Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: gui theming

2005-07-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On July 12, 2005 05:18 pm, Jim Wilson wrote: Excellent work Melchior!  A long overdue update. Does anyone care about the translucency?  I'm not sure yet if I do.  Maybe just a slight dab of transparency with this dark background scheme might show enough of the scene to help pilots stay on the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Google Earth

2005-07-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On July 9, 2005 06:50 am, Carlos Zaragoza Koblischek wrote: Has anyone used Google Earth? It seems to be very usefull for getting information to place objects with FGSD. How do they get the elevation of the buildings? They probably make use of parallax... at least, that is how we measure

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Regarding buildings (was Shadows)

2005-06-30 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 30, 2005 02:36 am, Frederic Bouvier wrote: Look a second time : http://fgfsdb.stockill.org/modeledit.php?id=150 ;-) -Fred No, no. By surroundings, I mean parks, parking lots, plazas, ponds, trees, etc. =)

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About 3D Clouds

2005-06-30 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 30, 2005 01:40 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: You need to sync the data or at least data/preferences.xml and data/gui/dialogs/rendering.xml Harald. Oh, that explains it. I kept updating the source of SimGear and FlightGear thinking the problem is originated there, and didn't touch the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About 3D Clouds

2005-06-30 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 30, 2005 02:04 pm, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: Oh, that explains it.  I kept updating the source of SimGear and FlightGear thinking the problem is originated there, and didn't touch the base package. =)) I will update those files now. Thank you very much, Ampere I got it working now

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About 3D Clouds

2005-06-29 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 28, 2005 12:06 am, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On June 27, 2005 04:26 am, Erik Hofman wrote: Harald at one point added a check to make sure the RenderTexture context was actually available. It almost looks like this was a bit too drastic. Erik Interesting. I happen to keep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Regarding buildings (was Shadows)

2005-06-29 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 28, 2005 04:47 am, Frederic Bouvier wrote: On June 27, 2005 05:00 pm, Frederic Bouvier wrote: In the first, an oracle building cast its shadow on another one http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs-shadow-1.jpg If I go forward a bit, the shadow disappear :

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About 3D Clouds

2005-06-29 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 29, 2005 09:24 am, Simon Hollier wrote: No 3D clouds on an r200(9200) with the latest ATI(8.14.13) driver : No suitable pixel format. Shadows work nicely though : Simon I don't see any evidence of a shadow with my graphic card (ATI 9200SE). May be my graphic card doesn't support it.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] About 3D Clouds

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 27, 2005 04:26 am, Erik Hofman wrote: Harald at one point added a check to make sure the RenderTexture context was actually available. It almost looks like this was a bit too drastic. Erik Interesting. I happen to keep getting an error regarding RenderTextuer context -- in both

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shadows

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 25, 2005 01:49 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: Paul Kahler wrote: Oh does that sound like a bad hack. What happens to objects that have specular highlights? Would the illumination be as if the sun were shining rather than the spotlight? Lighting is important, but this doesn't seem like it's

Re: [Flightgear-devel] ..multi-X trick ideas, was: FlightGear got killed (seems like memory problem)

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 27, 2005 01:15 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..a tad drastic, for FG development, you could simply set up two runlevels, say runlevel 2 to run xorg and runlevel 3 to run XFree, these 2 runlevels could othervise be identical.   ..to push this further, you could also use runlevel 4 to run

[Flightgear-devel] Regarding buildings (was Shadows)

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 27, 2005 05:00 pm, Frederic Bouvier wrote: In the first, an oracle building cast its shadow on another one http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs-shadow-1.jpg If I go forward a bit, the shadow disappear : http://frbouvi.free.fr/flightsim/fgfs-shadow-2.jpg Would it make sense to give

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shadows

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 27, 2005 05:40 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Yes, that's a tough one ... think about what happens when the sun is low in the sky ... an object that casts a shadow on the current view could be *way* outside the view frustum.  I don't really understand how shadows work, but you'd almost

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jitter related

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 27, 2005 04:19 am, bass pumped wrote: 1.  When an aircraft has ZERO velocity, given some rudder input, and also when there is no wind, should the rudder actually have any effect at all?  I see the c-172 actually turn, and over a period of time, if left alone, flip over, do some

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Jitter related

2005-06-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 28, 2005 01:04 am, bass pumped wrote: I've seen what you talk about in all aircraft... except the point is that there is NO WIND!!!  In my case, the wind direction is zero, the wind speed is zero, turbulence is zero, and I am not fetching real time data.  Unless there is some code

[Flightgear-devel] FlightGear got killed (seems like memory problem)

2005-06-26 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Hello, I uninstalled Xorg and went back to XFree today so I could do some testing with XFree and the latest FlightGear CVS. I got the following outputs from FlightGear: RenderTexture Error: Couldn't find a suitable pixel format. WARNING: ssgLoadAC: Failed to open

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New aircraft ideas ?

2005-06-24 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 24, 2005 11:39 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: Got an idea for a new aircraft (not airplane) you'd like to try ? http://www.dodsbir.net/Topics/Default.asp   Topic: A05-208 ..concerns semiballistic 40-105 mm munitions with enhanced lethality capable of striking targets of opportunity

Re: [Flightgear-devel] (OT) River Visual Rwy 19 DCA

2005-06-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 10:11 pm, Dave Culp wrote: Here's some guy flying the River Visual to Runway 19 at DCA. This is a 19MB avi file. I'll leave this up for a couple days, then remove it to put the hangar back up. http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/dca_visual_19.AVI Dave You

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lights was: Shadows

2005-06-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 21, 2005 03:34 am, Roman Grigoriev wrote: to Harald JOHNSEN: spot lights in fgfs I had 3 years ago. they worked on vertex program and registercombiners but everyone afraid of vertex programs and multitexturing You can see some screens here http://fgfs.narod.ru In my opinion, if the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: carb-heat

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 09:58 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: Melchior FRANZ wrote: fgfs developers aren't only pedantic, but also lazy.  :-)   Errr ... busy. :-) Curt. Or chaotic. =) Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Lights was: Shadows

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 12:53 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: You are a genius, forget my previous reply. We can't lighten pixels from the framebuffer because of the low precision (8 bits) but we can of course darken them. Algo (works better at full night) : 1) render the scene and all non emissive

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 20, 2005 05:01 pm, Melchior FRANZ wrote: http://members.aon.at/mfranz/fgfs_gui.jpg  [80 kB] m. Oh boy! A bo105 with a cloaking device! =P How much chance do you think I have if I want to sneak up on some Romulans? hehe... Ampere ___

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Just for fun ...

2005-06-20 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 21, 2005 01:39 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: I like these title bars -- they combine two necessary elements (title, exit button) -- and thus safe some vertical space. Hey, will the dialog shade if I double click on the title bar? =P Ampere ___

[Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
If I found a lot of inaccuracies in an airport and want to get them fixed, who should I talk to? Thanks in advance, Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Getting an airport fixed

2005-06-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 19, 2005 04:10 pm, Gerard Robin wrote: I have the same request LFPO is wrong: -- take off point beside the runway Thanks -- Gerard For me, it is the LFBO. 14L/32R is a dirt runway, and there is no taxiway connected to the ends of 14R/32L. =/ I notice another airport around the

[Flightgear-devel] Some opinions, detail analysis, and ideas related to FlightGear

2005-06-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Hello, This thread in the FlightGear section on Avsim is getting pretty informative. The thread started out as a form of feature request, but it eventually focus on the funding issue of FlightGear. Please check it out:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: old 3d clouds code

2005-06-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 17, 2005 01:17 am, Mathias Frhlich wrote: On Donnerstag 16 Juni 2005 21:12, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: I have short circuted that with an unconditional false return in line 461 in RenderTexture.cpp. The crash happens in the first call to glXCreateGLXPbufferSGIX a few lines

Re: [Flightgear-devel] getting the best perfo with FG

2005-06-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 17, 2005 03:17 am, BONNEVILLE David wrote: Hi again people, problem solved ! :D I've just recompiled the latest cvs of plib, simgear and FlightGear, turned on the threads flags, and now I have a FG running up to 60 fps (i have forced the synchro with the vertical refresh). Cuold

Re: [Flightgear-devel] need help for convertion(importing) fron MSFS into Flightgear

2005-06-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 17, 2005 10:53 am, yue xianf wrote: hi Gerard: Thanks lot, I found the hope to finish my project. Clifford What aircraft is it that you intent to port over? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shadows

2005-06-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 17, 2005 03:02 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: I have started to add some volumetric shadows in Flightgear. It uses the standard stencil method to count shadow volume (let me know if you want an implementation without stencil, it can also be done with the alpha buffer). A few days ago I

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Shadows

2005-06-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Forgive my annoyance, but here are a few more questions. =) First of all, I am seeing a potential problem when the sun is below the horizon (during dawn and dusk) and doesn't cast any shadow onto the ground. Does your code handle this special case at the moment? If so, how? Secondly, do

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: old 3d clouds code

2005-06-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 16, 2005 01:18 am, Mathias Frhlich wrote: Look into that. I believed that this was integrated somehow. That looks phantastic and does things like that. Watch the video on the bottom of that page. Greetings Mathias I have just finished watching the video. Yes, the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: old 3d clouds code

2005-06-16 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 16, 2005 01:24 am, Mathias Frhlich wrote: I tried with 24. On a recent Mesa CVS r200 driver I get the same error message. With the r200 driver from my distro it just crashes. I have short circuted that with an unconditional false return in line 461 in RenderTexture.cpp. The crash

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: old 3d clouds code

2005-06-15 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 15, 2005 04:05 am, Erik Hofman wrote: There where a few reports that one would need at least 24/32 bit colors to get it working (although it used to work with 16 bits in previous versions). It used to work with 16 bits. After I upgraded from the latest CVS version, the 3D clouds don't

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Colditz Glider

2005-06-14 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 6, 2005 06:44 pm, Josh Babcock wrote: Well, take a look at what I put in, no wires, though I could do that with about zero trouble if people think it would add to the model. Personally I don't think it would add much though. Also I think the bar I put in there is pretty sensible. Now

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Water isn't the only other material that should be modelled. There are also other materials such as grass and soil. Right now, I can take a short cut across the grass in any airport without concern, and these sort of behaviours should bring some consequences. =) Ampere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] A380 3D model FDM reference point

2005-06-13 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 13, 2005 02:40 pm, Innis Cunningham wrote: Hi Martin Martin Spott writes Hello, just an informal note To my impression the A380 needs an offset vector for the FDM reference point in order to make it rotate around its CG. Could the author confirm ? This is correct I was

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New developer

2005-06-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 13, 2005 12:42 am, Manuel Bessler wrote: The stuff is still here: 1. http://cockpit.varxec.de/fgfs/fgfs_717-200.tar.bz2 2. http://cockpit.varxec.de/fgfs/fgfs_717-200_71.blend.gz They are not there. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 11, 2005 06:07 pm, Oliver C. wrote: I agree with the terrain. But i think that airplanes need to be able to sink after they crash. :) So the best way would be to make the terrain and watersurfaces independent from each other. This would also have some positive side effects because it

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New developer

2005-06-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 11, 2005 03:06 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All! I would like to contribute to flightgear project... I'm interested in converting italian scenery from MSFS (I already know that it is not possible to distribute stuff that it isn't GPL compatible) and creating an MD-82 model for

Re: [Flightgear-devel] poll

2005-06-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
hmm... flying undersea. Isn't that what submarines do? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] After crash , Restart ?

2005-06-09 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 9, 2005 05:28 pm, Martin Spott wrote: I'm curious if it is possible to 'simply' define the whole model as a contact point and let the OpenGL subsystem detect terrain collision. This would require some return channel from the OpenGL system back to the application and I have no idea if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Airports Data + Zoom + SHIPs

2005-06-08 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Perhaps seperating land and water would be the next thing on the agenda? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft models

2005-06-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 3, 2005 12:33 pm, Jon Berndt wrote: I'm interested in tallying up the existing JSBSim aircraft flight models. I'd be interested to know (either by posting here or sending me a personal email) which aircraft you have modeled. It seems there are a lot of models floating around that are

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cannot put character with ascii code 0 into the property tree

2005-06-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 1, 2005 07:02 pm, Andy Ross wrote: This isn't fixable without relatively major surgery, so for now I think you're stuck.  Maybe Melchior's suggestion of storing your data in Nasal space is the best one for the moment. Okay. I think I came up with something using Nasal. =) Objects in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cannot put character with ascii code 0 into the property tree

2005-06-01 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I don';t think the property tree cares much, I expect this is a string handling problem in Nasal because it is written in C(++). Actually, it is the otherway around: Nasal doesn't care, while the property tree does. I hope Nasal stays that way. Oh wait, Ampere is actually trying to put \0

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Cannot put character with ascii code 0 into the property tree

2005-06-01 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On June 1, 2005 04:23 pm, Andy Ross wrote: My guess is that the property tree doesn't care either, and it's simply the output routine that is truncating the string due to the embedded null.  Is there some sample code to exhibit the problem? Andy Do you mean something like this? # **

[Flightgear-devel] Cannot put character with ascii code 0 into the property tree

2005-05-31 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I have been experimenting with Nasal lately. The focus of my experiment is to have one Nasal script communicate with another using the property tree. In an attempt of communication, a Nasal script of mine placed the following stream of characters to the property tree: 1, 80, 194, 0, 0, 0, 0,

Re: [Flightgear-devel] .ac file format

2005-05-29 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 29, 2005 12:16 pm, Gerard ROBIN wrote: If your whishes are: using GMAX In windows environment (is valuable with linux + wine too) It is possible to convert from .gmax to .ac If GMax native file can work in Flightgear directly, then there wouldn't be need for conversions.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear startup time

2005-05-26 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 26, 2005 04:32 pm, Andy Ross wrote: Would it be possible to have a compiled form stroed on disk, which is automatically regenerated on startup of FGFS based on rules similar to make. If the ASCII version is newer than the compiled version, rebuild the compiled version. Sorry, but

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: FlightGear startup time

2005-05-26 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 26, 2005 01:43 pm, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: How so?  Python does it by compiling a new *.pyc everytime there is a change to the associated *.py file. Ampere Beside, you don't compile Flightgear everytime you run it. You compile Flightgear when there is a change in the source

[Flightgear-devel] MD-11 is slow (was FlightGear startup time)

2005-05-24 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 24, 2005 07:45 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: for (3): use as few textures as possible; You can:          - edit material.xml and let it share textures (only one wood texture) or start fgfs in the desert :-)          - use aircraft with few and small textures (hint: avoid the MD-11 :-) -

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Colditz Glider

2005-05-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 18, 2005 06:25 am, Steve Hosgood wrote: The original glider had no instruments of course. For this model, I've pinched the instruments panel from the Schweizer 2-33 that was already in Flightgear. I did this to give me some idea of airspeed, to compensate for not having the wind in my

Re: [Flightgear-devel] today's 3d clouds commit

2005-05-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 17, 2005 01:54 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: Only 20% of strikes consist of one stroke (pulse along the same path) while the other 80% are two or more strokes. The mean stroke occurrence is five to six and the maximum has been measured at twenty-five. Strikes can last up to 1 second in

Re: [Flightgear-devel] today's 3d clouds commit

2005-05-15 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 15, 2005 10:21 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: PS: TODO for 1.0:     - perfect weather               (almost) done     - per-wheel gound reactions     YASim: done;  JSBSim: :-(   UIUC: bah!     - help system                   (a bit unsophisticated, but) done     - a/c switchable at runtime  

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Web site problems?

2005-05-12 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Just an information: Linux + Mozilla no problem Konqueror has no problem either. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Model: AC130-H

2005-05-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 11, 2005 09:47 am, Ben Morrison wrote: How long would you say it would take you to create this model, just so I have an idea.   It depends. How much data have you gathered? The more data you have, the less guess work you have to do, and the quicker you can get the model to look right.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Model: AC130-H

2005-05-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 11, 2005 01:35 pm, Ben Morrison wrote: When you refer to data, are you referring to the dimensions of the aircraft? Sort of, but dimensions of parts on the aircraft would be a better description. =) Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [RFC] swap chase views

2005-05-11 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
What kind of graphic cards do you have?! Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Model: AC130-H

2005-05-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 10, 2005 03:59 am, Erik Hofman wrote: To be clear, are you talking about a 3d model or about a flight dynamics model (which describes how the aircraft should handle)? In case of the latter, there is already a (beta) C130 configuration file for JSBSim available:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft Model: AC130-H

2005-05-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 10, 2005 01:48 pm, Harald JOHNSEN wrote: I'd like to work on a plane too in my spare time (model, animation or panel). Do we know of some aircraft from cvs that need some work or is it better to start a new one ? Harald. There are quite a few aircrafts in the cvs that need to be work

Re: [Flightgear-devel] new 3d clouds - strange movement

2005-05-06 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 6, 2005 10:06 am, Karsten Krispin wrote: If you bank your plane the clouds will move in the opposite direction as you turn to - They move  to the right or to the left depending whether you turn left or right. (And I'am not talking about the movements through the wind ;)). It is strange

Re: [Flightgear-devel] 3d city

2005-05-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 5, 2005 08:30 am, Giles Robertson wrote: The major problem is modelling the city anyway; if you are prepared to model NY accurately, then feel free - but be aware of the size of the task, and if you already have the data, tell us where it is :) Giles Robertson Too bad the Manhattan

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New 3d clouds

2005-05-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
The new 3D clouds are great! However, on the ground, I noticed the clouds seem a bit grainy. They are also darker than they should be. On closer observation, I see this: http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/fgfs-screen-006.jpg Does anybody know I am seeing these artifacts? Would my use of

Re: [Flightgear-devel] New 3d clouds

2005-05-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 5, 2005 06:32 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: They look a lot nicer in 24bit depth, there are some issues, but I assume this is still a work in progress so I'll wait a bit longer before I start complaining. :-) hehe. I see why you would think I am complaining. I missed the word why in one

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 3, 2005 02:39 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: WARNING: ssgSGIHeader::: Failed to open '/usr/local/FlightGear/share/FlightGear/Textures/Sky/cl_cumulus.rgb' for reading. So? What's with theses files? Are you sure you have these, at this weird path? But anyway ... Those files aren't there.

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 3, 2005 09:59 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: On Mon, 2 May 2005 23:17:39 -0400, Ampere wrote in message [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I have gone through the entire log. ..put it on a web server and post the url to it here. http://www.students.yorku.ca/~ampere/Xorg.0.log

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
..according to your log, it _is_ loaded between (II) LoadModule: glx and (II) Loading extension GLX , despite the first loading failure. Yes, I see that too. It is being loaded as a submodule. [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -S /usr/X11R6/lib/modules-dri-trunk/extensions/libGLcore.so

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-03 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Thanks for all the help guys. It seems the depth-rate setting was preventing FlightGear to run. After I have changed the depth from 24-bits to 16-bits, FlightGear runs fine. Unfortunately, enemy-territory slows down even more under 16-bits (not that it is playable anyway). As far as

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I have tried everything I can think off. I have reinstalled the plib1.8.4 and plib1.8.4-dev packages. I have recompiled simgear. I have even reinstalled all the graphics-related package, but I still get the same error messages when I was trying to compile FlightGear. In the attachment is a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 07:42 am, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..I don't see X.org installed in your list, you compiled from source and put it in the /usr/local tree? No. I put a source in my /etc/apt/sources.list and got the binary from http://www.nixnuts.net/files/. I didn't perform any compilation. Xorg

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 03:39 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Oh. freeglut and something that looks like opengl is already there, but the commend in brackets looks suspicious: xlibmesa-gl4.3.0.dfsg.1-1 Mesa 3D graphics library [XFree86] For XFree86? But you are running Xorg's X11R6.8.* now? Maybe you

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 04:41 pm, Melchior FRANZ wrote: This does indeed look ugly. I assume that no 3d apps are running HW accelerated? I don't really know. glxinfo says direct rendering: yes. Xorg.0.log also reports direct rendering is enabled. Enemy Territory also runs, although it is virtually

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 04:55 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..their Check.sh is meant for what??? Their own proprietary drivers, or also for open source X.org It meant to check what version of xserver you are running: XFree4.1.0, XFree4.2.0, XFree4.3.0 and Xorg6.8.0, so people can download the appropiate

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 04:31 pm, Melchior FRANZ wrote: My favorite strace could give you some hint in either case: A)   $ strace -fF -eopen glxinfo 21|tee /tmp/strace.log B)   $ strace -fF -eopen ./configure 21|tee /tmp/strace.log If you search through that log file, you'll see *where* and *what*

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
First, let me say thank you for all the help, guys. I have reinstalled all the graphics related packages again. For some reasons, it worked this time. I managed to compile FlightGear without problems. But now I am having another issue: FlightGear doesn't run and gives me the following

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 07:12 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: ..play with grep -B 20, 25 etc,  I find it hard to believe this: undefined  symbol: __glXLastContext ..is causing DRI to fall over. That command doesn't work, nor does grep -B=20.  So I have just attached the entire log. Sorry. Ampere

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-05-02 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On May 2, 2005 10:26 pm, Arnt Karlsen wrote: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log | grep -B 20 EE -- [9] -1 0 0xf000 - 0xefff (0x0) MX[B]O [10] -1 0 0xff8c - 0xff8d (0x2) MX[B](B) [11] -1 0 0xff8f - 0xff8f (0x1) MX[B](B) [12]

[Flightgear-devel] Error compiling FlightGear

2005-04-30 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I've just upgraded SimGear, but I was getting the following errors when I was trying to compile FlightGear today: localhost:/usr/local/src/FlightGear-0.9.8# make Making all in tests make[1]: Entering directory `/usr/local/src/FlightGear-0.9.8/tests' if gcc -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I.

[Flightgear-devel] Congratulation to Airbus for the successful first flight of the A380

2005-04-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I was up all morning watching it. =) http://www.airliners.net/open.file/825950/L/ http://www.airliners.net/open.file/825949/L/ Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Congratulation to Airbus for the successful first flight of the A380

2005-04-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
http://www.airbus.com/A380/Seeing/indexminisite.aspx Click on Discover, then Videos for the video of the take off. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Congratulation to Airbus for the successfulfirst flight of the A380

2005-04-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Another congratulation is in order -- successful landing. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

[Flightgear-devel] What happened to Flitetutor

2005-04-21 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I have been meaning to ask this for a while: Does anybody know what happened to the project? Whoever was working on it seems to have just diappeared. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: Was: Re: [Flightgear-devel] realistic scenery

2005-04-19 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On April 19, 2005 09:24 pm, Curtis L. Olson wrote: I can't afford a lot of scsi ... Have you tried getting these off E-Bay? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: property control question

2005-04-07 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On April 7, 2005 03:09 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Your standard Nasal key binding skeleton with one commented out line would do (literally) nothing to solve this problem. But maybe I just didn't understand your performance enhancement!? Are you suggesting that we replace all nasal key bindings

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: property control question

2005-04-06 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On April 6, 2005 05:18 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: Here is an improved version. It initializes gear with settimer, because otherwise using /controls/gear could lead to collisions with other parts that messed with it at startup. You can instead use a different property path. And then, we keep

Re: [Flightgear-devel] b-29 alpha

2005-04-05 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
I get the following outputs from FlightGear 0.9.8 on Debian Linux: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ /usr/local/FlightGear/bin/fgfs --fg-scenery=/usr/local/FlightGear/share/FlightGear/Scenery-0.9.8 --airport=LFBO --enable-real-weather-fetch --aircraft=b29 --lat=43.62176 --lon=1.377905 WARNING:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Instrument headaches

2005-02-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 22, 2005 04:20 pm, Paul Surgeon wrote: The way I see it is an instrument should be able to have it's own set of animation, input and sound config files as well as nasal scripts. Then only a single include has to be done in an aircraft config file to load the instrument at the right

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: Running probs

2005-02-22 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 22, 2005 06:09 am, Steve Hosgood wrote: I might suggest that those of us who've seen this sort of problem seem to have slow 3D rendering. Yes, I have slow rendering. When the ground is within view, the framerate never goes beyond 15. Ampere

[Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] Cool photo

2005-02-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 17, 2005 02:42 pm, Josh Babcock wrote: Found a link to this on fark.com. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=777174size=Lsok=photo_nr=prev_id= next_id= Josh This photo brings up one question again: curved taxiways. With aircrafts like the A380 and B747, you can't make a turn

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] Re: Okay ... who was it?

2005-02-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 18, 2005 08:02 am, Melchior FRANZ wrote: I'll find out anyway. I can't stand people borrowing things from me and returning them like *that*! http://members.aon.at/mfranz/exhibit_A.jpg m. Yes, that's a very nice touch. =) On February 18, 2005 12:45 pm, Christian Mayer wrote:

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Re: [Flightgear-users] Cool photo

2005-02-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 18, 2005 04:07 pm, Ampere K. Hardraade wrote: On February 17, 2005 02:42 pm, Josh Babcock wrote: Found a link to this on fark.com. http://www.airliners.net/open.file?id=777174size=Lsok=photo_nr=prev_i d= next_id= Josh This photo brings up one question again: curved

Re: [Flightgear-devel] FlightGear booth at Scale 3X

2005-02-18 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 18, 2005 04:11 am, Erik Hofman wrote: It really is a nice setup. Good work John. It also looks to me like a pleasant isle of joy in an otherwise boring event (am I right about that?). Erik lol... I have a similar thought about the event. Nice simulator, pictures and videos, by

Re: [Flightgear-devel] GLSL shaders for flightgear

2005-02-17 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 17, 2005 11:03 am, Dave Culp wrote: http://fgfs.narod.ru/fgfs-006.jpg Roman I had a really slow download from there so I'm mirroring it here: http://home.comcast.net/~davidculp2/3207.0.fgfs-006.jpg This should work better, at least over on this side of the Atlantic. Dave

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Speedbrakes / Spoilers

2005-02-10 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On February 10, 2005 08:27 am, James Turner wrote: BTW, there is no keybinding for reverse thrust : I'm going to test with some nasal code i found in one of the joystick files, but is there a free key I should use? Ctrl-R perhaps? For commercial airliners at least, it will make more sense to

[Flightgear-devel] Curiosity about antialiasing

2005-02-09 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
At the moment, is antialiasing applied to textures themselves? If so, what will happen if antialiasing is applied to the final render/output instead? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Flightgear to demo 747 at Scale 3x.

2005-02-07 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
Please take some pictures and videos of the Expo. Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Runway lighting

2005-01-27 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
How about not rendering ground textures at night? Has this been done yet? Ampere ___ Flightgear-devel mailing list Flightgear-devel@flightgear.org http://mail.flightgear.org/mailman/listinfo/flightgear-devel 2f585eeea02e2c79d7b1d8c4963bae2d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Rain and snow videos or photos

2005-01-24 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 24, 2005 06:16 pm, Roman Grigoriev wrote: Thanx Ampere! The main thing I got - blur on terrain and objects and blurry runway lights and also reflections from wet runway. Ok I try to implement it ;-) Thanx Speaking of blur, is there someway to apply antialiasing effect in the area

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Aircraft loading problem in 9.8

2005-01-24 Thread Ampere K. Hardraade
On January 24, 2005 03:45 am, Erik Hofman wrote: I expect you have replaced the accelerated drivers by a software only driver now. You should have installed the mesag3-dev package only. Erik On January 24, 2005 07:32 am, Curtis L. Olson wrote: As someone else mentioned, it sounds like you

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