Re: [Finale] Swing only affects a few staves

2015-05-09 Thread Ryan
Are these just more tempo expressions that would print on all parts if using a staff list, or are they expressions assigned to individual staves, like the Technique Text? On Sat, May 9, 2015 at 12:22 PM, Steve Parker wrote: > I’ve had similar. > Solved by defining a swing marking and spraying hi

Re: [Finale] Swing only affects a few staves

2015-05-09 Thread Ryan Beard
There are no other expressions in the document yet. No dynamics, expressive marks, etc. Sent from my iPhone > On May 9, 2015, at 12:18 PM, David H. Bailey wrote: > >> On 5/9/2015 2:49 PM, Ryan wrote: >> I've defined a tempo with swing playback, but only a few staves (piano and >> vocals) play

Re: [Finale] Swing only affects a few staves

2015-05-09 Thread Steve Parker
I’ve had similar. Solved by defining a swing marking and spraying hidden versions of it around. Steve P. > On 9 May 2015, at 19:49, Ryan wrote: > > I've defined a tempo with swing playback, but only a few staves (piano and > vocals) plays swing. The other instrumental staves (big band) play str

Re: [Finale] Swing only affects a few staves

2015-05-09 Thread David H. Bailey
On 5/9/2015 2:49 PM, Ryan wrote: > I've defined a tempo with swing playback, but only a few staves (piano and > vocals) plays swing. The other instrumental staves (big band) play straight > 8ths. > > Finale 2012c. Mac > Garritan Instruments for Finale, > > The expression has a playback definition o

[Finale] Swing only affects a few staves

2015-05-09 Thread Ryan
I've defined a tempo with swing playback, but only a few staves (piano and vocals) plays swing. The other instrumental staves (big band) play straight 8ths. Finale 2012c. Mac Garritan Instruments for Finale, The expression has a playback definition of Swing value 100. I've added a hidden expressi

[Finale] Swing during playback only in one staff

2014-01-15 Thread Ryan
Hi list, I have a solo with piano piece. Finale is playing back the solo line with swing eighth notes, but with straight eighths for the piano. It should all be straight. How does this happen? I've check all the expressions, and none of them have any playback definitions assigned for swing. Ryan

Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-11 Thread dhbailey
norman wrote: i am constantly reminded on this thread, of the Duke Ellington song "it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing"swing can mean so many things in the musical genremy own learning being that swing involves anticipation of the beat...or slightly out of bea

Re: [Finale] Swing and Weight

2009-02-10 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Earl, you are wrong, I introduced the topic and I never even mentioned the word groove. I was talking about inegalité and how I think it should be done. You also diagreed with something I never wrote. I did not read a post by David which would justify your email. Perhaps I missed it. Joha

Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-10 Thread norman
i am constantly reminded on this thread, of the Duke Ellington song "it don't mean a thing if it ain't got that swing"swing can mean so many things in the musical genremy own learning being that swing involves anticipation of the beat...or slightly out of beat(tune).

Re: [Finale] Swing and Weight

2009-02-10 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Feb 2009 at 13:44, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: > David, the topic was groove and swing. Not groove -- I don't believe that term has been used in this discussion until you just introduced it. I certainly haven't been discussing that term at all. And when Johannes used "swing" I believe he pu

[Finale] Swing and Weight

2009-02-10 Thread EarlRShay
David, the topic was groove and swing. Both different from weight. You should be more clear from where *you* were taught. Swing and groove incorporate velocity, tempo, position within meter. You took it upon yourself to disagree. By the way you can drop the attitude. Earl

Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Feb 2009 at 17:46, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: > Mr Fenton... that's a HUGE statement for so little backup "Whether or not > it was intended by the original practicioners" and your support for it where > "you" grew up.. if you have read ANY of the Wagner literature and heard ANY > of > the

Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-09 Thread David W. Fenton
On 9 Feb 2009 at 13:49, earlrs...@aol.com wrote: > It sounds like you are saying after 1900 music is less apt to be "swung". > If that is what you are saying then I would disagree with you. Whether or not it was intended by the original practitioners in the 19th century, the performance prac

Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-09 Thread Johannes Gebauer
No, all I said was that _perhaps_ _some_ more recent music is supposed to be static. I was thinking more of some experimental music, and sound painting, where it would be difficult to argue that there should be swing. I never said that _all_ music after 1900 was static and didn't have swing. Th

[Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-09 Thread EarlRShay
Johannes... It sounds like you are saying after 1900 music is less apt to be "swung". If that is what you are saying then I would disagree with you. e > perhaps some more recent music is supposed to > be static > ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2

Re: [Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-08 Thread Johannes Gebauer
So in what way are you disagreeing with me? Can you explain? Johannes On 09.02.2009 earlrs...@aol.com wrote: Johannes, I'm going to have to heartily disagree with you about Swing after 1900. Fiora Contino, a superb conductor and in of Puccini, Toscanini lineage (her father was the first Bohe

[Finale] Swing in Wagner

2009-02-08 Thread EarlRShay
The previous Puccini post and now Wagner post do effect Swing... not in the egals inegals sense but in the sense of a "groove" that goes beyond the sheer notated rhythml. If one listens to the performance sources of the Wagner inner circle, (there is a performance recorded of the Parsifal tran

[Finale] Swing after 1900

2009-02-08 Thread EarlRShay
Johannes, I'm going to have to heartily disagree with you about Swing after 1900. Fiora Contino, a superb conductor and in of Puccini, Toscanini lineage (her father was the first Boheme Marcello) and her sister quite an accomplished Soprano) are close enough to the source to make a reliable s

RE: [Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?

2008-04-10 Thread Stu McIntire
> Darcy's suggestion is the best for me, too, but explaining it to > someone who doesn't understand swing is the problem. I suggest a note > accompanying the work, either as a footnote or an incipit before the > body of the work starts (I know that's not a traditional incipit, but > I think the con

Re: [Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?

2008-04-10 Thread Christopher Smith
On 10-Apr-08, at 11:22 AM, Stu McIntire wrote: I'm working on a piano piece that has a recurring two eighth note motive that has a slight swing to it. Definitely not a quarter/eighth triplet feel; an accurate representation might be an eighth tied to a 32nd note, followed by a 32nd tied t

Re: [Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?

2008-04-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
"Slight swing" Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 10 Apr 2008, at 11:22 AM, Stu McIntire wrote: I'm working on a piano piece that has a recurring two eighth note motive that has a slight swing to it. Definitely not a quarter/eighth triplet feel; an accurate represen

[Finale] swing feel in non-jazz piece?

2008-04-10 Thread Stu McIntire
I'm working on a piano piece that has a recurring two eighth note motive that has a slight swing to it. Definitely not a quarter/eighth triplet feel; an accurate representation might be an eighth tied to a 32nd note, followed by a 32nd tied to a 16th, but that looks precious to me, esp. in context

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-11 Thread Christopher Smith
On Feb 11, 2006, at 6:11 AM, dhbailey wrote: LEE DENGLER wrote: David, This is helpful, but how does one resize this Shape Expression. I need something smaller. If I try to stretch this shape it becomes very distorted. In that case I don't know what to say -- i just tried editing the ex

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
I've said this before, but to repeat -- I think the "Swing - eighth eighth = quarter-eighth triplet" is completely ridiculous. An actual swing feel sounds nothing like that, and if someone doesn't know what an actual swing feel sounds like, well... the written triplet indication isn't going

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-11 Thread dhbailey
LEE DENGLER wrote: David, This is helpful, but how does one resize this Shape Expression. I need something smaller. If I try to stretch this shape it becomes very distorted. In that case I don't know what to say -- i just tried editing the existing one and can't access the individual el

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread bill
ge - > From: "dhbailey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom > > >> LEE DENGLER wrote: >>> Hi All, >>> I need to make a swing expression (2 8ths = quarter / 8th

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread dhbailey
LEE DENGLER wrote: Hi All, I need to make a swing expression (2 8ths = quarter / 8th triplet) where the 2 8th notes are beamed together and the quarter / eighth notes have a triplet bracket above them. I've seen this many times in scores. How do I make it Finale 2006 (windows)? I made an

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread LEE DENGLER
5:58 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom LEE DENGLER wrote: Hi All, I need to make a swing expression (2 8ths = quarter / 8th triplet) where the 2 8th notes are beamed together and the quarter / eighth notes have a triplet bracket above them. I've seen this many times in score

Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread bill
Title: Re: [Finale] Swing expressiom I sell a font called "TempoTime" which handles that and just about any tempo transition you can think of without having to deal with "Shapes".  I also use this as my Time Signature font as well.   http://www.gwmp.com/MusicFontsFramese

[Finale] Swing expressiom

2006-02-10 Thread LEE DENGLER
Hi All,   I need to make a swing _expression_ (2 8ths = quarter / 8th triplet) where the 2 8th notes are beamed together and the quarter / eighth notes have a triplet bracket above them.  I've seen this many times in scores.  How do I make it Finale 2006 (windows)?  I made an _expression_ sh

Re: [Finale] Swing?

2005-07-12 Thread Jim Williamson
Title: Re: [Finale] Swing? Hey Allen, thanks for the info but the tempo tool seems fragile and it wants to slow the tempo. I, of course can get around that but I think I'll just do as I had planned and was also suggested by another member: save as a seperate playback file, change

Re: [Finale] Swing?

2005-07-12 Thread Allen Fisher
Title: Re: [Finale] Swing? I know it’s not the greatest solution, but you can use the tempo tool to create the swing. Double-click a measure with the tempo tool. Click Set Swing... Click Duration Choose 16th That’ll swing it. You’ll have to set tempo to “No HP Effect” in HP prefs if you are

Re: [Finale] Swing?

2005-07-12 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 12, 2005, at 7:37 AM, Jim Williamson wrote: Can someone tell me how to specify swinging of 16th's and not 8th's?   I have a slow Hip Hop section (quarter = 76) where the 8th's need to stay straight but the 16th's need to be bouncy. The swing function does the opposite. I can accomplish the

[Finale] Swing?

2005-07-12 Thread Jim Williamson
Can someone tell me how to specify swinging of 16th's and not 8th's?   I have a slow Hip Hop section (quarter = 76) where the 8th's need to stay straight but the 16th's need to be bouncy. The swing function does the opposite. I can accomplish the task by writing it in "cut time" but that's n

Re: [Finale] Swing

2005-04-02 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Apr 2, 2005 5:32 AM, Lawrence David Eden <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I want a section of my arrangement to have swing playback. How do I > do it? You'll have to create expressions with Playback defined to start and stop the "Swing feel" section. -- Brad Beyenhof [EMAIL PROTECTED] my blog: h

[Finale] Swing

2005-04-02 Thread Lawrence David Eden
Fellow Listers, I want a section of my arrangement to have swing playback. How do I do it? (FinMac 2K3b) I want most of the playback to be without swing, so are staff styles the way to go? Larry ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.

[Finale] Swing Sixteenths?

2004-11-27 Thread Simon Troup
Anyone know how to set playback for swing sixteenths, where eighth notes are straight but the second and fourth sixteenths in each beat are swung? Simon Troup ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-15 Thread Peter Taylor
riginal Message - From: "Eden - Lawrence D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Christopher BJ Smith" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Finale List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 1:40 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] swing &g

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-15 Thread dhbailey
Just make a copy of your original Swing expression, change the text style to invisible so it won't print, and place it at the same point your tempo change occurs. Just as easy as using a staff style. David Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I used a text expression to set my swing playback. My problem a

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-15 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
Good idea. I was hoping that I could create a Staff Style that would cover tempo and swing...is this possible? On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Allen Fisher wrote: > You'll need to use the MIDI tool. > > Set the swing in the playback controls to NONE. > Click the MIDI tool > Select the first section that

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-15 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
I used a text expression to set my swing playback. My problem arose when I needed to change the tempo. The new text expression that I created to change the tempo killed the swing. On Wed, 14 Jul 2004, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: > At 11:04 AM -0400 7/14/04, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: > >I have

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 14 Jul, 2004, at 12:57 PM, Allen Fisher wrote: You'll need to use the MIDI tool. Set the swing in the playback controls to NONE. Click the MIDI tool Select the first section that needs swing. MIDI Tool Menu-->Alter feel Alter backbeats by 171 Set to absolute Click OK Repeat with the other sectio

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-14 Thread Allen Fisher
You'll need to use the MIDI tool. Set the swing in the playback controls to NONE. Click the MIDI tool Select the first section that needs swing. MIDI Tool Menu-->Alter feel Alter backbeats by 171 Set to absolute Click OK Repeat with the other sections that swing. Tempo shouldn't matter On 7/14/

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-14 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 11:04 AM -0400 7/14/04, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I have a chart that needs swing playback in some places, no swing in others, and then swing again, but at a new tempo. I can get Finale 2K3(Mac) to swing for the first section, but I don't know how to define the next section of swing. The first s

Re: [Finale] swing

2004-07-14 Thread Peter Taylor
- Original Message - From: "Eden - Lawrence D." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Finale List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 4:04 PM Subject: [Finale] swing > I have a chart that needs swing playback in some places, no swing in > othe

[Finale] swing

2004-07-14 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
I have a chart that needs swing playback in some places, no swing in others, and then swing again, but at a new tempo. I can get Finale 2K3(Mac) to swing for the first section, but I don't know how to define the next section of swing. The first section swings at Quarter = 102 The second section s

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-11 Thread Scott Jones
If any of you have not already noticed, since Panther came out FONT BOOK will install any PC font directly to the system by double-clicking the font. Up will pop FONT BOOK with a button on the window to INSTALL the font. No more converting PC fonts to OS X! __

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 11 Jun 2004, at 03:35 PM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: Darcy, Do you mean that the font works on OSX right away, or that the font converter at the site won't work on OSX? Both. Of course, the former makes the latter moot. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY _

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-11 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
At 3:03 PM -0400 6/11/04, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 11 Jun 2004, at 08:27 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: This is a PC font. If you are on a Mac, you will need the font converter utility, available on the same site.) Not if you're using OS X. Anyway, thanks for the tip -- I may try that instea

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-11 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 11 Jun 2004, at 08:27 AM, Christopher BJ Smith wrote: This is a PC font. If you are on a Mac, you will need the font converter utility, available on the same site.) Not if you're using OS X. Anyway, thanks for the tip -- I may try that instead of SF Cartoonist Hand Bold. - Darcy - [EMAIL

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-11 Thread Christopher BJ Smith
Title: Re: [Finale] swing font At 11:09 PM -0400 6/10/04, Giz Bowe wrote: He does make some good stuff, but the JazzFont is in serious need of tweaking. Let's start with the number set and the letter Z. . . . I've started using Dom Casual for my numbers. Giz Ha! I came to the same

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-11 Thread Giz Bowe
He does make some good stuff, but the JazzFont is in serious need of tweaking. Let's start with the number set and the letter Z. . . . I've started using Dom Casual for my numbers. Giz At 07:04 PM 6/10/04, you wrote: Pity cause he makes good stuff. Great way to support your customers...not D

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Florence
Rich Sigler doesn't answer support emails, period. He never has, and presumably never will. He obviously doesn't give a damn about his customers once they've already bought the font. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY \Rich actually answered me a yearBF ago. I guess it was a false ho

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Pity cause he makes good stuff. Great way to support your customers...not Darcy James Argue wrote: Rich Sigler doesn't answer support emails, period. He never has, and presumably never will. He obviously doesn't give a damn about his customers once they've already bought the font. - Darc

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Darcy James Argue
Rich Sigler doesn't answer support emails, period. He never has, and presumably never will. He obviously doesn't give a damn about his customers once they've already bought the font. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn NY On 10 Jun 2004, at 02:17 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: Yeah, the author

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
http://www.fontlab.com/ Bob Florence wrote: Yeah, the author needs to update it for OS X. Good luck contacting him. I sent him SEVERAL emails, and got NO REPLIES. I ended up using a font utility called FONT LAB to convert the font to work with OS X. Hi Eric: What is FONT LAB? BF __

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Florence
Yeah, the author needs to update it for OS X. Good luck contacting him. I sent him SEVERAL emails, and got NO REPLIES. I ended up using a font utility called FONT LAB to convert the font to work with OS X. Hi Eric: What is FONT LAB? BF Finale mailing list [EMAIL PRO

Re: [Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Yeah, the author needs to update it for OS X. Good luck contacting him. I sent him SEVERAL emails, and got NO REPLIES. I ended up using a font utility called FONT LAB to convert the font to work with OS X. Bob Florence wrote: Hi all; Does anyone use the Swing font which a cousin to the Jazz fon

[Finale] swing font

2004-06-10 Thread Bob Florence
Hi all; Does anyone use the Swing font which a cousin to the Jazz font. I am using a new Mac G5 with MacFin 2004b. The jazz font works, the Swing font doesn't. Thanks; Bob F. ___ Finale mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listin