suspect
there are more options in the new version.
I am on a steep learning curves with Checkstyle and the conventions,
which I am planning to apply to alt.design before going any further.
That learning curve is probably another reason to cast an eye over the
config I create.
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checkstyle 3.x is out. Hmm. I'm downloading right now.
Can you upload what you have already?
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the base directory so everything is ok. I
have done some other changes locally that I cannot commit, yet, because
I'm blocked on an issue. So I can't commit my build.xml. Can you do it,
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Victor and fopdevs,
See below...
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
I'm pleased and surprised to hear that most of your design questions
have been answered. What scope of design are you talking about?
Ah, a good question. The scope of design on which I am currently working is:
1
Victor and fopdevs,
See below...
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
As to the necessary conditions for committer status, Shall we take that
as read, darling?* The question remains, If a another developer
happens along who 1) is persuaded that alt.design is worthwhile, and 2)
sees
!)
Well, I think you solved that problem :-)
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I thought it was generally
agreed some time ago
that my work on properties should be integrated, for
the simple reason
that it is smaller and faster.
Exactly! Now you're talking my language--smaller and
faster--i.e., something
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Which modules? I'm not sure what you mean. The modularity of area
processing? The Rec gives an utterly spurious view of this. It has
been misleading developers since the drafts were first published, and
giving the impression that things can be neatly
Peter B. West wrote:
If I have not answered your question, yell out. I am quite happy to
keep on at this until you at least understand my thinking on this, even
if you don't agree with it.
But I will be keeping on with it tomorrow, as it is very late here.
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The easiest way to proceed is to hack existing code.
Text-align=justify is broken in HEAD. Challenge: make
it work. Right aligning works, so this should be easy...
I bet quite a few people looked at it and decided there
are less challenging but equally
J.Pietschmann wrote:
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I recall, however, that it took me a year to gain that status, a year
during which I wrote a considerable amount of code which I maintained
in my ISP account. My crime was that I did not toe the Party line. I
hope those days are gone
...some of us happen to enjoy hacking code
and optimizing it...Don't take away our fun! ;)
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Glen,
I did notice your interest, and I appreciate it.
Peter
Glen Mazza wrote:
Peter--I've been *trying* to contribute to your
alt.design--I respond as best I can to your postings.
Many of us (but by no means all) are just not yet in
your order-of-magnitude of knowledge yet...
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that it attracts the
interest of other developers, or will the Party line, necessary as that
may be considered, dictate the such a development be resisted?
Peter
* John Cleese, in The Meaning of Life
Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
plus comments. I am happy to see new committers come
J.Pietschmann wrote:
Orphan/widow controls as well as keeps apply to footnotes
too.
That hadn't occurred to me.
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You know that page?
http://xml.apache.org/forrest/community/howto/cvs-ssh/howto-cvs-ssh.html
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Does anyone have any idea what is going on here?
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Comments below.
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Such a transaction has a minimum and a maximum
impact. Assuming that we
must place the first line of the footnote on the
same page,
The line-area generator would pass this information
up for the decision
the transaction. I'll have to give some more thought to the
way keep strength could be handled in such a scenario.
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mappings either? (Not that I
was clear how those would work with the current code
anyway...)
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Shouldn't we acknowledge this support on the web site?
Peter
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Log:
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I'd like to hear other opinions.
On 04.06.2003 01:15:03 Peter B. West wrote:
Shouldn't we acknowledge this support on the web site?
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Fopdevs,
Further to this topic.
Peter B. West wrote:
Yes, and this whole post was a bit of a disaster. The point I had
fuzzily in mind was that the resolution of marker properties can only
occur as the area tree (of the fo:flow) is being constructed. Only then
does current page have any
get some more participation.
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J.Pietschmann wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Basically, because there are three grammars at work.
...
the bizarre syntax requirements of the Rec
Hehe!
Actually you know beforehand what kind of grammar you get,
there is *no* need to have a unified parser. I was always
amazed by the hoops
it isolated as well. Even if this effort is
unsuccessful for some reason, or the redesign layout is completed before
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Victor,
Thanks. That will do very nicely.
Peter
Victor Mote wrote:
I changed the dev/index.html page to explain the 3 lines of development. I
am not sure I explained the Alt Design properly, so Peter, please correct it
if necessary.
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My vote is unchanged:
#24
#15
#16
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I have extended the notes on alt.design integration in the wiki at
http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?FOPAltDesignIntegration
Comments and questions welcome.
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Fopdevs,
Have at last started work on the Wiki page, named above. It's far from
complete yet.
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a revised version.
Oooh. I like that a lot. Definitely my favorite. Thanks for
submitting that.
Me too!
Well, I like the idea of inkstand and feather also. What about combining
it with another logo?
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My favourites
#24
#15
#16
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the other. However, under our model, it has to be done on the fly. More on
this in my response to Keiron to follow.
Peter, if you are addressing text-transform as part of your property
refinement work, please do let me know.
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I'll make and commit the changes that Jeff recommended. We can then use
the bot output or out own forrest run to generate the site. It still
has to be committed and the leve site updated by hand, as I understand
things.
Peter
Victor Mote wrote:
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I just took
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somewhere else for them to
live.
Peter
Jeff Turner wrote:
I've just updated FOP and generated docs locally, and it all worked. I
didn't even get the RuntimeException. Weird..
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This will have to wait until Joerg gets back from London.
Peter
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Fopdevs,
I'm planning to tag the tree and create the alt.design integration
branch a little later today. If anyone is preparing to commit and wants
me to hold off, please let me know in the next 30 minutes.
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Tagging the tree as Alt-Design_integration_base now.
Peter B. West wrote:
Fopdevs,
I'm planning to tag the tree and create the alt.design integration
branch a little later today. If anyone is preparing to commit and wants
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Done
Peter B. West wrote:
Tagging the tree as Alt-Design_integration_base now.
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in .cvsignore in a
CVS repository. This is a bit annoying because Eclipse automatically adds
tasks to add the files (fop.jar etc.) under build to CVS.
If you don't need them, I'd like to delete the build directory on
cvs.apache.org.
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This was run against a clean checkout with a recent cvs update. When I
run against my previous tree, also just cvs updated, the forrest build
proceeds. I'll try to find out why.
Peter
Peter B. West wrote:
Fopdevs,
Has anyone else tried to run forrest against a new HEAD checkout? When
I
, Peter B. West wrote:
This was run against a clean checkout with a recent cvs update. When I
run against my previous tree, also just cvs updated, the forrest build
proceeds. I'll try to find out why.
At:
http://forrestbot.cocoondev.org/logs/work.xml-fop.log
After running.html, it seems
Today, it's working. Who knows? Have had a reboot since.
Peter
Jeff Turner wrote:
On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 10:31:23PM +1000, Peter B. West wrote:
I've just updated FOP and generated docs locally, and it all worked. I
didn't even get the RuntimeException. Weird..
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soon to tag the tree and create an alt integration branch.
If this change is to go ahead, I will wait until it is in place.
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the
area tree will be a thorny enough issue that it would be sensible to
conduct such experiments away from other development.
Opinions?
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/password, I'll send offlist.
Yes please. I didn't understand this part. Currently I am trying to
sort out some documentation problems.
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also
interested in how the inline-area copes with having to pass line-areas
back up to a parent. I am thinking of the interpretation we developed
on the basis of the clarification of the behaviour of various inline FOs.
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Lord
Joerg,
Is there an infrastructure@ archive?
Peter
J.Pietschmann wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Looks like a timing problem. I may have been trying to hit the server
at a bad time. Working now, failed earlier.
On infrastructure@ it was mentioned this was a configuration problem
on icarus
, fo:bidi-override, etc.
Peter
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Has anyone else expereinced any difficulties with ssh access to CVS? I
have been having intermittent problems for some days now, and often
cannot access CVS at all.
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Looks like a timing problem. I may have been trying to hit the server
at a bad time. Working now, failed earlier.
Peter
Peter B. West wrote:
Fopdevs,
Has anyone else expereinced any difficulties with ssh access to CVS? I
have been having intermittent problems for some days now, and often
.
Block B is, according to my interpretation of pre-order
before block A, therefore retrieving class I with
first-starting-within-page would get marker 2. Also,
retrieving with either last-starting-within-page or
last-ending-within-page should return marker m1.
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the JavaScript stuff. Just what's going though my head. I hope it
helps anyway. Probably best if you asked on Forrest mailing list, too.
Is this what you're looking for? http://sourceforge.net/projects/javasrc/
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I need to include some form of redundant lining to the htmlized
code files? Can I otherwise express such files (with javascript: links)
in XML? Does anyone know how I can get JavaSRc that Nicola mentioned.
I would like to clean up the documentation as much as possible.
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easily envisage a case where page n and page n+1 retrieve the same
marker; page n from the containing-page, and page n+1 from the previous
page.
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the layout implementation back
through the FO tree/layout interface to the FO tree builder is defined.
I will call it LayoutProcessor unless there is a better idea.
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that areas do not have a position in the hierarchy if they
are within pages that follow the containing page. In my reading, the
implication is that the containing page is an absolute point of
reference - the page in which the fo:retrieve-marker accurs.
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with
that static content).
Yes. It occurs on every page, but for every page the replacement
fo:marker has to be recalculated. The process is particular to each
fo:retrieve-marker on each page.
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with top of 0cm will precede
the first on the page, it follows the first in the area tree. This
interpretation would help with the case in which the markers are defined
in both absolutely positioned and normal areas.
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area in the hierarchy is considered preferential to, or better than, any
area below it in the hierarchy.
[2] If there is no such area, then the last qualifying area in the containing page is
better than any other area.
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of some complication. The easy solution is to declare
that, if you blew it with the retrieve-position properties, all bets are
off, and we go into emergency mode.
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, and reference-level-out-of-line areas
returned by the children/quote
It seesm to me that these changes create normal block areas with a
lineage with size greater than one.
What do you think?
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of the
pretentious math excised, and replaced with plain language.
Arved,
Hear, hear. Arved, have you told the editors this directly? If not,
please do.
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?
Good thought!
As long as we are still able to recover complete historical binary
distributions. If a problem arises over a past distribution, we are far
better off if we can refer to the actual distribution, even if that is
no longer available for general distribution.
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propose the following plan:
Make another RC on february 17th and do the final 0.20.5 release
on february the 28th (no delay except for very valid reasons)
Comments?
+1
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that
was most awkward is precised below.
Peter B. West wrote:
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Subject: Percentages + absolute lengths
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 02:21:32 +1000
From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please clarify the editors' expectation
FYI
Peter
Original Message
Subject: Percentages + absolute lengths
Date: Fri, 07 Feb 2003 02:21:32 +1000
From: Peter B. West [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Please clarify the editors' expectation for the resolution of
an expression like 25% + 3pt an FO
Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
Should Apache, as a non-government, non-profit organization, apply for
a copy of RenderX Academic to install on, say, cvs.apache.org?
Hmmm, what for?
For comparison. Or is RenderX available to any of us by some other means?
Peter
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Fopdevs,
I have been lost in the wilds of DOM for a little while now, trying to
find some pleasant common DOM-ish way to make my alt-properties docs
work in IE6 as well as Netscape 7/Mozilla 1.2.1.
I am in the process of updating now, and would appreciate some feedback
#PropertyConstsClass'
)This class/a, and the singleton object which is a
href=javascript:window.top.displayCode(
'PropertyConsts.html#pconsts' )generated by the static
initializer/a, is essentially a repository of
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reserve a directory on the web site for storing diagrams which
find their way into the Wiki?
Peter
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now I hope I have a chance to return to our great dude.
I, likewise, have been on the margin since New Year. I blame the woman
I met a the NY'sE party I attended, often. And I have moved to a new flat.
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? If it had a compatible licensing scheme, it would sure
seem to make sense to use as much of the TeX work as possible.
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Victor Mote wrote:
Peter B. West wrote:
These are interesting and important issues. I had no notion of the HZ
algorithm, but I was dimly aware from my reading as a teenager of the
rivers problem, and acutely conscious of its distracting effect from
my reading. In my thinking about layout, I
Oops.
Peter
Rhett Aultman wrote:
I'd meant for him to contact me privately so I could mail him some photocopies and save him the trouble of trying to find copies of the book.
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properties from
any position will help us to explore what to do next.
I think this is similar to what I refer to as threading the tree to
establish which areas are contiguous in the output, both for keeps and
space specifiers resolution.
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Layout sometimes occurs in an environment of known available BPDimension
and IPDimension, sometimes with only one dimension, and sometimes
a userconfig file.
Clay,
It's an interesting idea. It could be thought of as another User Agent
(or User Agency) function.
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the processor was unable easily to distinguish, not
as some asynchronous event. While I can see the possibility of
learning about the scoring of layout possibilities from such
interactive input, I can't see that sets of rendering decisons need to
persist.
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for someone cutting the scripts coming out of the linotypes and pasting
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Jeremias Maerki wrote:
Hi Peter
On 25.01.2003 03:30:19 Peter B. West wrote:
snip/
How about using a popup window instead of the frames approach?
(Disclaimer: Don't know a lot about HTML/JavaScript and such)
Jeremias,
That was my first attempt. I used th fork/ tag, well supported
a Not Found when I try to
access the fop/design/alt.design/properties/index.html. Does anyone
have any idea what might be going on?
Peter
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for this and I think this
could help focus our limited resources.
Peter, would you add a Wiki page describing what needs to be done for
the integration and what others could help you with?
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Jeremias Maerki wrote:
On 23.01.2003 12:34:33 Peter B. West wrote:
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There are a couple of issues in the design of the properties code that
will require decisions from the editors. I will detail these on the
Wiki, and formulate questions for the editors in hopes of a quick reply.
I
for Peter and me.
Common guys! I'd like to have some participation on this matter from all
the committers since this an important thing.
On 21.01.2003 13:38:47 Oleg Tkachenko wrote:
Ok, we've got 3 desperated volunteers. Should we vote?
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