On Sat, Feb 25, 2006 at 06:48:21AM -0800, David R. Morrison wrote:
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> There is a deeper issue here which perhaps we need to resolve: when
> is it appropriate for a dependency to say (= %v-%r) and when should
> it say (>= %v-%r)?
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> My first take on this is that among splitoffs of a given pa
On Feb 25, 2006, at 2:16 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:07 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
So its only because we don't have a deb for (old) gettext-tools?
If I built the old gettext-tools first it would be OK?
Gah, I've been getting things wrong. Lemme see if I can get thi
On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:07 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
So its only because we don't have a deb for (old) gettext-tools?
If I built the old gettext-tools first it would be OK?
Gah, I've been getting things wrong. Lemme see if I can get this
straight. We have these packages in stable:
gette
On Feb 25, 2006, at 1:00 PM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
On Feb 25, 2006, at 3:28 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
To explain: after the update, gettext (which really means gettext-
shlibs but for historical reasons is called gettext) and gettext-
dev are in one package, which is really just a legacy
On Feb 25, 2006, at 3:28 PM, David R. Morrison wrote:
To explain: after the update, gettext (which really means gettext-
shlibs but for historical reasons is called gettext) and gettext-
dev are in one package, which is really just a legacy package for
the old version of the library. The lib
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:38 AM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
The problem with gettext is that when you build and install
libgettext3-shlibs, the new gettext-tools hasn't been built yet!
Even though SysState *wants* to upgrade them as a unit, it can't do
so until it has .debs for all of them. The mo
On Feb 25, 2006, at 11:23 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
2. Even if we don't tell dpkg to install both at once, the
SysState algorithm will figure things out in the simple cases,
when upgrading the depender fixes things. For example, say you
have foo-shlibs-1.0-1 and foo-dev-1.0-1 installed wi
Le 25 févr. 2006 à 17:23, David R. Morrison a écrit :
On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
However, there are some pairs of packages (dclib0 and valknut
come to mind) which have been set up so that one depends on a
pre
On Feb 25, 2006, at 8:14 AM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
However, there are some pairs of packages (dclib0 and valknut come
to mind) which have been set up so that one depends on a precise
version of another. It seems to me that these would
On Feb 25, 2006, at 9:48 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
However, there are some pairs of packages (dclib0 and valknut come
to mind) which have been set up so that one depends on a precise
version of another. It seems to me that these would be completely
impossible to update with the strict c
On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
Alright, here's the reason SysState exists, and why it gives an
error. Dpkg has a reasonably serious bug in it: when a package is
upgraded, dpkg doesn't check to see if there are any versioned
dependencies that have become invalid. This
On Feb 25, 2006, at 5:24 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
The situation is this: foo and bar are initially splitoffs in the
same package, and foo depends on a specific version of bar. But in
the revision, foo and bar are in different packages. Due to
dependencies, fink updates bar before foo
On Feb 25, 2006, at 6:40 AM, Dave Vasilevsky wrote:
Alright, here's the reason SysState exists, and why it gives an
error. Dpkg has a reasonably serious bug in it: when a package is
upgraded, dpkg doesn't check to see if there are any versioned
dependencies that have become invalid. This
On Feb 25, 2006, at 4:55 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Well, upon further investigation this is a very curious story.
If I repeat the same steps as Michèle, but starting by
bootstrapping from branch_0_24, then the update goes OK. But if
the bootstrap is from HEAD, the update fails.
The e
Alright, here's the reason SysState exists, and why it gives an
error. Dpkg has a reasonably serious bug in it: when a package is
upgraded, dpkg doesn't check to see if there are any versioned
dependencies that have become invalid. This has yet to be fixed
upstream, here's one of the seve
On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:00 AM, Michèle Garoche wrote:
Just for the record if it matters.
I've bootstrapped from HEAD in a new empty directory; bootstrapped
was fine: it installed gettext and its dependencies at version
0.10.40-19 on stable branch.
Then I've switched to unstable, removing s
David R. Morrison wrote:
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One possible fix for this would be to have a mechanism to recognize that
a group of packages need to be updated together, and that Fink::SysState
should not be expected to give a consistent answer until they have all
been updated. I'm not sure how to do this, howeve
Le 24 févr. 2006 à 16:49, Chris Zubrzycki a écrit :
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On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:27 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Hi Michèle. I've seen things like this before. This kind of
upgrade issue is exactly why I haven't moved libgettext3 to
stable. We ne
Hi David,
Le 24 févr. 2006 à 16:27, David R. Morrison a écrit :
Hi Michèle. I've seen things like this before. This kind of
upgrade issue is exactly why I haven't moved libgettext3 to
stable. We need to have a strategy for avoiding any issues with
users who upgrade to libgettext3.
Yes,
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On Feb 24, 2006, at 10:27 AM, David R. Morrison wrote:
Hi Michèle. I've seen things like this before. This kind of
upgrade issue is exactly why I haven't moved libgettext3 to
stable. We need to have a strategy for avoiding any issues with
us
Hi Michèle. I've seen things like this before. This kind of upgrade
issue is exactly why I haven't moved libgettext3 to stable. We need
to have a strategy for avoiding any issues with users who upgrade to
libgettext3.
Thanks for the report.
-- Dave
On Feb 24, 2006, at 3:00 AM, Michèl
Just for the record if it matters.
I've bootstrapped from HEAD in a new empty directory; bootstrapped
was fine: it installed gettext and its dependencies at version
0.10.40-19 on stable branch.
Then I've switched to unstable, removing stable directories in
fink.conf Trees line. Then selfc
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