Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Completely different issue than a file extension. And that is a OS 9 and before thing, so, maybe 6 years ago that would be a fair dig. But it's about as outdated now as Floppy disks. Oh, but Windows still uses those You can read up on OS X via Wikipedia or even http://arstechnica.com/r

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 10:58 PM 10/1/06 +0200, Daniel Wolf wrote: >And one more test: I compiled a Postscript listing of the same score in >Finale Does Finale 2007 allow custom page sizes for compiling? Up through 2006, you could put custom sizes in the height and width boxes, but it would only use what was select

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Phil Daley
At 01:24 PM 9/30/2006, David W. Fenton wrote: >Curiously enough, my understanding is that the next version of OS X >as well as Windows Vista will offer a similar feature in their >default configurations (though it's not going to be implemented >exactly the same way -- it's going to allow file ver

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Don Hart
On the Mac side, I've had a good, though still limited experience with the freeware PDFLab. Someone on this list may have originally brought it to my attention. I also just discovered, in answer to my question from about a week ago, that it can print a watermark in the background, either text or

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:36 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 30 Sep 2006, at 4:28 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: Does that mean you cannot force another app to open any file on Mac? Or is the 'sticky' association more of a convenience? The latter. I can, for instance, drag my Finale files t

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Don Hart
Thank you Noel and Bruce, and Dennis! I passed your information along. - Don ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Changing notes to cue notes after lyrics are added

2006-09-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:18 PM, Bruce K H Kau wrote: Aloha, I had some lead sheets that I had typed in the notes in (regular size), and added the lyrics. Later on, I had decided that a certain set of notes (in layer 2, it turns out), needed to be in cue size. So, I went to Mass Mover, chang

Re: [Finale] Linked Parts

2006-09-30 Thread Chuck Israels
I am now trying the method David describes below for the first time, and I find that it works pretty well but for the fact that the beams are un-editable in the parts. (Special Tools will not move them.) Since the beam placement is done in the score with two or more notes on the stem, the

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Daniel Wolf
And one more test: I compiled a Postscript listing of the same score in Finale (3.58 MB) and then converted it with FreePDF, file size 105KB, with PDF Creator, 106KB, and with Adobe Acrobat 114. Daniel Wolf wrote: Just for fun, I generated a PDF of a Finale 2007 Windows score with three dif

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Daniel Wolf
Just for fun, I generated a PDF of a Finale 2007 Windows score with three different PDF programs, called up as printers within Finale. I see no major differences in the quality of the documents, but, for whatever it's worth, there are differences in the sizes of the files: with Adobe Acroba

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 4:28 PM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 03:47 PM 9/30/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's just a little smarter about it than Windows -- it knows which applications can open which file types. If I change the file extension of a Finale document to ".doc", it will still ope

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 03:47 PM 9/30/06 -0400, Darcy James Argue wrote: >It's just a little smarter about it than Windows -- it knows which >applications can open which file types. If I change the file >extension of a Finale document to ".doc", it will still open in >Finale, not Word. If I change the file extens

[Finale] Changing notes to cue notes after lyrics are added

2006-09-30 Thread Bruce K H Kau
Aloha, I had some lead sheets that I had typed in the notes in (regular size), and added the lyrics. Later on, I had decided that a certain set of notes (in layer 2, it turns out), needed to be in cue size. So, I went to Mass Mover, changed the note size, and the lyrics shrunk, too! I know i

Re: [Finale] OT : Print on demand services for early music

2006-09-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Kim Patrick Clow wrote: A couple of months ago, we discussed how radically things were changed by the advent of desktop publishing. One of the biggest reasons I'm afraid to just publish my editions on my own has been one of being practical. I don't know how distribution works, or if you have a

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Bruce K H Kau
For creating PDFs in Windows, I've settled on PDF Creator at http://sector7g.wurzel6.de/pdfcreator/ Free, Open Source, not nagware, and very easy to setup and use. It will also install Ghostscript for you. Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: At 01:45 AM 9/30/06 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: To prov

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 3:42 PM, Richard Yates wrote: What you have to know is different between Mac and Windows, but you still have to have certain knowledge to keep things running smoothly. Not true at all. Now this is simply disingenuous. How many years did I hear Mac folks tell each oth

Humble pie [was Re: [Finale] Two little questions]

2006-09-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Friends: Christopher wrote advocating automatically checking for updates; the same facility he describes for MAC is available in Windows, too, so that if one wants have checking for updates automatic, it can be done. I prefer not to have it done automatically, and while I do not necessarily

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 3:31 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Not true at all. You stated above that the Mac has metadata that keeps track of things. So, even though I have .BAK word and .BAK Finale and other files, the Mac OS can open the right program to run them. Hell, you can even get rid of the ex

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Richard Yates
> > What you > > have to know is different between Mac and Windows, but you still have > > to have certain knowledge to keep things running smoothly. > > > Not true at all. Now this is simply disingenuous. How many years did I hear Mac folks tell each other to 'rebuild the desktop' or to something

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Will Denayer wrote: Thank you everyone, Now it makes sense again. However, I do not seem to be able to open a BAK.file (I can't find it inside Finale and when I click on the icon, Windows says that it cannot open the document but that it can look up the program on the net. When I click OK, noth

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
David W. Fenton wrote: No, learn how to use your Windows machine. Yes, the Mac has metadata and keeps data about file creator and which application to use to open it, which means multiple apps can use the same file assocation (at least, it used to be that way -- did OS X's UNIX origins remove

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 2:47 PM, David W. Fenton wrote:It's hard to figure out what's best for these kinds of choices, especially when one OS has a top-level PREFERENCES menu. Is that a standard Mac UI convention? I haven't used Mac enough to know.There is no top-level "Preferences" menu in OS X.There i

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 15:07, Scott Jones wrote: > Even fewer steps... right click the file and choose OPEN WITH and > then choose Finale200x version that you wish to open it with. If it > is a finale Bak it will show Finale as an option to open it with. That's right click on WinXP and Win2K3 Serv

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Scott Jones
Even fewer steps... right click the file and choose OPEN WITH and then choose Finale200x version that you wish to open it with. If it is a finale Bak it will show Finale as an option to open it with. ___ J. Scott Jones Band/Orchestra Di

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 14:34, Darcy James Argue wrote: > So yes, on Mac, the Program Options menu is found in the standard > place for all Preferences in OS X. On Windows, it's in the Edit menu > (which seems logical enough to me, but I'm not a Windows user). It's not a Windows standard. "Preference

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 2:19 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I didn't mean to imply that Finale used the OS-specific convention for placement of a preferences dialog -- I only said that this was the kind of menu option that it was *appropriate* for there to be differences between Mac and Windows. Yes, a

Re: [Finale] OT : Print on demand services for early music

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:37 AM 9/30/06 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >I'm curious if anyone knows anyone who has used this service? Or has any >feedback or thoughts on it? Just a followup ... it was Lightning Source in Tennessee. https://www.lightningsource.com/ Dennis _

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 14:00, Darcy James Argue wrote: > On 30 Sep 2006, at 1:25 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: > > > I was wondering exactly when MM started forking the menus in Windows > > and Mac so they weren't the same. That seems a disastrous decision > > to me, unless it only applies to something l

Re: [Finale] OT : Print on demand services for early music

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 11:37 AM 9/30/06 -0400, Kim Patrick Clow wrote: >I'm curious if anyone knows anyone who has used this service? Or has any >feedback or thoughts on it? I have used on-demand printing for this book, which I edited and designed: http://www.amazon.com/Marching-Browns-Ghost-Civil-Rights/dp/0965932

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 19:59, dc wrote: > David W. Fenton écrit: > >I haven't tried linked parts, but can't you set it to the right > >location in the score, then ctrl-drag in the score (which I'd assume > >would unlink it) to the correct location for the score? That would > >mean moving it only once.

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 1:25 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: I was wondering exactly when MM started forking the menus in Windows and Mac so they weren't the same. That seems a disastrous decision to me, unless it only applies to something like PREFERENCES which are traditionally EDIT | PREFERENCES on Mac

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 1:51 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Yes, the Mac has metadata and keeps data about file creator and which application to use to open it, which means multiple apps can use the same file assocation (at least, it used to be that way -- did OS X's UNIX origins remove that?). Yes. OS

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 10:40, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > David W. Fenton wrote: > > On 30 Sep 2006 at 8:29, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > > > >> Um, Windows. Go figure... > >> > >> Try renaming the file from .BAK to .MUS. That will work. If the BAK > >> file is in the same directory as the original .MUS

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yes, it is ridiculous. On a Mac when you double click the backup file, it opens with FinaleHowever, on my XP machine, if you double click on a .BAK file, it opens with Word. Life is too short. Get a Mac. David W. Fenton wrote: On 30 Sep 2006 at 8:29, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Um, Win

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 8:23, Chuck Israels wrote: > Just got up and read the list posts. I was wondering where I had > gone wrong, and what Noel found wanting in my suggestions to Will. I > have been using Finale for so long that I operate a lot of it on a > subconscious level, making it a slow pr

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 7:26, Christopher Smith wrote: > Upon installation (at least in the Mac version) you are asked if you > want to periodically check for updates. If you answered yes, and your > computer is connected to the Internet constantly as many are these > days, then you will be informed

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 8:29, Eric Dannewitz wrote: > Um, Windows. Go figure... > > Try renaming the file from .BAK to .MUS. That will work. If the BAK > file is in the same directory as the original .MUS file, rename one of > them like Mygreatscore_bak.mus or Mygreatscore_oldmus.mus This just rid

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Sep 2006 at 7:30, Christopher Smith wrote: > On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:27 AM, dc wrote: > > > Apologies if I'm stating something obvious, but I just realized, > > after complaining about the the placement of measure numbers in > > linked parts, that one could unlink them by simply selecting

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Richard Yates
No, no, no. In the open dialog box in Finale just use the dropdown menu to show All Files instead of only .mus files. It will open fine without anything as complicated as changing the extension. The reason Windows doesn't know how to open it is that many applications use the 'bak' extension, not ju

[Finale] OT : Print on demand services for early music

2006-09-30 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
A couple of months ago, we discussed how radically things were changed by the advent of desktop publishing.   One of the biggest reasons I'm afraid to just publish my editions on my own has been one of being practical. I don't know how distribution works, or if you have a website on the Internet, w

[Finale] Expressions bug

2006-09-30 Thread Carl Dershem
Using FinWin2k4. Working on a piece with lyrics (never my favorite) and suddenly all of my expressions and lyrics vanish. Any idea why this might happen? Any clue as to how to recover, other than manually? Thanks! cd -- http://www.livejournal.com/users/dershem/#

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Michael Cook
Have you tried changing the .BAK extension to .MUS? On 30 Sep 2006, at 17:23, Will Denayer wrote: Thank you everyone, Now it makes sense again. However, I do not seem to be able to open a BAK.file (I can't find it inside Finale and when I click on the icon, Windows says that it cannot open th

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Um, Windows. Go figure... Try renaming the file from .BAK to .MUS. That will work. If the BAK file is in the same directory as the original .MUS file, rename one of them like Mygreatscore_bak.mus or Mygreatscore_oldmus.mus Will Denayer wrote: Thank you everyone, Now it makes sense again

Re: [Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Christopher Smith
Just edit the extension so that it is .mus and Finale will open it fine. Christopher On Sep 30, 2006, at 11:23 AM, Will Denayer wrote: Thank you everyone, Now it makes sense again. However, I do not seem to be able to open a BAK.file (I can't find it inside Finale and when I click on the i

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Chuck Israels
Just got up and read the list posts. I was wondering where I had gone wrong, and what Noel found wanting in my suggestions to Will. I have been using Finale for so long that I operate a lot of it on a subconscious level, making it a slow process to remember and identify what I do when I n

[Finale] BAK.files

2006-09-30 Thread Will Denayer
Thank you everyone, Now it makes sense again. However, I do not seem to be able to open a BAK.file (I can't find it inside Finale and when I click on the icon, Windows says that it cannot open the document but that it can look up the program on the net. When I click OK, nothing happens). It's jus

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 30 Sep 2006, at 3:27 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Will Denayer wrote: Hello All, I am completely new to Finale. I bought Finale 2007 just a couple of days ago. Congratulations, Dr. Denayer. I think you will find you have acquired top-flight notation software. I find myself respectfull

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey
Michael Cook wrote: If you drag-select with the mouse, making sure that the first thing that is covered by the dragging rectangle is a measure number, only measure numbers should be selected. That's good news but it only works for the measure numbers on a single page, then, so the effort wo

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: When I select the measure tool and hit ctrl-a, all the handles, including the barlines, are selected. And while barlines aren't affected by up-down nudging, they are affected by left-right nudging, so if I chose to shift the numbers left-right, barlines (and thus som

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread Michael Cook
If you drag-select with the mouse, making sure that the first thing that is covered by the dragging rectangle is a measure number, only measure numbers should be selected. On 30 Sep 2006, at 14:17, dhbailey wrote: I was just wondering if there was a way to select ONLY the measure number han

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: How does one select all the measure numbers and no other measure-tool handles? Ctrl A seems to select all the measure numbers and nothing else. But what other handles do you have, besides the two or three attached to each measure, which aren't affected by nudging?

Re: [Finale] Save as pdf

2006-09-30 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
At 01:45 AM 9/30/06 -0500, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: >To provide some balance to David and Dennis, my preferred method of >generating ~.pdf files in windows [XP Home (SP2) is to use a driver for >a postscript printer to generate a ~.ps file, then to use Ghostview / >Ghostscript [GV/GS] to convert

Re: [Finale] differences in playback-MIDI vs. AU/VST

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey
Apologies to the list for that meaningless reposting -- I had meant to close without sending and my brain is only half awake so I hit the wrong button. Oops. David H. Bailey dhbailey wrote: Randolph Peters wrote: Darcy Argue wrote: I'm talking about performance, specifically Mac performance

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey
Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:27 AM, dc wrote: Apologies if I'm stating something obvious, but I just realized, after complaining about the the placement of measure numbers in linked parts, that one could unlink them by simply selecting them all and dragging them down (or u

Re: [Finale] differences in playback-MIDI vs. AU/VST

2006-09-30 Thread dhbailey
Randolph Peters wrote: Darcy Argue wrote: I'm talking about performance, specifically Mac performance. AU performance is objectively much better than performance via an external host, like Garritan Studio -- AU supports greater polyphony with fewer dropouts and less distortion on the same syst

Re: [Finale] Measure numbers in linked parts

2006-09-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 30, 2006, at 4:27 AM, dc wrote: Apologies if I'm stating something obvious, but I just realized, after complaining about the the placement of measure numbers in linked parts, that one could unlink them by simply selecting them all and dragging them down (or up). Really? That's so

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Sep 30, 2006, at 3:27 AM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Will Denayer wrote: Hello All, I am completely new to Finale. I bought Finale 2007 just a couple of days ago. I would also recommend periodically checking in at the MakeMusic! website; two or three times a year, there are maintenanc

Re: [Finale] Two little questions

2006-09-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Will Denayer wrote: Hello All, I am completely new to Finale. I bought Finale 2007 just a couple of days ago. Congratulations, Dr. Denayer. I think you will find you have acquired top-flight notation software. I find myself respectfully disagreeing with Chuck: you can specify which view y