[Flashcoders] Re: AS 2 Delegate question

2007-06-05 Thread Stefano Nappa
Thank you all! Muzak, lots to learn here for me :-) ___ L'email della prossima generazione? Puoi averla con la nuova Yahoo! Mail: http://it.docs.yahoo.com/nowyoucan.html ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com T

Re: [Flashcoders] OT:How was this done?

2007-06-05 Thread Christian Giordano
If you want to be updated with his works you have to read his blog: http://toxi.co.uk/blog/ or check his flickr account: http://flickr.com/photos/toxi/ As far as I remember he rendered it at very high definition, I'm quite sure it wasn't happening in real-time (sometimes he uses a high quality

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Special font issue

2007-06-05 Thread Tom Huynen
Hey Joe, Thanks for your reaction. I've been trying to get it to work for a long time now. But still, no results. Can it be that it just isn't possible with the font I'm working with? Regards, Tom On 6/4/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Tom, >> Yes it is correct. But it does

RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Special font issue

2007-06-05 Thread Karina Steffens
Did you try a straight test with simply placing the dynamic text field on the stage with the euro symbol typed-in and font embedded? That should tell you if it's possible, but I can't believe that a euro symbol doesn't come with a Helvetica-family font. > -Original Message- > From: Tom Hu

Re: [Flashcoders] Re: Special font issue

2007-06-05 Thread Tom Huynen
Yes I did...I don't understand it either. The sign is visible in a static textfield but it disappears in a dynamic one whatever I do. I solved it by applying another textformat each time a euro sign is present. Applying multiple textformats just for this isn't that nice but at least it's something

[Flashcoders] AS2: A nifty Event Handler Tidy-up?

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Doherty
Is there any way to delete all event handlers within a particular movieclip? I've basically been working on a project developing an elearning engine that handles pages of external content loaded in as swf's. Now the person who has written the content swf's has a linked a class to each button wit

RE: [Flashcoders] Re: Special font issue

2007-06-05 Thread Hairy Dog Digital
Tom, This is just out of left field here, but have you tried physically removing the font files from your PC/Mac and reinstalling them? >From everything that I've read in this thread the problem seems to be that the font outlines are not getting embedded for that specific character. Also, do y

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component andWebService.

2007-06-05 Thread Hairy Dog Digital
> The complaint is that there's no AS3 version of the Data > components and some UI Components (like the Tree) And that really bites because I use and abuse the Tree component on a regular basis in my AS2 / Flash MX04/8 projects! ___ Flashcoders@chat

[Flashcoders] Unloading in flex 2 (SWFLoader).

2007-06-05 Thread Arjen Veneman
Hi all, I'm running into troubles with unloading content for SWFLoader (and Loader as well). i'm looking for some insight on this... This is the code: public function Main() { var swfLoader : SWFLoader = new SWFLoader(); // loads a very l

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Ron Wheeler
You are mixing Model and View in your thinking about MVC. You have described your model. Now you need to construct the objects that make up the View. Your View's render function will read the Model and use the information in the model to construct new objects (or update existing objects) in the

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Cary Ho
Thanks, Ive only been doing flash for little more then a week, so I didnt plan out the application. I think on further apps, ill plan it out better that way. I do have another question. I need my flash application to communicate to the servers. Its an applications that updates data server side

RE: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>I do have another question. I need my flash application to >>communicate to the servers. Its an applications that updates >>data server side. How is the accomplished in flash? Many many different ways - what server side scripting is available to you? C#? PHP? JSP? ASP? ColdFusion? Java? VB

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Upgrading to Windows Vista

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Steven
Thanks for all the advice on upgrading to Vista. I ended up buying the Ultimate upgrade version from PC World due to the urgency and 24 hours later after beginning the install, and another trip to PC World to get a new graphics card due to my old GeForce FX5200 not working with Vista, I have a real

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Cary Ho
Wow, flash is pretty flexible. Well, we use struts, so its java with servlets/jsps. Can flash use javascript? I use dwr a lot, so I wouldnt mind passing objects that way. Also, do i need to buy more to accomplish this or is it built into flash? TIA! Merrill, Jason wrote: I do have another ques

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Upgrading to Windows Vista

2007-06-05 Thread Ian Thomas
Hi Paul, I just realised this comment was kind of irrelevant to your upgrade. Hopefully it'll make more sense when you're actually trying to debug what's wrong with your CR-ROM! Give us a shout if you need to, we've just had to jump through all the hoops of getting Flash products working on Vist

Re: [Flashcoders] OT: Upgrading to Windows Vista

2007-06-05 Thread Ron Wheeler
Should not be too slow, I only have 1 Vista install but it is on a notebook with only 2 GB of RAM and of course a much smaller and slower disk. It is used to 3D CAD and it very snappy rendering moderately large models. It keeps up with the mouse when the model is being dragged or rotated. You

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Ron Wheeler
Built-in or free. You can probably find somehting to buy. Try doing a Google to see if you can find a good tutorial Ron Cary Ho wrote: Wow, flash is pretty flexible. Well, we use struts, so its java with servlets/jsps. Can flash use javascript? I use dwr a lot, so I wouldnt mind passing obje

RE: [Flashcoders] AS2: A nifty Event Handler Tidy-up?

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
Not knowing the specific handler names, seems you can just delete the references for the button events this way: delete myButton.onRelease delete myButton.onReleaseOutside delete myButton.onRollOver etc? Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia T

RE: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
Oh yeah, Flash has a really cool class called ExternalInterface which allows Flash > Javascript communication. You can call a Javascript function from Flash - pretty neat - so you can read in JS variables and also set them. Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eT

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: A nifty Event Handler Tidy-up?

2007-06-05 Thread Andrew Doherty
I see a spelling mistake in my original question, I meant "kill all the handlers within a particular movieclip", i.e. each content movieclip. The number of and names of the onRelease handlers changes in each content movieclip, so rather than writing some hugely complex list of onRelease etc names

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: A nifty Event Handler Tidy-up?

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
I'd suggest you first try to figure out what it is exactly that makes your app run slow. Somehow it seems unlikely to me that this would have anything to do with event handlers (but not knowing the app I might be wrong). Maybe have a look with XRay.. http://osflash.org/xray If I had to guess: -

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Cary Ho
Thanks!, Ill look into that as my communication. Merrill, Jason wrote: Oh yeah, Flash has a really cool class called ExternalInterface which allows Flash > Javascript communication. You can call a Javascript function from Flash - pretty neat - so you can read in JS variables and also set them.

Re: [Flashcoders] AS2: A nifty Event Handler Tidy-up?

2007-06-05 Thread eric e. dolecki
i guess you could try a for in loop on that main mc, and look for mcs within it and then just do it that way. eric On 6/5/07, Andrew Doherty <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I see a spelling mistake in my original question, I meant "kill all the handlers within a particular movieclip", i.e. each con

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
If you're using Java, have a look at Flash Remoting. Comes in differenct flavors. http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/ http://www.adobe.com/products/flashremoting/ At a minimum, you'll need the Flash Remoting Classes/component, which you can download here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flash

RE: [Flashcoders] OT: Upgrading to Windows Vista

2007-06-05 Thread Paul Steven
Thanks Ron and Ian - that is reassuring to know. Just need to fathom the reason for the sluggish behaviour of my PC then. -- Paul Steven Mediakitchen Limited 6 Crown Mews Wellington Somerset TA21 9SZ Tel: 01823

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
> > Remoting is also a good way, but I found it overly complex and somewhat > buggy at times (at least combined with ColdFusion). > Hi Jason, Care to elaborate? Been using Flash Remoting + Coldfusion ever since it was released and still find it the best/easiest way for transfering data. regards

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Yes, who would have believed that Flash CS3 would yield AS3 components that are: - a reduced set of UI components from AS2 - no data components - elimination of databinding And as Randy points out, all this in the run up to Microsoft's Silverlight release. Based on my decades of experien

RE: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>Care to elaborate? >>Been using Flash Remoting + Coldfusion ever since it was >>released and still find it the best/easiest way for transfering data. I found with Remoting there were a lot more calls I seemed to have to make to get the connection going, more installation woes, and then with Col

[Flashcoders] [JOB] Flash Developer - Telecommute

2007-06-05 Thread Beau Gould
I don't have much information on this gig, since the signing of an NDA will be required, but I can tell you this: The project will be similar to developing a chat/game site like www.habbo.com This will require someone who can put together a team of probably 3 for programming, graphics and music

[Flashcoders] Best Flash multiuser server option for avatar chat app.

2007-06-05 Thread Ivan Dario Sosa Prieto
Hey list! My employer wants me to develop a RIA, really similar to http://www.barbiegirls.com/home.html or http://www.theoworlds.com/avatar/. Bottom line, the application must have a heavy multiuser chat component, that can host more than 1000 concurrent users, a lot of data going back and f

[Flashcoders] differences between flex sdk and ide compiler

2007-06-05 Thread Jan Eric
hi there, i am currently writing my degree in media-informatics on producing flash-websites with as3. one of my first chapters should be an adjustment between the compilers in the flex sdk, the flex ide, flash cs3 and maybe haxe. i am searching now for days in the internet and cant find muc

[Flashcoders] Job posting

2007-06-05 Thread Jim Kremens
Hi all, A friend of mine asked me to post this as he felt funny about joining the list just to post a job. The gig is based in NYC. See replyto address below - please don't reply to me! /// ActionScript Developer at Heavy.com Heavy.com is seeking a talented ActionScript developer

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash multiuser server option for avatar chatapp.

2007-06-05 Thread Jobe Makar
Hi, Don't forget to put ElectroServer on your list. It is used to power some huge game/chat environments like Webkinz, Barbie, Hot Wheels, MTV/Vh1 games, etc. http://www.electro-server.com Jobe Makar http://www.electrotank.com http://www.electro-server.com phone: 252-627-8026 mobile: 919-60

RE: [Flashcoders] thumbnail panel

2007-06-05 Thread Jesse Graupmann
// // // VERSION 1 // // var xspace = 20; var yspace = 20; var xmax = 400; var row = 0; var col = 0; var len = 10; for ( var i = 0; i < len; i ++ ) { var depth = this.getNextHighestDepth(); var t = this.attachMovie ( "box", "box_" + i, depth ); var nx = ( t._width

Re: [Flashcoders] Child Object positions

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
Hi Jason, Thanx for explaining ;-) > I found with Remoting there were a lot more calls I seemed to have to > make to get the connection going Not 100% sure what you mean here, but I guess you're referring to the fact that you first have to define the Remoting gateway url. This is similar to def

Re: [Flashcoders] Best Flash multiuser server option for avatarchatapp.

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
> Hi, > > Don't forget to put ElectroServer on your list. It is used to power some huge > game/chat environments like Webkinz, Barbie, Hot > Wheels, MTV/Vh1 games, etc. > > http://www.electro-server.com > > > Jobe Makar Which is what http://www.theoworlds.com/avatar/ uses, so it's kinda odd he

[Flashcoders] disapearing animation

2007-06-05 Thread hervé hubert
Hi, I have a strange issue on several of my animations. If you play the animation online and leave the window open, the animation will just disapear after a while, the screen will get desperately empty... Even with a loop in a movie clip playing indefinetely and with the html loop parameter se

[Flashcoders] Whats the best way to communicate with the serverside?

2007-06-05 Thread Cary Ho
I had had this question under another topic, but I thought maybe it needed its own appropriate title. Im looking for a free solutions (aside from Flash CS3 itself) what can help me communicate with the server. Im making a client/server type program with my flash as the client. Currently we use

RE: [Flashcoders] Record client's webcam without Flash Server

2007-06-05 Thread Ruslan Shestopal
No chance for HTTP. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of JulianG Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 5:31 AM To: flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Record client's webcam without Flash Server Thanks! I downloaded it. And I w

Re: [Flashcoders] Whats the best way to communicate with the serverside?

2007-06-05 Thread Andy Herrman
It really depends on what kind of data you need to pass around. One other option is to have the server be able to receive XML data and respond with other XML data. Flash can generate and parse XML fairly easily. We do something similar to this in our application, where Flash generates an XML do

Re: [Flashcoders] Whats the best way to communicate with the serverside?

2007-06-05 Thread Glen Pike
Hi, Have a google for "Flash Remoting" - there are a number of Open Source server side systems to allow the Flash Remoting interface to pass data: OpenAMF is a Java one, I have done a bit with AMF PHP. It uses a binary format so your data is less bloated and with AMFPHP you can pass

[Flashcoders] Floating point pain

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
If I have a floating point value, say, 25.81 and want to separate the first two places beyond the decimal point (.81) from 25.81, I thought simple subtration would work, but it seems floating points are even less accurate in Flash than I thought. I know the are imprecise, but are they really this

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Mulhollam
I have used the tree extensively on my own website and am pretty disappointed in Adobe. What is the alternative to a tree component in CS3 within the Adobe world - is there something in Flex which replaces it? Mark Minneapolis, Minnesota http://www.tc.umn.edu/~mulho005 -Original Message-

Re: [Flashcoders] Floating point pain

2007-06-05 Thread Glen Pike
Parse it as a string then turn it into a number again :) Merrill, Jason wrote: If I have a floating point value, say, 25.81 and want to separate the first two places beyond the decimal point (.81) from 25.81, I thought simple subtration would work, but it seems floating points are even less

RE: [Flashcoders] Floating point pain

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
Thanks, yeah, I thought of that. I was hoping there was some unknown Math function I had missed. Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team >>-Original Message- >>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf >>O

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
>>What is the alternative to a >>tree component in CS3 within the Adobe world - is there >>something in Flex which replaces it? Yes, there is a nice Tree component in Flex. Jason Merrill Bank of America GT&O Learning & Leadership Development eTools & Multimedia Team __

Re: [Flashcoders] Floating point pain

2007-06-05 Thread Mark Winterhalder
On 6/5/07, Merrill, Jason <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks, yeah, I thought of that. I was hoping there was some unknown Math function I had missed. The only other one I can think of is modulo. It would be slightly more readable (IMHO) and fit into one line, but would still require the Math.r

Re: [Flashcoders] disapearing animation

2007-06-05 Thread Hans Wichman
Hi, wait a few minutes more and it fades back in again:) Seems like a movieclip not correctly stopping. This should have nothing to do with looping. Try Xray to figure out what happens. greetz JC On 6/5/07, hervé hubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi, I have a strange issue on several of my

Re: [Flashcoders] disapearing animation

2007-06-05 Thread hervé hubert
Ok thanks I'll figure that out! Cheers hh Le 5 juin 07 à 22:55, Hans Wichman a écrit : Hi, wait a few minutes more and it fades back in again:) Seems like a movieclip not correctly stopping. This should have nothing to do with looping. Try Xray to figure out what happens. greetz JC On 6

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Yes, Flex has AS3 versions of all of the components that Flash 8 had and then some. That is the point. The message is pretty clear: If you want a comprehensive, state of the art component set use Flex. You can preview the full set of Flex UI components here: http://examples.adobe.com/flex2/inp

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
I think the main factor on the components was more of a time factor to meet with the CS3 release timing as opposed to just removing functionality. Most new releases of a software don't remove functionality, but deprecate it. Removing something like the tree component or web services from flash

Re: [Flashcoders] Whats the best way to communicate with the serverside?

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
Did you see the previous post about Flash Remoting? Here's some info to have a look at: http://www.themidnightcoders.com/weborb/ http://www.adobe.com/products/flashremoting/ At a minimum, you'll need the Flash Remoting Classes/component, which you can download here: http://www.adobe.com/product

Re: [Flashcoders] thumbnail panel

2007-06-05 Thread ben deroo
you're a STAR Jesse. absolutely perfectly clean and simple!! thnks a million, I had spent a lot of time trying to find a solution based on knowledge I already had, but i simply did not know enough. Again, thanks, Ben On 6/5/07, Jesse Graupmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: // // // VERSION

Re: [Flashcoders] Whats the best way to communicate with the serverside?

2007-06-05 Thread Cary Ho
Wow, thanks for all the info. Ill look into all those different things. On the side, I was looking at the ExternalInterface and was wondering, If I have the container call a flash object, what sort of limitations are there in passing parameters to the flash app? The documentation seems a little

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
Have a look at this: http://examples.adobe.com/flex2/inproduct/sdk/explorer/explorer.html careful when your jaw drops.. ;-) And this is what you can do with them (and alot more): http://examples.adobe.com/flex2/consulting/styleexplorer/Flex2StyleExplorer.html regards, Muzak - Original Messa

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
Sorry, I don't buy the "time factor" argument. Everything, including webservices and flash remoting was already there, written for Flex 2. Unfortunatly you can not just grab the webservice/remoting source files and copy them over to Flash, they're compiled as a swc file. UI Component class sourc

RE: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Merrill, Jason
>Everything, including webservices and flash remoting was >>already there, written for Flex 2. >> >>Unfortunatly you can not just grab the webservice/remoting >>source files and copy them over to Flash, they're compiled as >>a swc file. So dumb question, I haven't looked and don't have CS3 yet,

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
If it wasn't so enmeshed in the flex framework, the tree component could be written to work with the flash components. When you try and compile the components it balks about mx_internal namespace not being defined. 1004: Namespace was not found or is not a compile-time constant. Apparently the

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
You can do remoting with Netconnection.calls. Web Services are nonexistent for flash player 9 apps created in flash 9 cs3. We definitely need to get this integrated fully. Merrill, Jason wrote: Everything, including webservices and flash remoting was already there, written for Flex 2.

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Claus Wahlers
Apparently the flash 9 cs3 compiler uses the same compiler so I dont see why this couldnt be done to integrate parts of the flex framework components into flash. That would be awesome. That's not as easy as it sounds. Base classes work differently, styling works differently, etc pp, Flash do

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Regarding Jason's question, NO. As yet Flash CS3 has no AS3 classes/components for WebService or Remoting. And no where have I seen any promised. (I would like to see them, so if anyone from Adobe is on this list and might like to tell us that there one day will be Flash CS3 AS3 Data Components

[Flashcoders] CS3 TextField example (what is missing here?)

2007-06-05 Thread Ruslan Shestopal
Hi, List! I am trying to implement a simple example located at: file:///C:/Documents%20and%20Settings/All%20Users/Application%20Data/Adobe/F lash%20CS3/en/Configuration/HelpPanel/Help/ActionScriptLangRefV3/flash/text/ TextFormat.html (see bottom of a page) Nothing seems to be working within pack

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Austin Kottke
Good points. My only thing on the upgrading is, you make an application that includes some components from version 8. You then get the new software (version 9) and try to port an application over to use it in version 9 to take advantage of the speed and other features, etc. Skinning, e4X - P

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread greg h
Spot on Austin. Yup. "You then get the new software ... and try to port an application" and "You then cannot ... because you ... have ... components ... missing." Yes sirree, that is how I figured it out. Regarding "It would be good if Adobe could make an official statement on this." Like may

[Flashcoders] examples of scripting the Flash application?

2007-06-05 Thread Roy Pardi
Would anyone have links handy of example for scripting the Flash app? Even better would be data driven scripting. I have a client who has frequent need of generating simple timelines that consist of instancing a movieClip from the Library, naming it and entering some display text in the clip. I co

[Flashcoders] MovieClips and levels

2007-06-05 Thread David Cohn
Hey all, Is there a way to "transfer", or copy, a movieClip between levels? I'd like to do something like: var mc = somelevel.createEmptyMovieClip(..); ...and then have the root be able to access it: _root.copyMovieClip( mc ) or _root.attachMovieByReference(

Re: [Flashcoders] examples of scripting the Flash application?

2007-06-05 Thread Muzak
Not sure I completely understand what you're asking, but it sounds like you're looking for JSFL. http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/8/main/Part7_Extending.html http://livedocs.adobe.com/flash/9.0/main/flash_cs3_extending.pdf - Original Message - From: "Roy Pardi" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To:

[Flashcoders] Perspective Transformation

2007-06-05 Thread João Paulo Gino do Rego
I need a create Perspective Transformation in BitmapData in AS3? I don't like Sandy exist other? Thanks a lot JP ___ Flashcoders@chattyfig.figleaf.com To change your subscription options or search the archive: http://chattyfig.figleaf.com/mailman/lis

Re: [Flashcoders] MovieClips and levels

2007-06-05 Thread Patrick Lemiuex
No. You can make a bitmap copy then attachBitmap. I'd suggest getting into Flash CS3 and/or Flex. Goodbye to the old movieclip levels. It was so difficult to manage. Cheers Patrick On Jun 5, 2007, at 6:13 PM, David Cohn wrote: Hey all, Is there a way to "transfer", or copy, a movieClip

Re: [Flashcoders] Flash CS3 Prof copy: missing Tree component.

2007-06-05 Thread Arul Prasad M L
Is someone in here game for development of all those components missing in the V3 component set? A set of extended V3 components - in AS3 and follows the same architecture as the adobe V3 components. Tree, and alert ( and hence Window ) are the ones that I think many are gonna be missing... I c

Re: [Flashcoders] Perspective Transformation

2007-06-05 Thread Zeh Fernando
I need a create Perspective Transformation in BitmapData in AS3? I don't like Sandy exist other? Well, you can use Papervision3D. Like Sandy, it doesn't "transform" anything, but rather project a plane using triangles. So the quality of the projection will depend on triangulation. If you're