I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the
outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions?
What is the best way to get bariolage beaming? Ie, first note down,
second note up, third note down, fourth note up, all ups beamed to
gether, all downs beamed
In a message dated 11/03/2007 00:47:13 GMT Standard Time,
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Set your layer to 2. One of the cool things about Show... is that
edits applied to the showing layer DO NOT affect other layers.
Thanks!
The above is something I had no idea about - it makes lots of
I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down,
hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin
to create the beams.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 11 Mar 2007, at 10:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I know this has been
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down, hiding the
rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to create the beams.
That, unfortunately, doesn't work, as it breaks the secondary beams on
the rests as soon as I
Are there settings for tuplet slurs which produce acceptable slurs? So
far I have been completely unsuccessful trying to get slurs which look
like slurs. So I have used real slurs instead, but that has the
disadvantage of ignoring the tuplet numbers for the slur placement.
Johannes
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Hey Johannes,
Sorry, I thought these were just eighths -- didn't realize there were
secondary beams involved.
I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests?
(It affects the entire document, obviously.)
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 11 Mar
On 11 Mar 2007, at 12:22 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
Are there settings for tuplet slurs which produce acceptable slurs?
No.
Cheers,
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On 11 Mar 2007, at 12:26 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote:
I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests?
(It affects the entire document, obviously.)
Oh, wait -- I see that doesn't even work. Hidden rests *always* break
secondary beams. What a pain.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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At 04:43 PM 3/11/2007 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I would suggest using separate layers for stems-up and stems-down,
hiding the rests, then using Robert Patterson's Beam Selection plugin to
create the beams.
That, unfortunately, doesn't work, as it
It's tedious, but I've gotten good results by throwing hidden tuplets
into the mix: no need for hidden rests then. (That is, 3 16ths in the
time of 3 8ths, or whatever.)
On 3/11/07, Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hey Johannes,
Sorry, I thought these were just eighths -- didn't
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
Oh, wait -- I see that doesn't even work. Hidden rests *always* break secondary
beams. What a pain.
Indeed. And for no reason I can find.
Johannes
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On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
You can do that, then use the extend secondary beam tool, choose the left
handle, double click for the dialog box, check only the secondary beams
(not the primary beam), and drag it to the right.
If you dislike the tiny gap it leaves on the left side,
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
I assume you can't just check Extend Secondary Beams Over Rests? (It affects
the entire document, obviously.)
Try it, as soon as you hide the rests this setting does not have any
effect any more. At least as far as I can work out.
Johannes
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On 11.03.2007 Robert Patterson wrote:
It's tedious, but I've gotten good results by throwing hidden tuplets
into the mix: no need for hidden rests then. (That is, 3 16ths in the
time of 3 8ths, or whatever.)
I am not sure I get this. I am talking about four note patterns.
Johannes
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On 3/11/07, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not sure I get this. I am talking about four note patterns.
Here's how to do 4-patterns of 16ths and have them all metrically
align correctly. (That is, 2 stems up and 2 stems down in each group.)
All tuplets are hidden.
L1: 2 16ths
On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the
outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions?
What is the best way to get bariolage beaming? Ie, first note down,
second note up, third note down, fourth
On 11.03.2007 Darcy James Argue wrote:
Are there settings for tuplet slurs which produce acceptable slurs?
No.
What a disaster. Why wasn't this fixed when they did Engraver tuplets?
Oh well.
Johannes
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On 11.03.2007 Christopher Smith wrote:
Am I missing something? I had no trouble in FinMac entering eighth note, eighth
rest for a bar of 4/4 in layer 1, then going back and beaming everything
together (watch what you are on, because if you hit the / while on a NOTE, it
BREAKS the beam and you
On Mar 11, 2007, at 12:51 PM, Christopher Smith wrote:
On Mar 11, 2007, at 10:44 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
I know this has been discussed in the past, but I forgot what the
outcome was, and perhaps there are better ways in newer versions?
What is the best way to get bariolage beaming?
At 05:39 PM 3/11/2007 +0100, Johannes Gebauer wrote:
On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
You can do that, then use the extend secondary beam tool, choose the left
handle, double click for the dialog box, check only the secondary beams
(not the primary beam), and drag it to the right.
On 11.03.2007 Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote:
You mean, I should do that for like 12 measures? Isn't there a better
way to do this?
I don't know. It's just a few clicks drags from my p.o.v., and you can
drag-copy the measure first and change pitches later if that helps.
Actually, in this
On 3/11/07, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Robert's MassCopy plugin,
For future reference, Mass Copy can also copy tuplets, so once you've
entered the tedious tuplet pattern once, it is easy to replicate.
It has occurred to me that it would be quite feasible to create a
Bariolage
I may need to export EPS or postscript into ILLUSTRATOR to achieve certain
editorial conventions.
I cannot select stems in beamed eighth notes as an Item to adjust in
ILLUSTRATOR. I can select noteheads, the beams themselves, and flags on
various note values.
I hope someone else has tried and
Is this the kind of beaming you're after?:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg
I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the custom stem tool
to create blank stems for the skipped ones. The hidden rests are at the
ends of the groups, so there's no problems
I would like to combine several movements of an orch. score using Fin07.
But when I insert measures into the combined file, I lose my
hand-crafted beat chart spacing (for some measures, not for others). Has
anyone else seen this? Is there a workaround?
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Cool solution, Owain.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 11 Mar 2007, at 1:39 PM, Owain Sutton wrote:
Is this the kind of beaming you're after?:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg
I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the
On 11.03.2007 Owain Sutton wrote:
Is this the kind of beaming you're after?:
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g3/owainsutton/bariolage.jpg
I just put in groups of seven semiquavers, and used the custom stem tool
to create blank stems for the skipped ones. The hidden rests are at the
ends of
henry,
this may or not solve the problem, but there are two different
selection tools in illustrator that function quite differently. also
make sure to click outside everything (eg. outside the page edge) to
make sure NOTHING is selected before clicking on an item to select.
i haven't had
I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.).
They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them
apply to the score globally?
TIA,
Chuck
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Subject: Re: [Finale] bariolage beaming
On 11.03.2007 Owain Sutton wrote:
Is this the kind of beaming you're after?:
in the manual pp 37-5 to 37-7, everything is explained. depending on
what you want to do there are different ways to handle your request.
everyone using linked parts should really read these pages
v-e-e-e-r-y carefully, even if you are doing something you have done
for years with finale,
OK jef,
I'm on it. I must admit to trying to avoid reading the manual, but
there are some things that make it necessary with the linked parts.
This seems to be one of them.
Chuck
On Mar 11, 2007, at 1:28 PM, shirling neueweise wrote:
in the manual pp 37-5 to 37-7, everything is
There is another way, but tedious (tho it did not take me much time), of
getting bariolage beaming: using several Special tools, that might be useful
in certain situations (don't know which, indeed):
- First, input the notes as there were no bariolage involved (just the 16th
notes)
- Apply
At 04:08 PM 3/11/2007, Chuck Israels wrote:
I have made numerous edits on parts (articulation placements etc.).
They are now unlinked. Is there a way to re-link them and make them
apply to the score globally?
In a word, no.
When items have become unlinked, relinking them will only adjust the
Aaron,
That's what I was afraid would be the answer. Wouldn't it be a good
feature to be able to edit in the part and then re-link that edit to
the score keeping the edit as it had been done in the part? Seems to
me to be a useful idea.
Chuck
On Mar 11, 2007, at 2:06 PM, Aaron
Chuck,
With linked parts, it's important to think ahead. If you want an edit
in a part to filter back up into the score, you have to remember to
hold down the override key (cmd on Mac) when you do it.
I would like to emphatically second Jef's recommendation that
everyone read the chapter
I've been able to export as EPS and edit in Illustrator. I just tried
again and it works with 2k7 and AI CS2.
What might be happening to you is that the stem is placed behind the
notehead character, which takes up almost the entire vertical real
estate of the stem.
Try any of the
Does anyone else still have disappearing hypens in lyrics in Finale
2007?
I met a couple of developers who deny the problem ever existed.
Frank Fitzpatrick
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