I presume that if you save as XML and then re-import the XML into a new file,
that will assign new IDs. But it may have unacceptable consequences.
- Original Message - Subject: Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2014.5 speed
test
From: "Robert Patterson"
Date: 7/23/16 10:50 pm
To: "finale"
This is Finale internals now. Sorry to bore you with techy stuff, but
Finale is at heart a piece of software with internals. Despite appearances,
it's not magic.
Each frame (which is a single layer on a single bar of a single staff) has
an ID. Once the ID is assigned it never changes. So if if you
IDs = ?
Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
On Jul 23, 2016 9:30 PM, "Robert Patterson"
wrote:
> BTW: in theory, your id's should be able to range as high as 65535, but
> once yo
Too bad. Thanks for your help. I actually was able to open the file in 2012
and work for 30 or 40 minutes before it crashed this time. Progress?
Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
BTW: in theory, your id's should be able to range as high as 65535, but
once you go past 32767 the likelihood of crash-causing bug goes up. I can
diagnose how high your id's have gone if you want to send me a file offline.
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 8:18 PM, Robert Patterson <
rob...@robertgpatters
I just ran some tests, and as I feared, if you delete a frame (by clear
layer or a measure), you don't get that frame number back. So you could
have exceeded the 32767 id value even though your actual number of
assignments is smaller. I don't see an easy way to recover the missing id
values either.
Frames 26160 , frame assignments 29604
Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971-2016
On Jul 23, 2016 8:32 PM, "Robert Patterson"
wrote:
> Right, but it doesn't tell you what the largest fr
Right, but it doesn't tell you what the largest frame number is. If you've
done a lot of editing your frame numbers could have exceeded 32767. Finale
may have a mechanism for reusing deleted frame numbers, but who knows how
reliable it is? Someone who has a tremendous amount of experience with this
mysterious behavior:
Using simple entry (have used it for decades with nothing like this... The
simple entry palettes: tools, notes, and rests, are what I keep on the
left of the screen. Today, every time I changed a tool in the tool
palette, the other two (notes and less) disappeared and had to
Your message got me thinking Robert. I haven’t looked at the count is a long
time. I did that just now to the largest act and it shows I have only 17471
active frames. So I am well under that stated limit.
And, like Raymond, I detest splitting into separate files. Too much work on
the back
Very useful information, Robert. Thank you. I am away from home now, but
I'll check that number when I get home tonight.
After working with a musical that I wrote back in 1999 that had different
files for every song, I swore that the next project like this I would keep
in one file no matter what.
You guys may be hitting the frame limit of 32767, especially if there
aren't many rests or if you use a lot of multiple layers. For any work with
10's of staves, I wouldn't take it past 1000 bars before splitting into a
new file.
On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 4:47 PM, J D Thomas wrote:
> Hi Raymond,
>
Well, exporting back to 2012 has not helped me a bit. Now this file crashes
everytime I click on anything. I'd appreciate any advice anyone has. Thanks
Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) United Methodist Church
Retired Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra, 1971
Hi Raymond,
I have been having very similar issues with a two-act opera I’ve been working
on. Each act is about 1500 measures, full orchestra and up to 18 characters in
vocal lines with lyrics. Everything you’re experiencing I have been dealing
with for the past several months:
saving file ta
One more one more thing. Trudging along in 2014 now , I have been reminded
that every time signature change takes a very long time, about a minute or
so. I hope I can move this file back to 2012 before I die of boredom or old
age or both.
Raymond Horton
Composer, Arranger
Minister of Music, Edward
One more thing. The file size is about twice as big and 2014.5. 3515 KB in
2012, 6560 KB in 2014.
Raymond Horton
On Jul 23, 2016 3:25 PM, "Raymond Horton" wrote:
> I promised this several weeks ago but put it off. Unfortunately, today I
> was forced to go back and forth between the two version
I promised this several weeks ago but put it off. Unfortunately, today I
was forced to go back and forth between the two versions because my file
kept crashing in 2012.
(Windows 10 , three year old computer that should be fast enough for most
apps.)
The file in question is more than 2,000 measures
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