Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread Jan Melaerts
Hi Dean, A USB 2 (!) hub would certainly do it. I do not know whether you have an airport extreme basestation. In that case you could even share your laser printer with multiple macs of pc using the USB port of the airport without loosing onze of your mac ports... Jan. Op 22-okt-05, om 05

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

2005-10-22 Thread Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account
Owain Sutton wrote: Ahhh, the delights of the nonstandard key signature. One of the most user-unfriendly features of Finale... ::deep breath:: ... First of all, I'd start by installing the Accidentals font from here: http://www.hindson.com.au/wordpress/index.php/free-fonts-available-for-down

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

2005-10-22 Thread Owain Sutton
Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: Wow Owain, that's amazing. Thanks for that - do you mind if I include these instructions in the Accidentals font documentation? I don't mind at all - help yourself :) Owain ___ Finale mailing list Final

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread Carlberg Jones
At 8:31 PM -0700 10/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: >So, now that I wish to run 2 printers with my iMac G5, which has >only one vacant USB port, is it ok to run both printers through a >hub, or does that create some sort of problem of which I am presently >unaware? Hubs are an easy alternative t

Re: [Finale] Lost files

2005-10-22 Thread dhbailey
John Bell wrote: I'm afraid not, unless you have Auto Save on (and it sounds as if you don't). I have also had FinMac 2006 unexpectedly quit when I went to print a file, in fact I have the impression this is the most common trigger for an unexpected quit. Not entirely unexpected in fact.

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread dhbailey
bill wrote: Hi gang, Chuck got it right concerning "Update Layout" (command-\ on a Mac). Being a casual lurker, I must admit that this forum is the best I've seen, and those who read the postings here are being given first class advice for free. Bravo! However, after listening to you all

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread dhbailey
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: So, now that I wish to run 2 printers with my iMac G5, which has only one vacant USB port, is it ok to run both printers through a hub, or does that create some sort of problem of which I am presently unaware? In the worst case, one of

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread dhbailey
Carlberg Jones wrote: At 8:31 PM -0700 10/21/05, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: So, now that I wish to run 2 printers with my iMac G5, which has only one vacant USB port, is it ok to run both printers through a hub, or does that create some sort of problem of which I am presently unaware? Hubs

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

2005-10-22 Thread Bernardo G. Barros
Thank you very much you both. I think this font will work well. I cound't do this: In the Key Signature tool, choose "Nonstandard.." instead of major/minor.  Choose 'linear key format' selected, click 'next' twice. Click on 'KeyMap', and change to 24 diatonic steps for quartertones, or 48 for 8t

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

2005-10-22 Thread Owain Sutton
Bernardo G. Barros wrote: Thank you very much you both. I think this font will work well. I cound't do this: In the Key Signature tool, choose "Nonstandard.." instead of major/minor. Choose 'linear key format' selected, click 'next' twice. Click on 'KeyMap', and change to 24 diatonic steps f

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

2005-10-22 Thread Bernardo G. Barros
It worked!! I just couldn't save as a Library yet... On 10/22/05, Owain Sutton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Bernardo G. Barros wrote:>> Thank you very much you both.> I think this font will work well.>> I cound't do this:> In the Key Signature tool, choose "Nonstandard.." instead of > major/minor.

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:00 AM, Owain Sutton wrote: Ahhh, the delights of the nonstandard key signature. One of the most user-unfriendly features of Finale... ::deep breath:: ... (fantastically detailed description of work method snipped) Owain, you are the MAN! I haven't tried your method

[Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Bill Duncan, Glad to see you on the list, where I can publicly buttonhole you and ask you outright: Any chance of you coming up with a chord suffix font like your brilliant, ingenious ChordSuf, but that matches more closely with the JazzFont, to replace the inadequate JazzCord? I, for one, wo

Re: [Finale] RE: bass clarinet [going TAN]

2005-10-22 Thread John Howell
At 10:10 PM -0400 10/21/05, Raymond Horton wrote: Very useful advice, Keith! I try to teach high school trombone and euphonium players to read all clefs and as many transpositions as practical, too. For example - F horn transposition can be very useful for a euphonium or trombone player. If

Re: [Finale] A different printing question

2005-10-22 Thread Javier Ruiz
Hola Noel, In my experience page density for printed music should be close to 8% on average for orchestral music parts. So expect to print about 2/3 of the rated page count of the toner. [Note: You can measure density using Photoshop, selecting all and applying the average plug-in. The level of g

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
Ok ..well, for some reason, when I try to utilize either printer via the hub, they do not function. When I plug either in directly, they function fine. It is a Belkin powered bus. I think I don't understand. Dean On Oct 22, 2005, at 3:45 AM, dhbailey wrote: Carlberg Jones wrote: At 8:

Re: [Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet

2005-10-22 Thread Raymond Horton
John Bell wrote: There are a number of grey (or gray) areas in the field of instrumental transpositions. For instance, when I write a harmonic for double bass, I notate it at actual pitch in the treble clef. For all I know, this may be an out-of-date convention and I should be damned like S

Re: [Finale] A different printing question

2005-10-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Oct 21, 2005, at 6:04 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: I hypothesize that music is perhaps only 20 to 40 percent as dense as text, that is, where a standard page of a text document might be five percent density, that a page of music might be only one or two, and therefore, the number of pages o

Re: [Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet

2005-10-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Lon Price wrote: As a woodwind player, the only practical reason that I can see for writing the bass clef for bass clar. is the avoidance of a lot of ledger lines. As a clarinet player, I'm used to seeing 3 ledger lines below the staff, and 4 above. With the modern bass clar.'s abilit

Re: [Finale] Lost files

2005-10-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:30 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: if your work was meaningful to you, and had your own inner logic driving it, it should be possible to reconstruct it.  You can't get the time back, but you can take advantage of the problem to reexamine your work.  I would like to second t

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Perhaps a bad hub or a bad cable. I have two printers and a bunch of other stuff running off a hub. Works fine! Dean M. Estabrook wrote: Ok ..well, for some reason, when I try to utilize either printer via the hub, they do not function. When I plug either in directly, they function fine. It

Re: [Finale] RE: bass clarinet

2005-10-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Oct 21, 2005, at 9:26 PM, keith helgesen wrote: Some years ago, as a high school band teacher, I required my two bass clari players to read transposed Bass Clari parts (up 9th) and *concert pitch* bass clef. ... It may not be standard practice, but I have yet to find a downside to it!

Re: [Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet

2005-10-22 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Oct 22, 2005, at 12:22 AM, John Bell wrote: when I write a harmonic for double bass, I notate it at actual pitch in the treble clef. For all I know, this may be an out-of-date convention It is. Use treble clef with the octave transposition. At the very least, notate harmonics and non-har

Re: [Finale] Lost files

2005-10-22 Thread Chuck Israels
On Oct 22, 2005, at 10:38 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote:On Oct 21, 2005, at 8:30 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:  if your work was meaningful to you, and had your own inner logic driving it, it should be possible to reconstruct it.  You can't get the time back, but you can take advantage of the problem to reex

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

2005-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Eric Dannewitz wrote: But why not run BOTH printers off the USB hub? Hubs are like $10...it would make a lot more sense. I don't know that there is a good reason not to use a USB hub; but my failure to imagine such a good reason does not mean that such a reason may not exist unde

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread David W. Fenton
On 21 Oct 2005 at 22:40, bill wrote: > > On Oct 21, 2005, at 7:52 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > On 21 Oct 2005 at 18:09, bill wrote: > > > >> I'm > >> still on 2k5 and the Update Layout issue should not be an issue > >> since it was never a problem since Fin 98 (ish) up until recently. > >>

[Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: it really reeks havoc with the score spacing. Since I know from your recent posts that you are the kind of guy who hates to use the wrong homophone, I'm sure you won't take it badly when I point out that you probably meant to say "wreaks."

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On 21 Oct 2005 at 22:40, bill wrote: I feel really stupid: My Automatic Update in 2k5 upgrade was unchecked after many years of assuming that upgrading to the next "invaluable" version of Finale would preserve previous and relevant settings. This option is set the same as always in my ver

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Carl Dershem
Christopher Smith wrote: On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Raymond Horton wrote: it really reeks havoc with the score spacing. Since I know from your recent posts that you are the kind of guy who hates to use the wrong homophone, I'm sure you won't take it badly when I point out that you prob

[Finale] Order of notes

2005-10-22 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
I hope this is not a dumb question. Beat 1, bass staff: upper voice is a whole note middle C ; lower voice is b flat below middle C, stem down. Later upper voice is half note and later upper voice is quarter note. In what order should the three characters be placed? I could not find this addre

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread bill
Hi Christopher, I would be happy to except that MakeMusic would have to sanction it because of their copyright issues. I have had problems with them in the past, and they have absolutely no interest (that I know of) in the work I have done with my chord font set. Possibly you and other interest

Re: [Finale] Order of notes

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2005, at 3:26 PM, D. Keneth Fowler wrote: I hope this is not a dumb question. Beat 1, bass staff: upper voice is a whole note middle C ; lower voice is b flat below middle C, stem down. Later upper voice is half note and later upper voice is quarter note. In what order should the

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
Bill, I'll get right on it. Others who rant and rave at JazzCord's flaws, omissions and hair-pulling workarounds, feel free to join in! The address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Christopher On Oct 22, 2005, at 3:48 PM, bill wrote: Hi Christopher, I would be happy to except that MakeMusic would ha

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread Eric Dannewitz
One thing I actually like about the Jazz Font chords are the inclusion of using triangle shapes for Major chords and dashes for minor chords. I haven't seen these in the examples I've seen of ChordSuf font. Christopher Smith wrote: Bill, I'll get right on it. Others who rant and rave at JazzC

RE: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread keith helgesen
I saw a newspaper(Ausie!)headline recently- *New Orleans batons down the hatches* Gawd- I hate that!! Cheers K- in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Carl Dershem
keith helgesen wrote: I saw a newspaper(Ausie!)headline recently- *New Orleans batons down the hatches* And some folks say the disaster relief wasn't well conducted. ;) cd ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listin

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Eric, They are all there. Bill's chord font can be customized to suit the needs of many different styles. I am a big fan of the ChordSuf font, the softened slashes, and the rhythmic notation that are part of the look of this set. I'd be sorry to do without them. I don't use the Jazz fo

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Maybe they meant "Batten Rouge" :-) Chuck On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:21 PM, keith helgesen wrote: I saw a newspaper(Ausie!)headline recently- *New Orleans batons down the hatches* Gawd- I hate that!! Cheers K- in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Patterson
While the spacing may really have reeked, and havoc may actually have been wrought, the saying in this case is usually, "wreck havoc", for which I sfaik the correct past tense is "wrecked havoc". Carl Dershem wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: On Oct 22, 2005, at 1:33 PM, Raymond Horton wrote

[Finale] Order of notes

2005-10-22 Thread D. Keneth Fowler
Thanks, Christopher, for your reply to my question. And thanks for the updates on more recent versions of Finale. Ken ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread keith helgesen
Argh! Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Carl Dershem Sent: Sunday, 23 October 2005 6:33 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subjec

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I take back my previous comment. I see that his font indeed does have slashes and triangles... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Carl Dershem
Robert Patterson wrote: While the spacing may really have reeked, and havoc may actually have been wrought, the saying in this case is usually, "wreck havoc", for which I sfaik the correct past tense is "wrecked havoc". Not according to the OED or Webster. Wreak v.t. [ME wreken, from AS wrea

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: While the spacing may really have reeked, and havoc may actually have been wrought, the saying in this case is usually, "wreck havoc", for which I sfaik the correct past tense is "wrecked havoc". While I easily found dictionary entries f

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Chuck Israels
On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: the _expression_ "wreck havoc" doesn't make a lot of sense to me.Nor to me.  Sounds like a double negative.  If you "wreck havoc," do you restore order?Chuck Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 f

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Christopher Smith
On Oct 22, 2005, at 5:27 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:22 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:  the expression "wreck havoc" doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Nor to me.  Sounds like a double negative.  If you "wreck havoc," do you restore order? Heh heh. Kind of like "Is y

RE: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread keith helgesen
Nothing cures a headache better than Asprin!- (therefore use nothing?) Cheers K in OZ Keith Helgesen. Director of Music, Canberra City Band. Ph: (02) 62910787. Band Mob. 0439-620587 Private Mob 0417-042171 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Okay, so I looked a little further into this. First, googling "wreck havoc" yields countless examples, including many by seemingly professional writers. So, irrespective of its "correctness" it is definitely in the lexicon. Second, my dictionary, Websters New Collegiate 1981, allows "wreck h

Re: [Finale] Lost files

2005-10-22 Thread Brennon Bortz
I will definitely do so... On 10/22/05 3:29 AM, "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > John Bell wrote: > >> I'm afraid not, unless you have Auto Save on (and it sounds as if you >> don't). >> >> I have also had FinMac 2006 unexpectedly quit when I went to print a >> file, in fact I have the

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Brennon Bortz
On 10/21/05 10:24 PM, "Noel Stoutenburg" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Brennon Bortz wrote: > >> After opening a new default document and entering notes in Speedy Entry in >> Scroll View, I switch to Page View and suddenly notes have veered off the >> edges of the page on nearly every staff. Appl

Re: [Finale] Lost files

2005-10-22 Thread John Bell
I have done so John On 23 Oct 2005, at 00:11, Brennon Bortz wrote: I will definitely do so... On 10/22/05 3:29 AM, "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: John Bell wrote: I'm afraid not, unless you have Auto Save on (and it sounds as if you don't). I have also had FinMac 2006 une

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Bill, I don't think Chris meant that he wanted you to copy JazzChord exactly -- which would might involve copyright issues (although I don't know -- there are obviously lots of font knock-off versions out there). I think he just meant that he would be interested in a handwritten-looki

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Chuck Israels
Brennon, You'll figure this out pretty quickly. You might want to turn off "Maintain System Locks" unless you have already done some page layout work that you don't want to lose. In my case, I save this part of my work until I have the whole piece done in scroll view. (That's just the wa

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Christopher Smith wrote: While I easily found dictionary entries for "wreak havoc", "play havoc" and "cry havoc", I didn't find one for "wreck havoc." In fact, given the definition of havoc (mayhem, destruction, etc.) the expression "wreck havoc" doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Do you hav

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 22 Oct 2005, at 7:17 PM, Brennon Bortz wrote: In the meantime, I can tell you that "Reflow Measures Across Systems (Maintain System Locks)" is selected, but "Automatic Update Layout" is not. All the emails I've read have me thoroughly confused...should this be checked or not? Checked.

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Brennon Bortz wrote: In the meantime, I can tell you that "Reflow Measures Across Systems (Maintain System Locks)" is selected, OK. Check to see if there is an option for "reflow measures across systems, (remove system locks):, and try that instead. Truth to tell, at first I though that it

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
keith helgesen wrote: I saw a newspaper(Ausie!)headline recently- *New Orleans batons down the hatches* Yes, well, given that a "baton" is a stick, presumably with the capability of knocking something down (if only a beat), and given the damage and havoc wrought in New Orleans, I'm not sure

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Noel, Brennon, I strongly recommend _not_ selecting this setting (reflow+remove locks), _especially_ not if "Automatic Update Layout" is on. It makes it impossible to lock systems -- they will be unlocked immediately by "Auto Update Layout." If you need to manually remove system locks, yo

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Carl Dershem
Noel Stoutenburg wrote: keith helgesen wrote: I saw a newspaper(Ausie!)headline recently- *New Orleans batons down the hatches* Yes, well, given that a "baton" is a stick, presumably with the capability of knocking something down (if only a beat), and given the damage and havoc wrought in

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2005, at 11:53 AM, David W. Fenton wrote: Well, I definitely disagree with that. I certainly think, as I just said, that it's a bug (or a poorly designed feature) that changes settings when you upgrade over top of an existing installation, but I would *not* want to use a Finale that l

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2005, at 5:37 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: What are the disadvantages, if any, of checking this? If you have a very slow computer, Finale may become slightly more sluggish. But it's really not an issue on any computer with a 1 GHz processor or faster. It's not only about speed.

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2005, at 12:13 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: PS - one I hear more and more often is "wreaked" where they really should say "wrought". There is nothing wrong with "wreaked". "Wrought" is a past tense of the verb "work" in its old-fashioned, transitive sense (as in, "God works miracles"

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

2005-10-22 Thread Mark D Lew
On Oct 22, 2005, at 12:04 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Other substitutions I see all the time are "affect" and "effect", as in "he effected a change that affected everyone," and "wet" for "whet", as in "we can whet our appetites with a bite of cheese, and then we can wet our fingers in the fi

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

2005-10-22 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Mark, Nothing needs to "bounces around" with Automatic Update Layout on, so long as you choose the appropriate Update Layout settings for your work (like, for instance, "Reflow only within systems"). The advantage to leaving Update Layout on is that you are never caught looking at mea

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs) now TAN grammar again

2005-10-22 Thread Raymond Horton
Thanks. I remember thinking that was probably wrong when I typed it, but left it, counting on my spell checker to help me out. It left me hi and drei, of course, since "reek" is correctly spelled - merely the wrong word. (I obviously need to watch my P's and Q's on this list after my earl

Re: [Finale] Jazz version of ChordSuf?

2005-10-22 Thread bill
Hi Darcy and others, No one I know uses or likes the Jazz fonts, so I had no idea that there was so much interest in this. Is it possible for you or someone to send me a pdf scan of what you think is ideal? Also, Chuck Israels and Greg Hamilton expressed interest in a jazz articulation font