Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-24 Thread syd adams
> I already took a look into several times, but if I would able to use the > Bravo-flightdirector as an example I wouldn't have said this. Syd's > flightdirector seems to dependant on other things ( not always other > simlated systems) so I wasn't able yet to use this. > > I guess a short explanati

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-24 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > Okay, that's a useful data point, I'll take a look at that > in the next few days (in between eating too much...). I > assume all interactions with the system are occurring > through the radios and autopilot *dialogs* (F12 and F11), > not the cockpit panel? The cockpitpanel isn't working

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-23 Thread James Turner
On 23 Dec 2009, at 11:42, Heiko Schulz wrote: > 737-300 (Using the autopilot.panel via F11)- in 19.1 the 737-300 was the > airliner with the best autopilot behavior recommended for ILS-approaches done > by ap. with my last built from 11/27/2009 the aircraft didn't responded > anymore on NAV1-H

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-23 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > > With the aircraft I test with, that's what I see - the > C172, the Seneca, the B1900 and, to a lesser degree, the > 777-200 (though it has some other problems). I guess the > problem may be, that all of those aircraft have quite well > developed, non-generic autopilots. Unfortunately th

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > >> Hey, >> >> could we all agree it's not my fault? :) >> > Only if you will correct the airport name: > http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/File:Tu154Innsbruck.png - pretty flat > for LOWI ! :-P > Admittedly I already wondered about it :) But i never thoug

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > > Hey, > > could we all agree it's not my fault? :) > > Erik > Only if you will correct the airport name: http://wiki.flightgear.org/index.php/File:Tu154Innsbruck.png - pretty flat for LOWI ! :-P Cheers HHS __ Do You Yahoo!? Sie sind Spa

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread S Andreason
Erik Hofman wrote: > Hey, > > could we all agree it's not my fault? :) > > Sorry Erik, You are only guilty of submitting the most number of files in that 36 hour period. :) I guessed wrong. Stewart -- This SF.Net ema

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Hofman
Hey, could we all agree it's not my fault? :) Erik -- This SF.Net email is sponsored by the Verizon Developer Community Take advantage of Verizon's best-in-class app development support A streamlined, 14 day to market p

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Peter Brown
James, this is what I've found too. Perhaps I don't understand the proper setup method, but I tend to clean it up as well. Sometimes I get a FL value, others times the point adds with a zero altitude. (or two dep. airport waypoints, one with each altitude) It may be a result of most times the

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:48 PM, James Turner wrote: > I thought I'd fixed that back at the start of October, soon after the > initial commit - Curt complained that h couldn't start a route 'in-air' so I > removed the need for departure/destination airports. > > Ah, I get it - you're specifying a

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 12:43 PM, James Turner wrote: > It is not my intention, or expectation, that many aircraft should need to > be changed at all. Aircraft that used the old gps or route-manager directly > will need changes (eg, the 787, and Concorde INS code, but that's > non-functional anyw

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread James Turner
On 21 Dec 2009, at 18:10, Peter Brown wrote: > One note on using route manager - in a 12/13 CVS - if includes the departure > airport as a waypoint automatically. If you "activate" it on the ground it > will move past it on the takeoff roll and proceed to the next waypoint. If > you don't ac

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread James Turner
On 21 Dec 2009, at 17:59, Heiko Schulz wrote: > It worked as long we didn't use the Route-manager. Like Curt already said, > with pending waypoints the values are overwritten, but only then. > That hasn't changed. Okay, so that's where the bug has come from, I need to fix the logic to only dri

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Peter Brown
One note on using route manager - in a 12/13 CVS - if includes the departure airport as a waypoint automatically. If you "activate" it on the ground it will move past it on the takeoff roll and proceed to the next waypoint. If you don't activate it until in the air it will circle back to the d

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, > Heiko Schulz wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There were major changes on the GPS and Route-Manager > since August (3 Months ago already!) > > > > So this has affected the the use of the autopilot as > well. > > All aircrafts using the generic Autopilot-panel are > affected, but not those with an ow

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi James, > > As far as I know, the old route-manager code behaved much > the same as my code does now - but it sounds as if you > disagree? Yep, and Torsten already decribed it well: >>The GPS code sets the property /autopilot/settings/true-heading-deg if >>/instrumentation/gps/config/drive-

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Pete Morgan
Heiko Schulz wrote: > Hi, > > There were major changes on the GPS and Route-Manager since August (3 Months > ago already!) > > So this has affected the the use of the autopilot as well. > All aircrafts using the generic Autopilot-panel are affected, but not those > with an own written flightdire

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Torsten Dreyer
> Hi, > Why is the autopilot broken? > > Specifically on my models like bluebird (or ufo if you prefer), I > started to implement a requested feature, but found it does not work > like it used to. > > The property: > /autopilot/settings/true-heading-deg > > acts like it is being set by something

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Curtis Olson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 11:17 AM, James Turner wrote: > For the record, my perception is that entering a value in the generic > autopilot dialog for 'true heading' has never worked, because the value > would **always** be over-written by the route manager. > This would only have been the case if

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread James Turner
On 21 Dec 2009, at 16:33, Heiko Schulz wrote: > There were major changes on the GPS and Route-Manager since August (3 Months > ago already!) > > So this has affected the the use of the autopilot as well. > All aircrafts using the generic Autopilot-panel are affected, but not those > with an o

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Erik Hofman
S Andreason wrote: > Hi, > Why is the autopilot broken? > > Specifically on my models like bluebird (or ufo if you prefer), I > started to implement a requested feature, but found it does not work > like it used to. > > The property: > /autopilot/settings/true-heading-deg > > acts like it is bein

Re: [Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread Heiko Schulz
Hi, There were major changes on the GPS and Route-Manager since August (3 Months ago already!) So this has affected the the use of the autopilot as well. All aircrafts using the generic Autopilot-panel are affected, but not those with an own written flightdirector like Syds Aircrafts (Citation

[Flightgear-devel] Autopilot broken, Eric maybe?

2009-12-21 Thread S Andreason
Hi, Why is the autopilot broken? Specifically on my models like bluebird (or ufo if you prefer), I started to implement a requested feature, but found it does not work like it used to. The property: /autopilot/settings/true-heading-deg acts like it is being set by something else that shouldn't