[Finale] Commas after word extensions?

Finale 2011, Windows. I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. "line ends with this word_,") , but Finale seems to really wants to keep commas etc. attached to the word before and have the word extension follow the punctuation mark. Obviously I'm miss

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

I'm interested in why? My kludgy solutions would be: Make smart shapes of line-comma, line-fullstop etc. and use these. Or Insert the commas and full stops in another layer. Steve P. On 4 Aug 2011, at 15:22, Daniel Wolf wrote: > Finale 2011, Windows. > > I'd like have punctuation marks

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Thu, August 4, 2011 10:22 am, Daniel Wolf wrote: > Finale 2011, Windows. > > I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. > "line ends with this word_,") , but Finale seems to really wants > to keep commas etc. attached to the word before and have the word > ex

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

Putting the punctuation after the word extension is sufficiently non-standard that I'm really not surprised that Finale doesn't support the practice. But I'd add to Steve Parker's workarounds, hard-coding word extensions using the underscore (_) character, and place the punctuation at the end o

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

Here's a sample using the non-breaking space: On Thu, August 4, 2011 11:13 am, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > On Thu, August 4, 2011 10:22 am, Daniel Wolf wrote: >> Finale 2011, Windows. >> >> I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extens

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > Space as usual, and for the last syllable before the comma, use a hard > (non-breaking) space (ALT+0160) and then type the comma. but wouldn't this result in the word extension still following the punctuation? ns ___ Fina

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Thu, August 4, 2011 11:50 am, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: > Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > >> Space as usual, and for the last syllable before the comma, use a hard >> (non-breaking) space (ALT+0160) and then type the comma. > > but wouldn't this result in the word extension still following the > pun

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Thu Aug 4, at ThursdayAug 4 11:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: > On Thu, August 4, 2011 10:22 am, Daniel Wolf wrote: >> Finale 2011, Windows. >> >> I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. >> "line ends with this word_,") , but Finale seems to really

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Thu, August 4, 2011 11:57 am, Christopher Smith wrote: > > On Thu Aug 4, at ThursdayAug 4 11:13 AM, Dennis Bathory-Kitsz wrote: >> >> Space as usual, and for the last syllable before the comma, use a hard >> (non-breaking) space (ALT+0160) and then type the comma. >> >> Dennis > > I'm curious as

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:00:03 +0200, wrote: > I'm interested in why? Common practice or not (and I have found enough counter examples in my library to call the "common practice" into question), it makes some syntactic sense that the comma (or semi-comma) does not occur within a word, and a

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

At 8:13 PM +0200 8/4/11, Daniel Wolf wrote: >On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 19:00:03 +0200, wrote: > >> I'm interested in why? > > >Common practice or not (and I have found enough counter examples in my >library to call the "common practice" into question), it makes some >syntactic sense that the comma (o

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

At 4:22 PM +0200 8/4/11, Daniel Wolf wrote: >Finale 2011, Windows. > >I'd like have punctuation marks follow word extensions in lyrics (i.e. >"line ends with this word_,") , but Finale seems to really wants >to keep commas etc. attached to the word before and have the word >extension f

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Aug 4, 2011, at 11:13 AM, Daniel Wolf wrote: > Common practice or not (and I have found enough counter examples in my > library to call the "common practice" into question), it makes some > syntactic sense that the comma (or semi-comma) does not occur within a > word, and as the extension

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

As a matter of fact, the comma _after_ the word extension is not only more logical, as Daniel has pointed out, but also standard practice in Bärenreiter's Telemann Edition (which is what I happen to have open at the moment) and (probably) also the NBA (the publications, not the teams!). So it wo

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

When I need a breath mark (a high-flying comma as an articulation) to appear at the end of a measure - perhaps a measure with a whole note where the breath mark would normally appear immediately after the note, I use an invisible smart line to position the articulation where it looks logical to

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

At 6:49 PM +0200 8/7/11, Eric Fiedler wrote: >As a matter of fact, the comma _after_ the word >extension is not only more logical, as Daniel >has pointed out, but also standard practice in >Bärenreiter's Telemann Edition (which is what I >happen to have open at the moment) and >(probably) also

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

At 8:11 AM -0700 8/7/11, Mark D Lew wrote: > >I agree with Daniel on this, and I was a little >surprised to see so many people say or imply >this is unorthodox. I've seen plenty of old >sources that put the comma after the word >extension, and I prefer it. I also had a regular >client who ask

Re: [Finale] Commas after word extensions?

On Sun, August 7, 2011 12:50 pm, John Howell wrote: > Some publishers > still use individual flags rather than beaming in > vocal music, and some singers actually like it > that way! Yeah, my singer for the lead in "Erzsébet" likes it that way and was mightily irritated that I'd provided the score