Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

>> >> What I say is: either use proper computer fonts for music, or >> switch off and take to pen and ink again. > > I fall in to this camp, but I am curious about the things that Mark > describes. I am not at all unhappy with the engraved look of my > music in Maestro and Bill Duncan's additio

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 7:59 PM, John Bell wrote: What I say is: either use proper computer fonts for music, or switch off and take to pen and ink again. I fall in to this camp, but I am curious about the things that Mark describes. I am not at all unhappy with the engraved look of my mu

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

When computers first began writing music, there was an immediate problem with musicians who were accustomed to reading both from printed and handwritten parts. Printed parts were regarded as somehow official and trustworthy, whereas everyone knew that handwritten parts were prone to copyists' mista

RE: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

This randomness is supposedly a property of the new Sibelius font (Helsinki, is it?). Also check out the November font created by Robert Piechaud. The LilyPond website, I believe, also deals with this issue (if ya wanna use a command-line interface or something like it.) Jim

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:41 AM, Chuck Israels wrote: The more I think about it, the more it seems to me that my eye understands that the built in purposeful imperfection of a computer produced "hand looking" character will be the same every time it is printed, and there's an intuitive dissonance

Re: [Finale] Lyrics and IPA-Fonts

On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:21 AM, Luís Antunes Pena wrote: I am having a problem with the IPA-Fonts as Lyrics on Finale 2005 (International Phonetic Alphabet - Font: SILSophiaIPA-Regular). MSWord can show all the characters perfectly but Finale does not represent the accents. I attached a small pdf

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:54 AM, Andrew Stiller wrote: According to a usage note in my dictionary (the excellent American Heritage College Dictionary, 3d ed.), "The past tense and past participle of wreak is wreaked, not wrought, which is an alternative past tense and past participle of work."

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Glad to help! - Don on 10/24/05 5:41 PM, Chuck Israels at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Thanks again, Don. > > Chuck on 10/24/05 5:50 PM, Christopher Smith at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Thanks for that. > > Christopher > > > > On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:53 PM, Don Hart wrote: > >> Hi Chuck an

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Well, I'll be darned! I've been dragging those darned things around forever! I never knew! I still have to nudge them away from accidentals (unless I duplicate an alternate with new positioning, not a bad idea), and I adjusted some of your numbers, but hey, it works! Thanks for that. Christ

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 12:53 PM, Don Hart wrote:Hi Chuck and Christopher,Unless I misunderstand, you can choose "center over note" and fix automaticpositioning left or right of the note by adjusting the values in the "handlepositioning" dialog box, which is accessed through the "handle positioning"but

Re: [Finale] Ossia, I think

Ah, thanks. Dean On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:28 PM, Karen wrote: Hi Dean, Here ya go... I do this as a stemless grace note "chord" if you will. I have a text expression, two brackets, that I then add as a note attached expression. -K ___ Fin

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Hi all, I can imbed horizontal offsets in the font so that scoops and falls place correctly by clicking directly on the note (with some help using H & V handle position values in the Articulations Editor). I have had much success with this in my Salzedo font (the L.V. symbol...sideways parenthesi

Re: [Finale] Ossia, I think

Hi Dean, Here ya go... I do this as a stemless grace note "chord" if you will. I have a text expression, two brackets, that I then add as a note attached expression. -K ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/li

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Hi Chuck and Christopher, Unless I misunderstand, you can choose "center over note" and fix automatic positioning left or right of the note by adjusting the values in the "handle positioning" dialog box, which is accessed through the "handle positioning" button in the Articulation Designer dialog.

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 11:33 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: There will always be a problem placing non-centred articulations like a fall or scoop, because the horizontal positioning works from your click point. If you are a millimetre too far left, then the articulation will be, too. The bend

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 12:41 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Here are the jazz articulations I use. They are not terrible, but not good either, and they don't match the consistency of Maestro. I haven't been able to figure out how to get the handle positions set on the first two so that they will be

Re: [Finale] trill notation question

On Oct 23, 2005, at 5:41 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hard to believe that this is the first time I've encountered a situation in which trill notation is ambiguous, but Anyway, I'm in F minor, and there's a flute trill from G flat, and I want it to trill to A flat. Do I indicate tr natural?

Re: [Finale] OT: Stiller Instrumentation Book

On Oct 23, 2005, at 11:54 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Can anyone summarize (or point me to a summary) of the changes in the 2nd edition? In particular, I am interested if there are extensive updates on usage and availability of percussion, since the 1st edition I have (1985) is probably quite

Re: [Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet

On Oct 23, 2005, at 11:02 AM, John Howell wrote: When I include EEb and BBb contra parts in an arrangement, I write them transposed as for a normal member of the clarinet family, but I always wonder whether a player will be able to read those parts. Worry no more. Nobody plays contra clarin

Re: [Finale] Ossia, I think

Hmmm ... David ... didn't think about that ... thanks. Dean On Oct 24, 2005, at 3:26 AM, dhbailey wrote: Dean M. Estabrook wrote: What is the easiest way to create, in a band score, a notational diagram for the Timp part, to let the player know what pitches will be used? I'll check t

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

However, at , Agatha Christie is credited with first use of "wreaked havoc" in 1923 This is highly unlikely. The OED (wh. I would take to be the court of final appeal in such matters, at least up to the date of its pubn.) treats wrought not as the pp

Re: [Finale] Ossia, I think

Yeah, the ossia tool with a scratch staff seems to be the easiest to manage. Thanks, Dean On Oct 23, 2005, at 4:44 PM, Carolyn Bremer wrote: Two options for this: 1) Ossia tool as mentioned 2) A new (additional) first bar in the timpani part. Set the next bar (the first real bar of music)

Re: [Finale] Ossia, I think

Karen ... did you have something to say here? My message window was blank. Dean On Oct 23, 2005, at 3:58 PM, Karen wrote: ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

I can get on board with the fear factor ... keep looking out for me guys, no matter which side of the issue you're coming from believe me, I appreciate all the info. Dean On Oct 24, 2005, at 5:09 AM, Javier Ruiz wrote: Sorry to disagree but... ...even USB 1.1 is 12 Mbps which is fast

Re: [Finale] Laser printer advice

Cool... thanks. Dean On Oct 24, 2005, at 12:58 AM, dc wrote: Dean M. Estabrook écrit: Where did you get such cartridge? On e-Bay... where I also got my HP 8150 for very little. Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.sh

Re: [Finale] Microtonality and Glissandos

Could someone remind me what the glissando half of this original query was about? I think I meant to answer it, but got distracted by microtones! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Christopher Smith / 2005/10/24 / 12:47 PM wrote: >We DO agree, however, that it is best to use EITHER alpha-numeric >symbols (Cm7, Cdim7), OR geometric ones (C-7, Cº7), and not to mix >them. Ooo, I don't agree. Sorry. The _correct_ reason won't do any good if musician plays wrong. For that, m

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

On Oct 22, 2005, at 4:47 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: While the spacing may really have reeked, and havoc may actually have been wrought, the saying in this case is usually, "wreck havoc", for which I sfaik the correct past tense is "wrecked havoc". The same usage note referenced in my other

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

On Oct 22, 2005, at 3:13 PM, Carl Dershem wrote: PS - one I hear more and more often is "wreaked" where they really should say "wrought". According to a usage note in my dictionary (the excellent American Heritage College Dictionary, 3d ed.), "The past tense and past participle of wreak is

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Assuming that Mr. Duncan does not use the Jazz Font, this articulation font should be based around Maestro (or I believe his version of Maestro). I'd want scoops that attach properly to a note. But not scoops like in the Sher Real book. Those look lame. Something more like the Jazz Font's scoo

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 12:05 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Anyone remember Newport font which contained all the useful articulations such as fall? This is one of the reasons I can't open many of my big band charts anymore :-( I have to sight-read jazz chart a few times a week, and I have so many pet

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 23, 2005, at 10:33 PM, bill wrote: Hi guys, Chuck, would you like to be my sales rep??? hehehe You are so kind to talk about my stuff the way you do. You're welcome, - it's just the way I feel. Finale makes things easier for me that used to be difficult - editing and changing

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 9:05 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: Anyone remember Newport font which contained all the useful articulations such as fall? This is one of the reasons I can't open many of my big band charts anymore :-( Yes, Hiro, I do, and I kept a copy of it for the longest time, but it wa

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Anyone remember Newport font which contained all the useful articulations such as fall? This is one of the reasons I can't open many of my big band charts anymore :-( I have to sight-read jazz chart a few times a week, and I have so many pet peeves. Jazz font is certainly not easier than Maestr

Re: [Finale] Laser printer advice

>And I would note that I did not mean to suggest that all do; what I did >learned when I was first looking into the matter was that while not all >manufacters used the scheme, and while some who did did not use it for >all models, at the time I did investigated the matter, the cartridges >for s

Re: [Finale] changing clefs in bass clarinet

At 12:13 AM +0100 10/24/05, Ken Moore wrote: John Howell wrote: There's also another factor that no one has mentioned. Bass clarinet is one thing, but EEb contra-alto is another. Most educational arrangements do not have separate parts for the EEb contra. Therefore, EEb players are stuck

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

On Oct 24, 2005, at 1:33 AM, bill wrote: I had a thought about about a new articulations font: From what I am hearing, there are not a lot of jazz articulations needed, so I am thinking about an all-inclusive "Articulations" font that contains everything (both jazz and legit). There seems t

Re: [Finale] One last Printer Item

Sorry to disagree but... ...even USB 1.1 is 12 Mbps which is faster than ethernet 10. With low-end printers the bottleneck is always in the printer (processor and memory) and the printing engine (pages per minute). Let´s not scare Dean more than necessary... ;) Javier. > Dean, > > As I recall

Re: [Finale] Lyrics and IPA-Fonts

On Oct 24, 2005, at 6:21 AM, Luís Antunes Pena wrote: Hello, I am having a problem with the IPA-Fonts as Lyrics on Finale 2005 (International Phonetic Alphabet - Font: SILSophiaIPA-Regular). MSWord can show all the characters perfectly but Finale does not represent the accents. I attached a sm

Re: [Finale] trill notation question

Owain Sutton wrote: I'd not rely on this assumption. If the trill was on G natural, then yes, I'd accept the 'diatonic default'. But G flat is far enough away from the tonic key to potentially introduce all sorts of chromatic ambiguity. Not for any musicians I've ever worked with nor for

Re: [Finale] Ossia, I think

Dean M. Estabrook wrote: What is the easiest way to create, in a band score, a notational diagram for the Timp part, to let the player know what pitches will be used? I'll check the ossia proceedure, but if I want just note heads, what's the process? I just list the pitches from high

Re: [Finale] homophones (was changing clefs)

Mark D Lew wrote: On Oct 23, 2005, at 1:25 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I wish you had not shown me this website, except that now according to (I believe it was) Mark Lew, I can be the life of any party. Not me. I think it was David Bailey. I do acknowlege that distinction -- at many par

Re: [Finale] trill notation question

Chuck Israels wrote: Hard to believe that this is the first time I've encountered a situation in which trill notation is ambiguous, but Anyway, I'm in F minor, and there's a flute trill from G flat, and I want it to trill to A flat. Do I indicate tr natural? or tr flat? Just what do

[Finale] Lyrics and IPA-Fonts

Hello, I am having a problem with the IPA-Fonts as Lyrics on Finale 2005 (International Phonetic Alphabet - Font: SILSophiaIPA-Regular). MSWord can show all the characters perfectly but Finale does not represent the accents. I attached a small pdf file with an example. Thank you for any help, Rega

Re: [Finale] Notes EVERYWHERE

David W. Fenton wrote: On 22 Oct 2005 at 20:58, Darcy James Argue wrote: If you need to manually remove system locks, you can do that in the Mass Edit tool, by pressing cmd-A (or on Windows, ctrl-A) for "Select All," and then cmd-U (or, I think, ctrl-U on Windows) to unlock all systems. The

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Aha. Here's a sample page available online: - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Possible new fonts (jazz chords and articulations)

Bill, It's just their font that is not for sale. The book itself is easily available. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://homepage.mac.com/djargon Brooklyn, NY On 24 Oct 2005, at 1:33 AM, bill wrote: Hi guys, Chuck, would you like to be m