Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Right -- F6/9#11) is the most concise non-compound chord notation. Hi, Everyone... I just have one more question about this chord! I'm just curious why it wouldn't be referred to as an F2/6(#4) or F2/ #4/6...? Thanks! Jacki

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:14 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Right -- F6/9#11) is the most concise non-compound chord notation. Hi, Everyone... I just have one more question about this chord! I'm just curious why it wouldn't be referred to as

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The short answer: just because. (shrug) LOL - makes sense :) Okay - next problem! I'm trying to put F6/9(#11) above the staff, but it keeps changing it to F6/E!! I made sure simplify spelling is off and I even went in to edit the

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread Carl Dershem
Jacki Barineau wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The short answer: just because. (shrug) LOL - makes sense :) Okay - next problem! I'm trying to put F6/9(#11) above the staff, but it keeps changing it to F6/E!! I made sure simplify spelling is off and I

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The short answer: just because. (shrug) LOL - makes sense :) Okay - next problem! I'm trying to put F6/9(#11) above the staff, but it keeps changing it to F6/E!! I made sure

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread Jacki Barineau
Thanks! That worked great - though tedius :) On Jun 26, 2006, at 10:04 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 9:42 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: On Jun 26, 2006, at 8:47 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The short answer: just because. (shrug) LOL - makes sense :) Okay - next

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-26 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Jacki Barineau / 2006/06/26 / 08:14 PM wrote: Hi, Everyone... I just have one more question about this chord! I'm just curious why it wouldn't be referred to as an F2/6(#4) or F2/ #4/6...? Sorry, but it is _not_ just because. There are reasons. In fact, theory is to pick the best

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Jacki Barineau / 2006/06/24 / 09:54 PM wrote: Thanks, Everyone, for the responses! I'm learning a lot here! Okay, so which would be better to use - the compound GoverF or the F6/9#11 - I mean which would a musician understand better, and which would be the music theory correct way of

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 10:19 PM -0400 6/24/06, Darcy James Argue wrote: If the specific triadic G-over-F voicing is crucial, and it's above slash marks, G-over-F is your best bet. If the precise arrangement of notes in the voicing can be left to the discretion of the player, or if it's just a label above a piano

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread Dennis W. Manasco
At 3:07 AM -0500 6/25/06, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: Specifying the target instrument and musical genre Oops -- meant to erase the musical genre part before I sent. That should have been pretty evident from the subject line. Sorry, -=-Dennis ___

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread dhbailey
Jacki Barineau wrote: On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Right -- F6/9#11) is the most concise non-compound chord notation. Thanks, Everyone, for the responses! I'm learning a lot here! Okay, so which would be better to use - the compound GoverF or the F6/9#11 - I

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:07 AM, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: At 10:19 PM -0400 6/24/06, Darcy James Argue wrote: If the specific triadic G-over-F voicing is crucial, and it's above slash marks, G-over-F is your best bet. If the precise arrangement of notes in the voicing can be left to the

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Jun 24, 2006, at 10:19 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Both are correct. What you write depends on the context: is this chord symbol just a label above a fully written-out piano part, or is it above slash marks? If the specific triadic G-over-F voicing is crucial, and it's above slash

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-25 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Jun 25, 2006, at 4:07 AM, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: I think that most keyboard players (of which I am minimally one) would recognize either notation, but would assume that you were asking specifically for a particular voicing (F chord in the bass and G chord in the treble) with the

[Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Jacki Barineau
Hi, Everyone! Okay - I've got another jazz chord I'm trying to figure out. It's basically a G chord in the treble (G-B-D) with an F chord in the bass (F-A-C). Is this some sort of F13#4? Or what would you call this?! It definitely has the F flavor to it. It is in the key of G (Em)

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Gerald Berg
F13#11 Jerry On 24-Jun-06, at 5:37 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone! Okay - I've got another jazz chord I'm trying to figure out. It's basically a G chord in the treble (G-B-D) with an F chord in the bass (F-A-C). Is this some sort of F13#4? Or what would you call this?! It

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
It's functionally a FMA13(#11), with the major seventh omitted from the voicing. You didn't say what key the piece is in, but it's probably a I or IV chord. The clearest nomenclature is a compound chord: G — F (Make sure you have under root selected in Finale.) You could also write

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
No, Jerry. There's no Eb, so there's no way it can function as a dominant 13th chord. Plus, it resolves right into a straight FMA7, meaning the extensions (9, #11, 13) are just decorating the FMA7 sonority. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 24 Jun 2006, at 5:51 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's functionally a FMA13(#11), with the major seventh omitted from the voicing. You didn't say what key the piece is in, but it's probably a I or IV chord. Ooops... I notice you *did* say the piece was in either G maj. or E min. So

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Bob Florence
F13#11 Jerry In an F13#11, would you net an E flat in the chord. The chord in question is an G triad over an F triad. Bob Florence On 24-Jun-06, at 5:37 PM, Jacki Barineau wrote: Hi, Everyone! Okay - I've got another jazz chord I'm trying to figure out. It's basically a G chord in

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Christopher Smith
Or F6/9(#11) is another pretty common symbol for that chord. Definitely not F13(#11), as it is missing the essential Eb. Christopher On Jun 24, 2006, at 5:51 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: It's functionally a FMA13(#11), with the major seventh omitted from the voicing. You didn't say what

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
Right -- F6/9#11) is the most concise non-compound chord notation. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 24 Jun 2006, at 8:07 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: Or F6/9(#11) is another pretty common symbol for that chord. Definitely not F13(#11), as it

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Jacki Barineau
On Jun 24, 2006, at 8:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Right -- F6/9#11) is the most concise non-compound chord notation. Thanks, Everyone, for the responses! I'm learning a lot here! Okay, so which would be better to use - the compound GoverF or the F6/9#11 - I mean which would a

Re: [Finale] Another Jazz Chord Question!

2006-06-24 Thread Darcy James Argue
Jackie, Both are correct. What you write depends on the context: is this chord symbol just a label above a fully written-out piano part, or is it above slash marks? If the specific triadic G-over-F voicing is crucial, and it's above slash marks, G-over-F is your best bet. If the precise