center = 0, they use center = 64. 0 is actually hard right. Now I understand why they are doing that -- it's how the MIDI controller data is actually sent -- but it is *in

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 05:42 PM 9/9/05 -0400, David W. Fenton wrote: >Percentages are massively worse, as the percentage would be a signed >percentage of, er, um, what? Rightness? 25% right? -33% right? Yeah. 100% left, 100% right. Sounds good to me. Better'n north by northwest. :) Seriously, I only think in terms

Re: [Finale] RE: Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Morris Inouye
On 9/9/05, Jacki B. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: on 9/9/05 3:49 PM, Ryan Beard wrote:> Jacki,>> Do you really mean Fb? F-nat would give you a D°> triad...LOL - Sorry to freak everyone out!!  Upon looking at it again, it has Fnatural in the bass, G# (or Ab?) and E natural in the treble - but the E is

Re: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 9, 2005, at 4:40 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Seems to me that this is functioning (according to your description) as some kind of dominant chord to the target chord of C Major, in which case, there are a couple of ways of describing it, depending on the context. As it is now, it seems t

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 16:16, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 09 Sep 2005, at 3:54 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > >> And do you actually think that's a *good* idea? > >> > > > > Well, he wasn't addressing whether it was good or not (it obviously > > isn't). He was just showing that your assertion of fact

Re: [Finale] RE: Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread ThomaStudios
With this info it now seems like an Fm6, even with the E suspended. I've seen progressions like this in old, old lead sheets where the editors could NOT read bass clef, and only saw the chord shape in the treble. In many of these cases, I would play a Bb9(#11) as a substitution to hip it up.

Re: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Chuck Israels
Seems to me that this is functioning (according to your description) as some kind of dominant chord to the target chord of C Major, in which case, there are a couple of ways of describing it, depending on the context. As it is now, it seems to be a D dim./F, and that's probably the best w

Re: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Jacki B.
on 9/9/05 5:07 PM, George Galway wrote: > Could it be E7 no 5th. ? Thanks, George - I'm sorry to have mistakenly said there was an Fb (E) in the chord - I realized the E was a suspended note that resolves to a D... There is an F natural in the bass, so I'm starting to think this IS the D° chord..

Re: [Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 4:16 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: 0 is actually hard right. GAH! I meant hard left, of course. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] Panning values

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 3:54 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: And do you actually think that's a *good* idea? Well, he wasn't addressing whether it was good or not (it obviously isn't). He was just showing that your assertion of fact was COMPLETELY MISTAKEN. Oh fercrissakes. It was deliberate hyperbo

Re: [Finale] RE: Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Jacki B.
on 9/9/05 3:49 PM, Ryan Beard wrote: > Jacki, > > Do you really mean Fb? F-nat would give you a D° > triad... LOL - Sorry to freak everyone out!! Upon looking at it again, it has F natural in the bass, G# (or Ab?) and E natural in the treble - but the E is sort of a "suspended" note that resolv

RE: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread George Galway
Could it be E7 no 5th. ? George G. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacki B. Sent: Friday, September 09, 2005 8:32 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Chord Definition Hey, Everyone - I've gone blank this afternoon for some reason! C

Re: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Jacki B.
Thanks, Everyone... I'm going crazy I think! Sorry for not stating things clearly. I currently have it spelled as an F in the bass, a G# and D in the treble, with no B... It definitely has a "diminished" type sound to it, or even a minor sound... The chord before it is a D major - and this "so

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 14:24, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 09 Sep 2005, at 2:04 PM, dhbailey wrote: > > > Darcy James Argue wrote: > > > >> You can type numeric values for volume and pan in the instrument > >> list. I agree that the UI for adjusting the pan in the mixer/ > >> studio view is unusabl

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
9 Sep 2005 at 13:40, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Also, for panning, instead of absolute MIDI > controller values, Finale should use percentages (e.g. 33% L, 67% R) > like, oh, I don't know, EVERY OTHER APPLICATION THAT LETS YOU SET > PANNING. As an option, I cn understand, but as the only way

Re: [Finale] OT: Firefox

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 12:49, Phil Daley wrote: > 801,104504,00.html?source=NLT_AM&nid=104504> Firefox is still a safer, more secure browser than Internet Explorer. Compare the Secunia pages for IE6.x and Firefox: IE6.x http://s

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 15:41, Colin Broom wrote: > The studio view I'm not yet convinced about, which is something I'd > been looking forward to.. After looking at it for a bit, I basically > ended up switching back to scroll view. One particular flaw in the > way that studio view works is in the pann

Re: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 9, 2005, at 3:31 PM, Jacki B. wrote: Hey, Everyone - I've gone blank this afternoon for some reason! Could someone let me know what this chord would be called: D - Fb - Ab I know it's a D diminished but can't remember if this is the regular diminished chord or a "doubly diminished" si

[Finale] RE: Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Ryan Beard
Jacki, Do you really mean Fb? F-nat would give you a D° triad... Ryan __ Click here to donate to the Hurricane Katrina relief effort. http://store.yahoo.com/redcross-donate3/ __

Re: [Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread ThomaStudios
Did you mean D - F - Ab? You said Fb. If it is F, then it is D° or Ddim. J.D. Thomas ThomaStudios *** J.D. Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR www.thomastudios.com *** On Sep 9, 2005, at 12:31 PM, Jacki B. wrote: Hey, Everyone - I've gone bla

[Finale] Chord Definition

2005-09-09 Thread Jacki B.
Hey, Everyone - I've gone blank this afternoon for some reason! Could someone let me know what this chord would be called: D - Fb - Ab I know it's a D diminished but can't remember if this is the regular diminished chord or a "doubly diminished" since it's 2 minor 3rds... Just gone brain-dead f

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Sep 2005 at 6:21, Darcy James Argue wrote: > [So far, the thread seems to be leaning towards "or not," especially > if the accidental in question is parenthesized.] My feeling is that you don't really need a "rule" for this. All you need is to ask yourself: Is the notation unambiguous so

Re: [Finale] Text Expr Designer_bug? Fin 2006 (Mac)

2005-09-09 Thread Fisher, Allen
There's an issue with resource sharing amongst Audio Units that is causing some problems. I thought that maybe that was related. It doesn't appear to be. On 9/9/05 9:03 AM, "Rich Caldwell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said this: > I thought I remember hearing that this was a known issue - a feature > tha

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 09 Sep 2005, at 2:04 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: You can type numeric values for volume and pan in the instrument list. I agree that the UI for adjusting the pan in the mixer/ studio view is unusable. Also, for panning, instead of absolute

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 2:04 PM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: You can type numeric values for volume and pan in the instrument list. I agree that the UI for adjusting the pan in the mixer/ studio view is unusable. Also, for panning, instead of absolute MIDI controller values, F

[Finale] OT: Firefox

2005-09-09 Thread Phil Daley
Phil Daley < AutoDesk > http://www.conknet.com/~p_daley ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: You can type numeric values for volume and pan in the instrument list. I agree that the UI for adjusting the pan in the mixer/studio view is unusable. Also, for panning, instead of absolute MIDI controller values, Finale should use percentages (e.g. 33% L, 67% R)

Re: [Finale] US copyright question

2005-09-09 Thread Ken Moore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > So the Mahler was out of copyright I guess... Well, it would have been in most European countries. Mahler died in 1911, and in 1969, when the Sinfonia was published, the 50 year rule still applied most places. There was probably one exceptional country (possibly

Re: [Finale] Text Expr Designer_bug? Fin 2006 (Mac)

2005-09-09 Thread Hans Arktoft
2005-09-09 kl. 15.14 skrev Fisher, Allen: Line spacing shows up fine for me. Finale 2006, 10.4, G5 Single. Are you running any Audio Units other than FinGPO? No, nothing else. I thought I remember hearing that this was a known issue - a feature that was added, but not finished in the Mac

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 10:41 AM, Colin Broom wrote: However, every time I set the display colour of tuplet brackets to black, it reverts back to blue the next time I re-open Finale. Anyone else come across this? I can't reproduce this on Mac. The studio view I'm not yet convinced about, whic

RE: [Finale] Coil binder

2005-09-09 Thread Lee Actor
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf > Of dc > > Andrew Stiller écrit: > >I tried to go there, but "Server Could Not Be Found." > > Strange, because I'm there right now. > > And I see this is US only. > > Where's a good place in Europe to get such

[Finale] Syllable division in French

2005-09-09 Thread Christopher Smith
Hi, collected wisdom, especially those of the francophone persuasion, I have to divide some lyrics in French into syllables, and I can't find a reference. My Petit Robert tells me in the introduction that the subject is of little interest (not to me!), except to say that separately-sounded con

Re: [Finale] US copyright question [ot]

2005-09-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Sep 8, 2005, at 6:55 PM, M. Perticone wrote: hello mr. stiller and listers, if i recall well, there's a notice acknowledging permission from various publishers. i don't have it at hand, but i'll check it tomorrow at my studio. There may be now (and if so, that's very interesting), but

Re: [Finale] US copyright question

2005-09-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Sep 8, 2005, at 5:38 PM, Ken Durling wrote: Just curious, although I've heard the work [Sinfonia]. I'm not intimately familiar with it, and I'm only aware of the Mahler 2 Scherzo in there. What else is there? And is/was the Mahler for sure under copyright? The Mahler just serves as the

Re: [Finale] Coil binder

2005-09-09 Thread Andrew Stiller
we're now offering the Akiles CoilMac-M Manual Punch and Coil Inserter. http://www.npcimaging.com I tried to go there, but "Server Could Not Be Found." --Andrew ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/final

Re: [Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:41 AM 09/09/2005, Colin Broom wrote: >However, every time I set the display >colour of tuplet brackets to black, it reverts back to blue the next time I >re-open Finale. Anyone else come across this? Yes, I can confirm this. Aaron. ___ Finale m

[Finale] Finale 2k6 Tuplet Blues and other first impressions

2005-09-09 Thread Colin Broom
Just got Finale 2006 and installed it on my system yesterday. I basically launched into work on Fin2k6, and didn't have the usual obliggatory getting acquainted period, so there are probably a lot of things I haven't discovered yet, as they may not fall into my normal work pattern. The first

Re: [Finale] Text Expr Designer_bug? Fin 2006 (Mac)

2005-09-09 Thread Mark Blumberg
Yes, I've had the same results. Line spacing works fine for me in the Text Tool only. If I try to edit text anywhere else, the Line Spacing option can not be selected. Mark Blumberg Walnut Creek, CA On Sep 8, 2005, at 6:04 AM, Hans Arktoft wrote: Anyone else noticed that Line Spacing is dis

Re: [Finale] Text Expr Designer_bug? Fin 2006 (Mac)

2005-09-09 Thread Rich Caldwell
I thought I remember hearing that this was a known issue - a feature that was added, but not finished in the Mac version, or something to that effect. Maybe I assumed this. For me, the Line Spacing menu item is there, but nothing happens when I select it. Nothing other than FinGPO is runn

Re: [Finale] Text Expr Designer_bug? Fin 2006 (Mac)

2005-09-09 Thread Fisher, Allen
Line spacing shows up fine for me. Finale 2006, 10.4, G5 Single. Are you running any Audio Units other than FinGPO? On 9/8/05 6:37 PM, "Eric Dussault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said this: > > Le 05-09-08 à 09:04, Hans Arktoft a écrit : > >> Anyone else noticed that Line Spacing is disabled in the T

[Finale] OT Hard drive question

2005-09-09 Thread Lawrence David Eden
OT... I have an older Mac with an ATA 2.0 Gig HD. Yesterday, I turned on the Mac, and heard some strange noises coming from the HD. It sounds like the old Iomega "Click of Death" that some of you probably remember. Anyway, the drive seems to be dead. Norton can't find it. Disk Warrior ca

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 6:15 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: On 09 Sep 2005, at 5:09 AM, dhbailey wrote: I can't recall where I've read this, but I'm sure a search of Stone or Read or Ross will support it -- the later note in the second measure requires an accidental. The rule

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: On 09 Sep 2005, at 5:09 AM, dhbailey wrote: I can't recall where I've read this, but I'm sure a search of Stone or Read or Ross will support it -- the later note in the second measure requires an accidental. The rule about accidentals working throughout the measur

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 09 Sep 2005, at 5:09 AM, dhbailey wrote: I can't recall where I've read this, but I'm sure a search of Stone or Read or Ross will support it -- the later note in the second measure requires an accidental. The rule about accidentals working throughout the measure only applies when there

Re: [Finale] Ambience Plugin in Windows

2005-09-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 2:36 Uhr Darcy James Argue wrote: Sent offlist -- Mac VST version. The Mac AU version -- the one that works with Finale -- has a completely different UI, it looks nothing like the Windows version. You mean, it doesn't have an UI. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.c

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Darcy James Argue écrit: I had the opposite instinct -- that a parenthesized courtesy accidental on a tied note at the beginning of a measure would not carry through the measure But what if you don't use parentheses? Then it would carry through. One more reason for not having the

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread dhbailey
Ken Durling wrote: I agree, it's never been an issue for me either - more problematic is a reiteration of the same note later in the 2nd measure, and whether the measure rule applies from the tied note. But still the courtesy accidental is always the safe road. (I do like "curtsy" accidenta

Re: [Finale] ties/accidentals over system breaks

2005-09-09 Thread dhbailey
Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 17:22 Uhr dc wrote: The Peters Urtext edition of the (manualiter) Toccatas, 1956, seems to follow the rule. All my other volumes of organ works are Bärenreiter (with one Breitkopf). Thanks, that's what I needed to know. The client has actually given in. He actua

[Finale] OT: NY Phil Hosts Open-Mic Night

2005-09-09 Thread Darcy James Argue
The gag is okay, but half of the humor comes from the fact that classical music is so rarely even _referenced_ in popular culture these days that you can get a snicker just by mentioning the NY Phil and Lorin Maazel in the pages of The Onion. [