You can also get Flex 3 for free if you are a student or unemployed:
https://freeriatools.adobe.com/
Leandro Ferreira
Sent from Brasília, Brazilian Federal District, Brazil
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 16:32, kinda...@gmail.com kinda...@gmail.comwrote:
And if you buy it in europe, it costs
And if you buy it in europe, it costs aproximatly 799 € + VAT... or 799
£ + VAT...
Last time i checked Adobe prices, it was cheaper to get a round-trip
plane to NY, spend there the weekend, with hotel and all... but the
retail package, and back...
And you would even get it cheaper!
[it was
Does Flex costs all that?
I think flash/flex is no option :s
It's too expensive to brazillian market :p
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:09, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote:
Sid Ferreira wrote:
How many time Flex/Flash took to pay it self?
I think a lot of people on the flash lists don't
The Flex SDK is free,
Flex Builder 3 (the current version) is $249
Ian
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sid Ferreira sid@gmail.com wrote:
Does Flex costs all that?
I think flash/flex is no option :s
It's too expensive to brazillian market :p
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:09, Paul
And Adobe Flash?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:47, Ian Thomas i...@eirias.net wrote:
The Flex SDK is free,
Flex Builder 3 (the current version) is $249
Ian
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 8:40 AM, Sid Ferreira sid@gmail.com wrote:
Does Flex costs all that?
I think flash/flex is no option
Sid Ferreira wrote:
Does Flex costs all that?
The $15K was Flex 1.0 - years ago.
I think flash/flex is no option :s
It's too expensive to brazillian market :p
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:09, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote:
Sid Ferreira wrote:
How many time Flex/Flash took
I suggest you look at the website:
http://www.adobe.com/products/flash/
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 9:01 AM, Sid Ferreira sid@gmail.com wrote:
And Adobe Flash?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 06:47, Ian Thomas i...@eirias.net wrote:
The Flex SDK is free,
Flex Builder 3 (the current version) is
Sid Ferreira wrote:
And Adobe Flash?
799 USD for one standalone normal license. 299 USD for the upgrade deal.
There are packages and student discounts available.
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Damn... 1k USD... and there are all the taxes... more than I get in 1 month
(yeah, Brazil pays too low)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 10:51, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.netwrote:
Sid Ferreira wrote:
And Adobe Flash?
799 USD for one standalone normal license. 299 USD for the upgrade deal.
Hello Sid,
Damn... 1k USD... and there are all the taxes... more than I get in 1 month
(yeah, Brazil pays too low)
http://www.cleoag.ru/2009/11/12/langenfew-secret-videos-langenlangru-langru/
50 EU
--
iv
http://www.bezier.ru
http://bezier.googlecode.com
didn't got it
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:12, Ivan Dembicki ivan.dembi...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello Sid,
Damn... 1k USD... and there are all the taxes... more than I get in 1
month
(yeah, Brazil pays too low)
http://www.cleoag.ru/2009/11/12/langenfew-secret-videos-langenlangru-langru/
50
Sid Ferreira wrote:
didn't got it
It was probably intended for the new thread, not this one.
Where do you get $1,000 from?
How do you code flash now?
Paul
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:12, Ivan Dembicki ivan.dembi...@gmail.comwrote:
Hello Sid,
Damn... 1k USD... and there are all
Here in Brazil a very good and talented developer can hit $1,200 (my case)
each month.
Used to run pirate software, but I want to get 100% legal.. It is correct,
it is fair... and in the today world is even cool ;-)
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 11:44, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote:
Sid
Sid Ferreira wrote:
Used to run pirate software, but I want to get 100% legal.. It is correct,
it is fair... and in the today world is even cool ;-)
Good for you! I know software is expensive relative to wages in Brazil,
and a lot of other countries. To make it worse, a lot of Adobe's products
...@chattyfig.figleaf.com] On Behalf Of Sid Ferreira
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 10:55 AM
To: Flash Coders List
Subject: Re: [Flashcoders] Who uses Adobe Flex?
Mmm... now I got a question:
How to create an AS3 animated button without using flash... I mean, images,
behaviours, etc...
Any tutorial in mind
Mmm... now I got a question:
How to create an AS3 animated button without using flash... I mean, images,
behaviours, etc...
Any tutorial in mind?
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 13:30, al...@cyberiantiger.biz wrote:
Sid Ferreira wrote:
Used to run pirate software, but I want to get 100% legal.. It
Sid Ferreira wrote:
Mmm... now I got a question:
How to create an AS3 animated button without using flash... I mean,
images,
behaviours, etc...
Any tutorial in mind?
Well, here's one tutorial
http://forums.greensock.com/viewtopic.php?f=1t=17. I haven't tried it,
but you can find other
it uses a FLA :-/
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 14:18, al...@cyberiantiger.biz wrote:
Sid Ferreira wrote:
Mmm... now I got a question:
How to create an AS3 animated button without using flash... I mean,
images,
behaviours, etc...
Any tutorial in mind?
Well, here's one tutorial
Sid Ferreira wrote:
it uses a FLA :-/
Ok, I'll take some time to write an animated button class. It's something
we can use here, too. I'll post it after lunch (it's 11:30 a.m. here).
Cordially,
Kerry Thompson
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Sid Ferreira schrieb:
Does Flex costs all that?
I think flash/flex is no option :s
It's too expensive to brazillian market :p
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 23:09, Paul Andrews p...@ipauland.com wrote:
Sid Ferreira wrote:
How many time Flex/Flash took to pay it self?
I think a
I know this isn't actually an Adobe Flex / Adobe Flash Builder list
(actually, if you know a good one, forward me), but today a client sent a
briefing asking the website to be done in Adobe Flex.
Once it will need CEO and it isn't for small audiences, we plan to deny it,
but then I got the doubt:
I do website with flex, flex builder is a best IDE thant Flash IDE. And
using flex is more easy to do somethings, and one good thing for me it is
less code lines.
Some website I do, in spanish.
http://www.salgueda.com/
http://www.bricoceramic.com/
Giro.
2009/11/18 Sid Ferreira
Giro wrote:
I do website with flex, flex builder is a best IDE thant Flash IDE. And
using flex is more easy to do somethings, and one good thing for me it is
less code lines.
I find the opposite to be true. The swf format has a lot of neat
features that you are just throwing away when using
Well, indeed you changed my mind...
Now, a thing that bothers me is that buttons, for instance, uses timeline
and not AS animation...
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:19, Cedric Muller flashco...@benga.li wrote:
Hi,
My answer is one of those very general and informative answers, please
pardon me
Hi,
But you can easily create your own button type class rather than use
the Flash symbols...
Glen
Sid Ferreira wrote:
Well, indeed you changed my mind...
Now, a thing that bothers me is that buttons, for instance, uses timeline
and not AS animation...
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at
I need to retake the studies in flex...
At this moment Im deciding between Html 5 or focus in the flash media...
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 09:51, Glen Pike g...@engineeredarts.co.uk wrote:
Hi,
But you can easily create your own button type class rather than use the
Flash symbols...
Hi! I tend to start a project in flash IDE and then code it all the way
inside a flex bluider or eclipse + FDT. I just use my IDE for Flash
assets like custom constructed components. That way you have all the
neat code hinting (wich you still dont have in IDE) and have all the
good things from
But, now the big question: How to handle with the legal costs? In brazil
there are many people using flash, most of them I doubt are legal...
Mauro: Are you brazillian?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:04, Mauro Martins
mauroalexandremart...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi! I tend to start a project in flash
You can use vector graphics on flex. You can create this on flash and export
to flex as symbol inside a swf.
On flex you can scale and don't lose quality.
Giro..
2009/11/18 Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net
Giro wrote:
I do website with flex, flex builder is a best IDE thant Flash
Giro wrote:
You can use vector graphics on flex. You can create this on flash and export
to flex as symbol inside a swf.
On flex you can scale and don't lose quality.
Using Flash to create graphics for flex kinda defeats the point of flex,
doesn't it?
This is a real problem... it's over expensive a flash license...
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:35, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.netwrote:
Giro wrote:
You can use vector graphics on flex. You can create this on flash and
export
to flex as symbol inside a swf.
On flex you can scale and
Not. You only use flash to create a vector graphic, but not code on flash,
all code is in flex. The same for example if you user photoshop to create
jpeg and use this jpeg on flex.
Giro
2009/11/18 Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net
Giro wrote:
You can use vector graphics on flex. You can
What about handle libraries?
Create classes to define the look of a button?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 10:46, Giro g...@enhoresdefeina.com wrote:
Not. You only use flash to create a vector graphic, but not code on flash,
all code is in flex. The same for example if you user photoshop to create
Sid Ferreira wrote:
I know this isn't actually an Adobe Flex / Adobe Flash Builder list
(actually, if you know a good one, forward me),
I don't know how anyone on a flashcoders list could possibly miss
flexcoders, or the adobe flex forums.. ;-)
but today a client sent a
briefing asking the
Paul Andrews wrote:
Stuff
Allow me to summarize your post:
You think that Flash is good for graphical projects, such as animations.
You also think that Flex builder is better for creating software.
You like the Flex components and how they are data driven.
You acknowledge that Flex projects
Allow me to summarize your post:
You think that Flash is good for graphical projects, such as animations. You
also think that Flex builder is better for creating software.
You like the Flex components and how they are data driven.
You acknowledge that Flex projects end up larger, due to
Dave Watts wrote:
Allow me to summarize your post:
That never works out very well, does it? Because it seems to me that
your summary missed a lot of Paul's points.
When summarizing, you have to remove details. I just focused on what I
felt was the core message.
But if you just see Flex
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net wrote:
My opinion:
I think that Flash is better for anything that isn't strictly code only, and
that is more or less all projects, since it's quite boring to design
graphics using code.
The upcoming code completion in
Henrik Andersson wrote:
Paul Andrews wrote:
Stuff
Allow me to summarize your post:
You think that Flash is good for graphical projects, such as
animations. You also think that Flex builder is better for creating
software.
You like the Flex components and how they are data driven.
You
The cool thing is the future :)
Adobe wants to correct this bias; Flash Builder will happen, and the
distinction between Flex Builder and Flex framework will melt. There
we will be happy and everything :)
The IDE is about to get all dressed up for a sexy evening ;)
Now, if one could,
Ian Thomas wrote:
Stuff
You seem to ignore the components that Flash does ship with. We can
fight about whose components are the best, but I am not interested in that.
I also never claimed that they where rivals, I see them as different
tools designed for different tasks.
You seem to
Glen Pike wrote:
But you can easily create your own button type class rather than use
the Flash symbols...
In fact, you can do your buttons, or movie clips, and the like in Flash.
Publish the .swf, and you can download it using Flex and use all the
assets in it.
Flex's real strong point
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 3:32 PM, Henrik Andersson he...@henke37.cjb.net wrote:
You seem to ignore the components that Flash does ship with. We can fight
about whose components are the best, but I am not interested in that.
Neither am I.
I also never claimed that they where rivals, I see them
I'd just like to add:
- I use Flash for some projects.
- I use the Flex SDK + Flash for other projects.
It's simply about choosing the right tool for the job.
Getting back to the original poster's question, as Giro has
demonstrated with his samples, yes there are good sites written in
Flex, and
Henrik Andersson wrote
Using Flash to create graphics for flex kinda defeats the point of flex,
doesn't it?
Not at all. You can have a broad code base, a fully OOP implementation, in
Flex, for your programmers. Your designers and artists use Flash. There's
no conflict--in fact, it's the best
Sidn Ferreira wrote:
At this moment Im deciding between Html 5 or focus in the flash media...
It's not an either-or choice. You can use both. Javascript, too. We do on
our site, www.poptropica.com.
Cordially,
Kerry Thompson
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In Kerry's post read:
There are other development environments for Flex, such as
FlashBuilder, which is free
as
There are other development environments for Flex, such as
FlashDEVELOP, which is free
and read
Flex is the free Eclipse-based base
Flex IDE which is not free is build upon
In Kerry's post read:
There are other development environments for Flex, such as
FlashBuilder, which is free
as
There are other development environments for Flex, such as
FlashDEVELOP, which is free
and read
Flex is the free Eclipse-based base
Flex IDE which is not free is build upon
Allow me to summarize your post:
That never works out very well, does it? Because it seems to me that
your summary missed a lot of Paul's points.
When summarizing, you have to remove details. I just focused on what I felt
was the core message.
Right, but Paul may disagree with you about
Dave Watts wrote:
Allow me to summarize your post:
That never works out very well, does it? Because it seems to me that
your summary missed a lot of Paul's points.
When summarizing, you have to remove details. I just focused on what I felt
was the core message.
Right,
I am still quite amazed that Macromedia ever developed Flex. I suspect that
a few people on the list might not know that originally it would cost
something like $6,000 for a Flex licence and some serious server power was
also required.
More than that - Flex 1.x was around $15k USD according
How many time Flex/Flash took to pay it self?
On Wed, Nov 18, 2009 at 22:29, Dave Watts dwa...@figleaf.com wrote:
I am still quite amazed that Macromedia ever developed Flex. I suspect
that
a few people on the list might not know that originally it would cost
something like $6,000 for a
How many time Flex/Flash took to pay it self?
$15K USD is a drop in the bucket for enterprise software.
Dave Watts, CTO, Fig Leaf Software
http://www.figleaf.com/
Fig Leaf Software provides the highest caliber vendor-authorized
instruction at our training centers in Washington DC, Atlanta,
Sid Ferreira wrote:
How many time Flex/Flash took to pay it self?
I think a lot of people on the flash lists don't realise how much money
some corporates invest in software development. $15K would be a fraction
of the development costs in some projects. It's a completely different
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