Is that a 48*6* or a 48*7*??? You MUST HAVE a floating point emulator if
you don't have a '487
(also known as a '486 overdrive), or no boot. I'm at work, so I don't
know if we still ship
the emulator(s), but you need it.
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Gray, David W [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Is that a 48*6* or a 48*7*??? You MUST HAVE a floating point emulator if
you don't have a '487
(also known as a '486 overdrive), or no boot. I'm at work, so I don't
know if we still ship
the emulator(s), but you need it.
Good point. He said it's a 486sx
Gray, David W [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Is that a 48*6* or a 48*7*??? You MUST HAVE a floating point
emulator if you don't have a '487 (also known as a '486 overdrive),
or no boot.
The 487 was not a 486 overdrive, but an add-on FP unit for the 486SX
(which shipped with the built-in FP unit
Gray, David W wrote:
Is that a 48*6* or a 48*7*??? You MUST HAVE a floating point emulator if
you don't have a '487
(also known as a '486 overdrive), or no boot. I'm at work, so I don't
know if we still ship
the emulator(s), but you need it.
That might be it. How to add FPU emu support to the
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gray, David W wrote:
Is that a 48*6* or a 48*7*??? You MUST HAVE a floating point emulator if
you don't have a '487
(also known as a '486 overdrive), or no boot. I'm at work, so I don't
know if we still ship
the emulator(s), but you need it.
That might be it. How to
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Darren Pilgrim wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gray, David W wrote:
Is that a 48*6* or a 48*7*??? You MUST HAVE a floating point emulator if
you don't have a '487
(also known as a '486 overdrive), or no boot. I'm at work, so I don't
know if we still ship
the
on 08.04.2007 1:53 Uhr Dag-Erling Smørgrav said the following:
spellberg_robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
do you need kbdmux in the console ?
Only if you intend to use USB keyboards.
ADAPTIVE_GIANT ? PREEMPTION ? INET ? UFS_ACL ? SCSI_DELAY ?
KBD_INSTALL_CDEV ?
I don't think you can
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
OK now I've tried everything. Most minimal kernel I could get without
compilation error. No optimizations. And it still reboots the system!
Something more: now I've tried to pull out the floppy cables, and that
4slot-isa expantion card stuff, played around with all
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Danny Pansters wrote:
CPUs, SCSIs removed, faith removed.
Currently I don't have anything useful on the old board, such as a net card,
but I'm planning to use it as a router, and I should be able to do VPN stuff.
So I've left gif and tunnel and ppp. When I do have
This is so goddamn. I've disabled almost everything in the kernel and the 486
still wont boot!
OK, forget about the router, just get FreeBSD running on it! Any suggestions?
ident BAREv6
machine i386
cpu I486_CPU
#cpuI586_CPU
#cpuI686_CPU
# To
i've been following this because i have a compaq sitting on a closet shelf.
mine has 40 megs of ram, so hope springs eternal
[ just to prove i can really do it ].
i've let people more expert than me answer first,
but i've played around with kernel tweaking and had some success,
so i'll
spellberg_robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
do you need kbdmux in the console ?
Only if you intend to use USB keyboards.
ADAPTIVE_GIANT ? PREEMPTION ? INET ? UFS_ACL ? SCSI_DELAY ?
KBD_INSTALL_CDEV ?
I don't think you can build a kernel without INET, actually.
ADAPTIVE_GIANT and
thanks for the info, des.
[ i don't have any usb keyboards, so that explains that ignorance.
if the kernel didn't build, i would add things back until it did.
nonetheless, thanks.
]
rob
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
spellberg_robert [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
do you need kbdmux in the
ok - first, you have what des said and what i said back.
that covers most of this [ must've crossed in the mail ].
all i'm doing is removing anything i don't recognize
[ i am a minimalist at heart ],
but my needs aren't necessarily the same as yours.
as for 4.3 compatibility, i don't
spellberg_robert wrote:
ok - first, you have what des said and what i said back.
that covers most of this [ must've crossed in the mail ].
yeah i received his mail later
all i'm doing is removing anything i don't recognize
[ i am a minimalist at heart ],
but my needs aren't necessarily
OK now I've tried everything. Most minimal kernel I could get without
compilation error. No optimizations. And it still reboots the system! Something
more: now I've tried to pull out the floppy cables, and that 4slot-isa expantion
card stuff, played around with all jumpers (IRQ, EPC
Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well for one you should probably not try to boot an i686 kernel on a 486
It's not an i686 kernel. It's an i486 kernel with code to recognize
and support i586 and i686 CPUs.
DES
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On Friday 06 April 2007 01:23:00 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oliver Fromme wrote:
I assume that you don't have enough RAM. If I remember
correctly, your 486 machine only has 8 MB of RAM, which
is not enough to load a GENERIC kernel nowadays. You
will have to compile a smaller kernel by
On Friday 06 April 2007 17:34:04 you wrote:
Danny Pansters wrote:
Might still be too little (or defect!) RAM. One other idea might be to
add isa (you have pci and eisa), an old (isa-based?) mobo may need some
crufty plug-n-pray stuff -- possibly even to get to the HD controller,
I'm not
Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Dag-Erling Smørgrav wrote:
Darren Pilgrim [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well for one you should probably not try to boot an i686 kernel
on a 486
It's not an i686 kernel. It's an i486 kernel with code to
recognize and support i586 and i686
Returning topic. Archives are here:
http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-chat/2007-January/subject.html
I've just tested dangerously dedicated mode, and it worked!
Next stop: it can't load the kernel (only on the 486).
--- PART OF OUTPUT:
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just tested dangerously dedicated mode, and it worked!
Next stop: it can't load the kernel (only on the 486).
--- PART OF OUTPUT:
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
/boot/kernel/kernel text=0x51a2e4
readin failed
elf32_loadimage: read failed
Oliver Fromme wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I've just tested dangerously dedicated mode, and it worked!
Next stop: it can't load the kernel (only on the 486).
--- PART OF OUTPUT:
Loading /boot/defaults/loader.conf
/boot/kernel/kernel text=0x51a2e4
readin failed
Oliver Fromme wrote:
I assume that you don't have enough RAM. If I remember
correctly, your 486 machine only has 8 MB of RAM, which
is not enough to load a GENERIC kernel nowadays. You
will have to compile a smaller kernel by removing all
things that you don't need.
Making progress. With my
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
With my custom kernel, the system makes it to the beastie menu. After
selecting an option, the screen clears (no kernel text displayed),
after which the 486 is restarted. Works fine on modern computer
though. What now? [ATTACHMENT] is my kernel config. Something that
John Baldwin wrote:
Did you install boot0? (The MBR boot block that will list the partitions?)
If so, you need to use boot0cfg to turn off 'packet' mode to instruct boot0
to not use LBA. I think I mentioned this earlier in the thread. You can do
this by booting the disk up in the newer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adrian Wontroba wrote:
The point has been made before in this thread, but you need to change
the way the NEW machine accesses the drive FROM LBA to CHS BEFORE you
install.
Your new system supports LBA. The old one
On Sunday 28 January 2007 21:35, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adrian Wontroba wrote:
The point has been made before in this thread, but you need to change
the way the NEW machine accesses the drive FROM LBA to CHS BEFORE you
install.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Adrian Wontroba wrote:
The point has been made before in this thread, but you need to change
the way the NEW machine accesses the drive FROM LBA to CHS BEFORE you
install.
Your new system supports LBA. The old one doesn't, and its view of the
disk is very different.
Sten Daniel Sørsdal wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
5.1-RELEASE tested, yielded the same result: Missing operating system.
The installation can boot on a new machine, but can not boot on the 486.
Seems like the source of the error is the capabilitiy of the mainboard.
I've given up. FreeBSD will
Kevin Kinsey wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
8MB RAM
That's likely the issue, although I don't remember if you've mentioned
exactly when it fails. The installer attempts to create a memory disk
that's a good bit larger than 8MB; IIRC, with current FreeBSD versions
you can't even install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Kevin Kinsey wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
8MB RAM
That's likely the issue, although I don't remember if you've mentioned
exactly when it fails. The installer attempts to create a memory disk
that's a good bit larger than 8MB; IIRC, with current FreeBSD versions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Jason Hensler wrote:
It seems to be that the motherboard probably does not support booting
from cd as was common with older systems. A side note, I got the same
error on a p4 board yesterday because there was not boot device (bad
mbr). I would try a boot floppy to get
Ummm, nobody has mentioned it, but a more modren machine vs. a really
old bios -
the No operating system message is a classic sign of a geometry
mismatch - the
new BIOS is probably mapping the drive differently (since it undoubtedly
can handle
multi-gig drives vs 500M for the old BIOS.)
I have
David King wrote:
Can you see the hard drive if you boot from a floppy?
Is the hard drive in the boot path in the BIOS? Are you using a 40-pin
cable for an EIDE drive? It sounds like you can't see the drive at all
Can't boot FreeBSD from a floppy. That is, it boots, but gives an error.
It seems to be that the motherboard probably does not support booting
from cd as was common with older systems. A side note, I got the same
error on a p4 board yesterday because there was not boot device (bad
mbr). I would try a boot floppy to get the system to access the cd-rom
or install
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The HDD is 200MB, not 500MB.
That's rather small. Probably too small for a standard
installation, but with a little manual tuning you should
certainly be able to install FreeBSD on it. I've
installed FreeBSD on 32 MB flash cards, and with a little
more effort you can
On Fri, Jan 19, 2007 at 09:30:23PM +0100 I heard the voice of
Oliver Fromme, and lo! it spake thus:
Personally I prefer to use a FreeBSD machine as a router, because I
dislike black boxes.
I second and carry the motion. Show me a consumer-grade black-box
router that I can run tcpdump on,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you install FreeBSD on a 486 machine?
Yes, certainly. You shouldn't expect it to be lightning
fast, though, of course. But it will be perfectly fine
for a number of uses. For example, I used to have a 486
as my printer spooler, TFTP boot server and BBS (with an
On 17 Jan 2007 at 23:21, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you install FreeBSD on a 486 machine?
Yes, I can. It's at my mother's house. She uses it on a dial up
connection for email.
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Can you install FreeBSD on a 486 machine?
Sure. I use one to brew my beer.
http://www.lemis.com/grog/brewing/temperature-control.html
Greg
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