Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-22 Thread dorkie dork from dorktown
barf. I do get sick of pious comments like this. I >> mean – the guy just asked a simple question. Architecture is a subject best >> served after a developer has a chance to get cozy with the technology. I >> mean – I appreciate your desire to go deep on this question but really… >> mil

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Merrill, Jason
II Bank of America Global Learning ___ From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul Andrews Sent: Monday, December 19, 2011 1:18 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product On 19/12/2011 17:58, John McCormac

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Paul Andrews
On 19/12/2011 17:58, John McCormack wrote: The general consensus is that a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... ) / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ). b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the n

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread John McCormack
The general consensus is that a. People hate Flash. ( dont really know why!!! after reading all the HTML 5 vs Flash articles... ) / Developers hate javascript ( atleast the people who like the OOP paradigm! ). b. Developers love AS3. ( Its the next best thing to chocolate! ) / People love

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Carlos Rovira
r compile the code on the client end it really doesnt >>> matter. >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 19, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Rick Winscot wrote: >>> >>>> ** >>>> >>>> >>>> Hmm… if Falcon is 10x faster than the previous compiler – cou

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread ganaraj p r
t; >>> ** >>> >>> >>> Hmm… if Falcon is 10x faster than the previous compiler – could you >>> incrementally feed it and have it emit to the browser? Kind of like a >>> progressive download? >>> >>> >>> From: ganaraj p r >

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Rogerio Gonzalez
t;> >> >> From: ganaraj p r >> Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" >> Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 + >> To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" >> >> Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product >> >> >> >>

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread ganaraj p r
oad? > > > From: ganaraj p r > Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" > Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2011 10:17:54 +0000 > To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product > > > > All that adobe needs to do is, start att

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Rick Winscot
yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product All that adobe needs to do is, start attempting to replace the current JS with AS3. Currently AS3 is a compiled language and JS is an interpreted language. Now can adobe come up with an interpreter for as3? On Mon,

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread ganaraj p r
; The whole situation just feels like a regression > > to me. > > > > > > > > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of > > Rick Winscot > > Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29 > > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product > > > > > > > > > > > > The charts? The dashboard? The app as a whole? > > Yes. I'd recommend looking into the ExtJS samples > > at Sencha. > > > > > > > > http://www.sencha.com/products/extjs/ > > > -- Regards, Ganaraj P R

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-19 Thread Peter Ginneberge
line of it ! As I mentioned earlier, if FlashBuilder would do something similar, I'd be all over it. And it can be done, haXe already does that. http://haxe.org/ regards, Peter - Original Message - From: "Glenn Williams" To: Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2011 6:45 PM Sub

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Alex Harui
guage even further forward. The whole situation just feels like a regression to me. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Winscot Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product The c

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Csomák Gábor
even > further forward. > > > > The whole situation just feels like a regression to me. > > > > *From:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] *On > Behalf Of *Rick Winscot > *Sent:* 18 December 2011 01:29 > *To:* flexcoders@yahoogroups.com &g

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Glenn Williams
situation just feels like a regression to me. From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Winscot Sent: 18 December 2011 01:29 To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product The charts? The dashboard? The app as a

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Haykel BEN JEMIA
cozy with the technology. I > mean – I appreciate your desire to go deep on this question but really… > milk before meat. The question was simple – if he needs more – let the > subject blossom. > > > From: Robert VanCuren Jr > Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" >

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-18 Thread Rick Winscot
n but reallyŠ milk before meat. The question was simple ­ if he needs more ­ let the subject blossom. From: Robert VanCuren Jr Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2011 01:01:27 -0500 To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Robert VanCuren Jr
> From: Dave Glasser > Reply-To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 17:22:39 -0800 (PST) > To: "flexcoders@yahoogroups.com" > > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product > > > > Can you do something comparable to this with H

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Rick Winscot
groups.com" Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Can you do something comparable to this with HTML5/JS/CSS? http://examples2.idashboards.com/idashboards/?guestuser=wputil1&dashID=260 If so, do you have any links to examples? ___

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Dave Glasser
Can you do something comparable to this with HTML5/JS/CSS? http://examples2.idashboards.com/idashboards/?guestuser=wputil1&dashID=260 If so, do you have any links to examples? From: Guy Morton Using HTML/JS/CSS you CAN do apps that look every bit as nice as Fl

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Scott Fanetti
>>> >>>> Does anybody expect Flash to run on a Kindle or a Nook? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> In my little world of fantasy… I wish I knew how Flash worked… Perhaps a >>>> standards-based Flash lite could be cranked into HTML-

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-17 Thread Guy Morton
h to run on a Kindle or a Nook? >>> >>> >>> >>> In my little world of fantasy… I wish I knew how Flash worked… Perhaps a >>> standards-based Flash lite could be cranked into HTML-6. >>> >>> >>> >>> --Bill >&g

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Peter Ginneberge
Friday, December 16, 2011 7:16 PM Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product My sense is that Adobe has realized that it close to impossible to port Flash to the staggering proliferation of tablets, smart phones, and other devices. Does anybody expect Flash to run on a Kindle or a Nook?

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Scott Fanetti
t;> In my little world of fantasy… I wish I knew how Flash worked… Perhaps a >> standards-based Flash lite could be cranked into HTML-6. >> >> >> >> --Bill >> >> >> >> From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Bill Brutzman
@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Guy Morton Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 4:16 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product SVG + Javascript + Canvas ARE the equivalent to Flash in the web standards world. On 17/12/2011, at 5:16 AM, Bill Brutzman wrote

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Gordon Smith
Behalf Of Mihai Vrinceanu Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 11:20 AM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product Flash Player is a virtual machine. Last time I opened a *.swf file in a hex editor, it was a compressed file (I think zlib). After you decompress the

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Guy Morton
t; > From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On > Behalf Of Kevin MacDonald > Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM > To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product > > > > > > Good points. Thanks fo

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Mihai Vrinceanu
oduct. Adobe should make it open source, invest money in future versions and sell support services (RedHat tactics).  --- On Fri, 12/16/11, Bill Brutzman wrote: From: Bill Brutzman Subject: RE: [flexcoders] You are the product To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Date: Friday, December 16, 2011, 8:

RE: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Bill Brutzman
standards-based Flash lite could be cranked into HTML-6. --Bill From: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com [mailto:flexcoders@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Kevin MacDonald Sent: Friday, December 16, 2011 12:50 PM To: flexcoders@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [flexcoders] You are the product Good

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Kevin MacDonald
Good points. Thanks for responding. I'm not sure why you conflate me knocking Adobe for a lack of willingness to learn. I code on a daily basis in half a dozen languages for a small company struggling to reach profitability. Our client application is one piece of that. The 'learning' in this case i

Re: [flexcoders] You are the product

2011-12-16 Thread Csomák Gábor
technology simply changes. i met a guy who was the lead engineer of commodore 64. do you think when he was on the top of his career, he stopped learning? this segment changes a lot. it is a lifelong learning. get used to it. html5 is not ready. even w3c says it'll be in 2014 (as i remember). and i