Please test latest /bin/sh

1999-01-16 Thread Martin Cracauer
There had been some trouble with fixing a pipeline bug in /bin/sh. The last version appears to work, although it was developed on observation, not understanding, if you know what I mean ;-) If you have complicated shell scripts, would you please test -current's /bin/sh (with eval.c v. 1.25) on

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1999-01-16 Thread James Bailie
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Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Peter Wemm
Luoqi Chen wrote: Since sometime last month, rc5des failed to start from my rc.local. I did a little investigation and it turned out that rc5des was started but later terminated by a SIGHUP. During its brief lifetime, /dev/console was its control terminal. Does anyone know what was going on?

Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Bruce Evans
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Peter Wemm wrote: Luoqi Chen wrote: Since sometime last month, rc5des failed to start from my rc.local. I did a little investigation and it turned out that rc5des was started but later terminated by a SIGHUP. During its brief lifetime, /dev/console was its control

How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4

1999-01-16 Thread Vadim Chekan
Hello everyone! I'm trying to update from 3.3-R to 4.0-current but without success. cc every time died on the same place. I upgraded via sources to 3.3-stable without any problem. When I try again cc died with message "Bad system call" I wrote in /etc/makefile.conf CC=/usr/local/bin/gcc295

gdb slain in drive-by commit, film at 11

1999-01-16 Thread Bill Paul
Gdb has stopped working recently in -current. In a snapshot from October 24th, it's fine. In a snapshot from November 15th (before the great gcc switchover), it's hosed. I've been told it's hosed in today's -current as well. Here are the symptoms: tuba# uname -sr FreeBSD 4.0-19991115-CURRENT

FreeBSD version of DRM?

1999-01-16 Thread Stephen Hocking
Now that a working version of the Direct Rendering Manager (along with an open source version of glide 3) has been released for Linux on a decent consumer level card, is anyone interested in porting it over to FreeBSD? It could well displace my TNT2U. Stephen To Unsubscribe: send

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4

1999-01-16 Thread Maxim Sobolev
Vadim Chekan wrote: Hello everyone! I'm trying to update from 3.3-R to 4.0-current but without success. cc every time died on the same place. I upgraded via sources to 3.3-stable without any problem. When I try again cc died with message "Bad system call" I wrote in /etc/makefile.conf

Re: FreeBSD version of DRM?

1999-01-16 Thread Daryll Strauss
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 05:16:55PM +, Stephen Hocking wrote: Now that a working version of the Direct Rendering Manager (along with an open source version of glide 3) has been released for Linux on a decent consumer level card, is anyone interested in porting it over to FreeBSD? It could

Re: make world fails

1999-01-16 Thread Maxim Kolinko
sorry i'm don't put error message i'm build and install -CURRENT kernel , and trying make world cc -O -pipe -DFREEBSD_NATIVE -DIN_GCC -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -DDEFAULT_TARGET_VERSION=\"2.95.2\" -DDEFAULT_TARGET_MACHINE=\"i386-unknown-freebsd\" -I/usr/obj/usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/cc/cc1plus/../cc_tools

Re: FreeBSD version of DRM?

1999-01-16 Thread Roger Hardiman
Hi Daryll, is anyone interested in porting it over to FreeBSD? I'm interested in porting Glide to FreeBSD. I've got a Voodoo 3 2000. Roger -- Roger Hardiman| Telepresence Research Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] | DMEM, University of Strathclyde tel: 0141 548 2897| Glasgow, Scotland, G1

Re: FreeBSD version of DRM?

1999-01-16 Thread David W. Chapman Jr.
I have no programming skills, but I will test it when testers are needed. - Original Message - From: Roger Hardiman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 1999 12:52 PM Subject: Re: FreeBSD version of DRM? Hi

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911172341110.397-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : Or perhaps restricting -U to root only? Since -e w/out -U isn't harmful, : no? -e w/o -U is still harmful. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of

Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 23:01:10 +0800, Peter Wemm [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: root cron 2180 - -none- root cron 2181 - -none- root cron 2182 - -none- root adjkerntz 400 -

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4 - Clarification please!

1999-01-16 Thread Jag
Hi! I'm in almost the same situation as mr Chekan. I have a 3.3-STABLE (SMP) system and I want to move to CURRENT. I have modified my cvs-scripts and updated the sources a few times the last couple of weeks. The problem is when I try to do buildworld. It crashes with things like: cc -static -O

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4 - Clarification please!

1999-01-16 Thread Alexander Langer
Thus spake Jag ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): I'm in almost the same situation as mr Chekan. I have a 3.3-STABLE (SMP) system and I want to move to CURRENT. I have modified my cvs-scripts and updated the sources a few times the last couple of weeks. The problem is when I try to do buildworld. It

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4 - Clarification please!

1999-01-16 Thread Darryl Okahata
Jag [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alexander Langer wrote: Yes. Probably you've not built/booted a -current kernel before you build wo rld. Do you mean that I should build a new kernel *before* I do buildworld? Is that possible? Yes and yes. Some clarification would be great. I've

Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Luoqi Chen
/etc/rc's shell is a controlling process with control terminal /etc/console, so /dev/console is supposed to be revoked when /etc/rc's shell exits. Control terminal is for job control, and we don't need job control during /etc/rc's execution, so why don't we change init not to acquire a

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4 - Clarification please!

1999-01-16 Thread mremski
Yes, there was a change in the signal handling that requires the kernel for 4.0 to be built and booted prior to building userland for 4.0. (This is not from experience, this is from watching the current mailing list for the past year). I believe the -current mailing list had lots of traffic on

Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
: : /etc/rc's shell is a controlling process with control terminal /etc/console, : so /dev/console is supposed to be revoked when /etc/rc's shell exits. : :Control terminal is for job control, and we don't need job control during :/etc/rc's execution, so why don't we change init not to acquire

arplookup 127.0.0.1 failed: could not allocate llinfo

1999-01-16 Thread Luoqi Chen
With the latest current, whenever I start amd, I would see a lot of log messages repeating: arplookup 127.0.0.1 failed: could not allocate llinfo arpresolve: can't allocate llinfo for 127.0.0.1rt If I ifconfig my ether interface down, as expected, the messages would stop. It's

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
: :In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911172341110.397-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: :: Or perhaps restricting -U to root only? Since -e w/out -U isn't harmful, :: no? : :-e w/o -U is still harmful. : :Warner I am all for removing -e, but I don't really like the idea of making it optional

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Matthew Dillon writes: : I am all for removing -e, but I don't really like the idea of making : it optional nor do I like the idea of trying to maintain the capability : for the user's own processes - that simply makes the code even more : complex then

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Sean Eric Fagan
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write: I am all for removing -e, but I don't really like the idea of making it optional nor do I like the idea of trying to maintain the capability for the user's own processes - that simply makes the code even more complex then it already is.

cpu name

1999-01-16 Thread Byung Yang
supped made world a min ago: check out the CPU: name I am using AMD K6-2 333Mhz Byung --- Copyright (c) 1992-1999 The FreeBSD Project. Copyright (c) 1982, 1986, 1989, 1991, 1993 The Regents of the University of California. All

Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
: : no control terminal == no signals == no ^C'ing hung programs during : startup (for example, when you need to boot a machine without a working : network and sendmail and other programs stop the boot sequence in its : tracks trying to do DNS lookups). : :

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Peter Wemm
Sean Eric Fagan wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] m you write: I am all for removing -e, but I don't really like the idea of making it optional nor do I like the idea of trying to maintain the capability for the user's own processes - that simply makes the code even more

Re: init runs with console as control terminal?

1999-01-16 Thread Garrett Wollman
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999 22:59:28 -0500 (EST), Luoqi Chen [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Hmm, good point. So I still need to find a way to start up rc5des, it seems that rc5des installs a SIGHUP handler and therefore nohup is useless. Bug the authors to fix it? daemon(3) is provided for a reason!

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4 - Clarification please!

1999-01-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
People, 1) Search -current archives if you are new to the list. 2) See that /usr/src/UPDATING file? READ IT! HandbookFreeBSD diary are *NOT* the kind of resource you resort to if you want to run -current. Things in -current have not been documented because they are happening here and now. And

Re: man reads /etc/rc.conf?

1999-01-16 Thread William R. Somsky
On Wed, Nov 10, 1999 at 01:47:46PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /usr/bin/apropos contains: ---snip--- # If possible check global system configuration file for additional # man locales installed if [ -r /etc/defaults/rc.conf ] ; then . /etc/defaults/rc.conf elif [ -r

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Thu, 18 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911172341110.397-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : Or perhaps restricting -U to root only? Since -e w/out -U isn't harmful, : no? -e w/o -U is still harmful. ps -e w/out -U only shows variables for processes owned by

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Thu, Nov 18, 1999 at 05:04:20PM -0800, Matthew Dillon wrote: I am all for removing -e, but I don't really like the idea of making it optional nor do I like the idea of trying to maintain the capability for the user's own processes - that simply makes the code even more

Re: cpu name

1999-01-16 Thread Jeroen Ruigrok/Asmodai
-On [19991119 04:02], Byung Yang ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: supped made world a min ago: check out the CPU: name I am using AMD K6-2 333Mhz --- CPU: \^E (334.40-MHz 586-class CPU) Origin = "AuthenticAMD" Id = 0x580 Stepping = 0

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911182311590.338-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : ps -e w/out -U only shows variables for processes owned by that user, no? ps -ea. Warner To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with "unsubscribe freebsd-current" in the body of the message

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Andreas Klemm writes: : By simply removing it (without thinking about alternatives) I : think FreeBSD looses some points ... I thought we were the team : that doesn't do radical changes without a good reason ;-) That's why I'm not in favor of removing it. That's far

Current hangs when dump is run?

1999-01-16 Thread Taavi Talvik
Current seems to hangs, when amanda tries to run dump. This appeared approximately 2 weeks ago, and is present in yesterdays current also. #0 0xc013daa4 in boot () (kgdb) bt #0 0xc013daa4 in boot () #1 0xc013de41 in panic () #2 0xc011d739 in db_panic () #3 0xc011d6d9 in db_command () #4

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911182311590.338-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : ps -e w/out -U only shows variables for processes owned by that user, no? ps -ea. Then perhaps -a and -U should be disabled? *grin* - alex To Unsubscribe: send

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911182331120.338-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : Then perhaps -a and -U should be disabled? *grin* No. -e, -a, -U are all use for the sysadmin. They can provide sensitive information, so should have sensible access policies placed upon their use. While the

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Alex Zepeda
On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Warner Losh wrote: In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911182331120.338-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : Then perhaps -a and -U should be disabled? *grin* No. -e, -a, -U are all use for the sysadmin. They can provide sensitive information, so should have sensible access

Re: man reads /etc/rc.conf?

1999-01-16 Thread Alexander Leidinger
On 18 Nov, William R. Somsky wrote: Hmm... aside from whether or not apropos should be reading in rc.conf, isn't this code fragment doing the wrong thing in regards to the way we have /etc/defaults/rc.conf and /etc/rc.conf setup nowadays? No, look at the last lines of /etc/defaults/rc.conf

Re: PATCH for testing

1999-01-16 Thread Warner Losh
In message Pine.BSF.4.10.9911182338520.338-10@localhost Alex Zepeda writes: : Erk. That came out wrong. I meant removal for non root or : perhaps non gid wheel? or somesuch. Actually, you wanna do access control like procfs does (will do?) for its cmdline file. Warner To Unsubscribe:

Re: Current hangs when dump is run?

1999-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
If you're using the ata driver, please remove the ad_sleep() call at the bottom of the adopen() in ata-disk.c and see if that helps you. Poul-Henning In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Taavi Talvi k writes: Current seems to hangs, when amanda tries to run dump. This appeared approximately 2 weeks

Re: man reads /etc/rc.conf?

1999-01-16 Thread William R. Somsky
On Fri, Nov 19, 1999 at 08:41:30AM +0100, Alexander Leidinger wrote: On 18 Nov, William R. Somsky wrote: Hmm... aside from whether or not apropos should be reading in rc.conf, isn't this code fragment doing the wrong thing in regards to the way we have /etc/defaults/rc.conf and

Re: How to upgrade from 3.3 to 4

1999-01-16 Thread Vadim Chekan
Vadim Chekan wrote: Hello everyone! I'm trying to update from 3.3-R to 4.0-current but without success. Thanks to all! Now I know what to do. 4.0 kernel is installed and is bootable. I need to chouse few hours to build world. Vadim Chekan. To Unsubscribe: send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

mounting double-ended SCSI disks

1999-01-16 Thread Satoshi Asami
Hi, In our project, we're trying to connect two PCs to both ends of a SCSI chain. I've got it somewhat working, but have a couple of questions re. mounting the filesystems. If I mount the filesystem from one machine (A) as read-write, then the other one (B) can't mount it read-write because

Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks

1999-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it. Is it a good idea to allow read-only mounts of a dirty filesystem anyway? (The filesystem

Re: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE

1999-01-16 Thread Robert Nordier
Igor Roshchin wrote: I've encountered this problems while installing 3.0-RELEASE on a PII-350 with ASUS P2B-LS motherboard (i.e. there is Adaptec U2W adapter and Intel EtherExpress 100/10 on board) All HDDs are UW SCSI. 2. I didn't find any documentation in the man pages which describes

Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks

1999-01-16 Thread Satoshi Asami
* However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it * read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto * the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it. Is * it a good idea to allow read-only mounts of a dirty filesystem anyway? *

Re: 3.0.1 soon ?

1999-01-16 Thread Andreas Klemm
On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:45:02PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: Just wondering if there is an updated timeline for 3.0.1 release ? 15.01. + 'five' more days (Jordan said on -committers) -- Andreas Klemmhttp://www.FreeBSD.ORG/~andreas What gives you 90% more

Re: CTM CVSUP differences

1999-01-16 Thread Boris Staeblow
On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 08:46:23PM -0500, Chuck Robey wrote: Are you using any other tool besides ctm to touch your cvs archive? Are you doing commits locally? No. In terms of convenience, cvsup is supreme, but in terms of stability, Poul's baby here is the champ, so you have to really

Re: 3.0.1 soon ?

1999-01-16 Thread Luigi Rizzo
On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:45:02PM -0500, Mike Tancsa wrote: Just wondering if there is an updated timeline for 3.0.1 release ? 15.01. + 'five' more days (Jordan said on -committers) + 0.1.0 - 0.0.1 release numbers luigi To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with

Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks

1999-01-16 Thread Poul-Henning Kamp
In message 199901161046.caa47...@silvia.hip.berkeley.edu, Satoshi Asami write s: * However, if I try to mount it from B read-only while A is mounting it * read-write, it succeeds. This looks dangerous, as A writing data onto * the disk could cause B's cache to go stale without B knowing it.

Re: Can't compile new kernel after CVSup...

1999-01-16 Thread Eddie Irvine
A number of things seem to be changing rapidly. 1) cvsup and Do a make buildworld/installworld. worked for me yesterday. 2) See if you can build the GENERIC kernel. Worked for me. 3) check the stuff in your custom kernel vs. the GENERIC. There has been some sizable changes. You'l have to do

trouble to link new kernel

1999-01-16 Thread Andreas Klemm
Did a make world and then rm -rf ../../compile/TITAN config TITAN cd ../../compile/TITAN make depend all See errors below ... Am I missing something ? loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e):

SANE-1.0 Problems on CAM

1999-01-16 Thread Randall Hopper
I just pulled the latest SANE-1.0 package today for CAM/3.0-current (I'm on 3.0R). On my Microtek E6, it positions the head and gets ready to scan (sounding like normal) but as soon as it begins the movement to scan down the page, I get a dialog: Error during read: Error during

Re: SANE-1.0 Problems on CAM

1999-01-16 Thread Alfred Perlstein
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Randall Hopper wrote: I just pulled the latest SANE-1.0 package today for CAM/3.0-current (I'm on 3.0R). On my Microtek E6, it positions the head and gets ready to scan (sounding like normal) but as soon as it begins the movement to scan down the page, I get a

Re: trouble to link new kernel

1999-01-16 Thread Kazutaka YOKOTA
Did a make world and then rm -rf ../../compile/TITAN config TITAN cd ../../compile/TITAN make depend all See errors below ... Am I missing something ? See http://www.freebsd.org/~yokota/sc_update.txt and update your kernel config file. Kazu To Unsubscribe: send mail to

Re: CTM CVSUP differences

1999-01-16 Thread David Kelly
On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Boris Staeblow wrote: Hello, Is it possible that there are slight differences between the CTM's and the real world ? Yes, there are differences. You can't get the optional security stuff via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a

Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks?

1999-01-16 Thread Mike Smith
Jaye Mathisen writes: It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. Sort of a kernel-clean flag. Then 300 miles away, I can try stuff, and have at least

Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Edwin Culp
I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, ed P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25 CST. DynaLoader.c:282: `NULL' undeclared

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Carroll Kong
At 10:23 AM 1/16/99 -0600, Edwin Culp wrote: I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, ed P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25

Re: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE

1999-01-16 Thread Bruce Evans
Also, it might be nice if the disklabel(8) man pages explicitely say that the bootstrap code can be installed on each slice. (am I wrong ?) You're right, the bootblocks can be installed on each slice, and this also needs documenting. This doesn't need documenting. disklabel(8) knows nothing

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Edwin Culp
Carroll Kong wrote: I have been getting that error all day yesterday. Remade world 2-3 times... after cvsupping... none of the changes fixed it, and I still 'perished' at the same spot you did. I figured... I might as well wait a few more days before the next cvsup so they can fix whatever

Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks

1999-01-16 Thread Bruce Evans
I know that, but that's not the point here. If the filesystem is marked dirty, it could very well be corrupted. Why am I allowed to mount it (even read-only)? Because you are root, and root never makes mistakes :-). how else would you fsck / if it was dirty ? Boot from an alternative device

Suspend on Current

1999-01-16 Thread Daniel C. Sobral
Is it just me, or is there anyone else experiencing system freezes on current after a zzz? -- Daniel C. Sobral(8-DCS) d...@newsguy.com If you sell your soul to the Devil and all you get is an MCSE from it, you haven't gotten market rate. To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: /boot/loader problem with unusual setup.

1999-01-16 Thread Stefan `Sec` Zehl
On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:00:48PM +0100, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Where ${rootdev} points to? Shouldn't you set it accordingly to disk3s1a:? rootdev isn't set at all (as show says). I can't imagine that this will make a change, as I am booting from disk3, the problem stems from FreeBSD not

Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch

1999-01-16 Thread Nicolas Souchu
On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: Hi there, Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if no ZIP+ is connected. Here is a patch that corrects the problem for my printer, but I haven't any

Re: /boot/loader problem with unusual setup.

1999-01-16 Thread Andrzej Bialecki
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Stefan `Sec` Zehl wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 1999 at 10:00:48PM +0100, Andrzej Bialecki wrote: Where ${rootdev} points to? Shouldn't you set it accordingly to disk3s1a:? rootdev isn't set at all (as show says). I can't imagine that this will make a change, as I am

Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch

1999-01-16 Thread Doug Rabson
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: Hi there, Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the printer if no ZIP+ is connected. Here is a patch that

trivial rc/rc.local observation

1999-01-16 Thread Mike Zanker
Just noticed that both rc and rc.local print starting local daemons and the terminating .. Would it not be more aesthetically pleasing if only rc.local did so? Mike -- Mike Zanker, Academic Computing Service, The Open University, UK Tel: +44 1908 652726, Fax: +44 1908 652193 Views expressed are

Re: Can the bootloader create a file or set a flag in the bootblocks?

1999-01-16 Thread Bill Trost
Mike Smith writes: It would be kind of cool if when managing a remote system if /kernel failed to boot, then on the next boot, the loader will fire up /kernel.old, or a /kernel.somethingorother. We're trying to work out a clean way of managing that sort of persistent state

Re: SOFTUPDATES

1999-01-16 Thread Bruce Evans
Does softupdates give any gain over async? I have /usr/src and /usr/obj both mounted async, noatime, and it does seem to be rather nicely fast over default mountops. Async isn't fully async in FreeBSD (some directory operations are still sync), so softupdates is much faster in some cases. Fully

Re: Suspend on Current

1999-01-16 Thread Brian Feldman
On Sun, 17 Jan 1999, Daniel C. Sobral wrote: Is it just me, or is there anyone else experiencing system freezes on current after a zzz? I tried it on an Intel chipset a while back, and got the same result. Of course, I disabled APM from then on :) -- Daniel C. Sobral

Re: a few suggestions/comments on 3.0-RELEASE

1999-01-16 Thread Robert Nordier
Bruce Evans wrote: Also, it might be nice if the disklabel(8) man pages explicitely say that the bootstrap code can be installed on each slice. (am I wrong ?) You're right, the bootblocks can be installed on each slice, and this also needs documenting. This doesn't need documenting.

correction for find(1)'s man page

1999-01-16 Thread Thierry Herbelot
Hello I was reading the man page for find(1), looking for the precise option to follow symbolic links. This option is -follow, of course, but it is not described in the man page (I do not find in the cgi query :

Re: trivial rc/rc.local observation

1999-01-16 Thread jack
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Mike Zanker wrote: Just noticed that both rc and rc.local print starting local daemons and the terminating .. Would it not be more aesthetically pleasing if only rc.local did so? rc.local was removed from the tree on Dec. 12th. If you're still using it you're on your

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread David A. Gobeille
Edwin Culp wrote: I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't see anyone else on the list with problems. Did I miss another change? Am I doing something wrong? Thanks, ed P.S. This is where I stopped this time. cvsup finished about 9:25 CST.

'make buildworld' seems to create wrong symlinks for 'obj'

1999-01-16 Thread Timo Geusch
After recvsupping -current from the uk Mirror this morning, 'make buildworld' completed without any problem, but a subsequent 'make installworld' failed when trying to install shared libraries (in this case, libdescrypt.so.2). Further investigation showed that building the aout part of world

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Matthew Jacob
Huh? Isn't a 'make world' or 'make buildworld' supposed to just do the right thing? I mean, I *have* converted to elf... On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, David A. Gobeille wrote: Edwin Culp wrote: I haven't been able to make world since the texinfo problem. I don't see anyone else on the list

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the perl5 stuff. :-) - Jordan To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-current in the body of the message

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Andrew Gordon
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the perl5 stuff. :-) Backing out /usr/src/gnu/usr.bin/perl/libperl/config.SH* to 14jan allowed make world to complete

Re: ZIP+ detection, need testers for the patch

1999-01-16 Thread Nicolas Souchu
On Sat, Jan 16, 1999 at 06:49:25PM +, Doug Rabson wrote: On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: On Fri, Jan 15, 1999 at 11:13:09AM +, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 15 Jan 1999, Nicolas Souchu wrote: Hi there, Currently, the ZIP+ probe is intrusive and sends char to the

Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI

1999-01-16 Thread Gianmarco Giovannelli
Ok, first the conclusion... I am not able to boot anymore from a 3.0-current system while I can boot quite nicely from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. The system hangs on checking the scsi chain and remains stopped here. The last thing I can see on the screen is the : Waiting 3 seconds for

Re: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI

1999-01-16 Thread Christopher Knight
At 12:49 AM 1/17/99 +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: Ok, first the conclusion... I am not able to boot anymore from a 3.0-current system while I can boot quite nicely from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. The system hangs on checking the scsi chain and remains stopped here. The last thing I

kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup

1999-01-16 Thread Rajesh Vaidheeswarran
Hello folks, I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, but I keep getting an error during the kernel linking stage. loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to `vid_configure' syscons.o(.text+0x24e): undefined reference

Re: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI

1999-01-16 Thread Andrew Kenneth Milton
+[ Christopher Knight ]- | At 12:49 AM 1/17/99 +0100, Gianmarco Giovannelli wrote: | | Ok, first the conclusion... | | I am not able to boot anymore from a 3.0-current system while I can boot | quite nicely from the 3.0-RELEASE generic kernel. |

Re: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup

1999-01-16 Thread oZZ!!!
On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Rajesh Vaidheeswarran wrote: Hello folks, I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, but I keep getting an error during the kernel linking stage. loading kernel syscons.o: In function `scvidprobe': syscons.o(.text+0x231): undefined reference to

Re: CTM CVSUP differences

1999-01-16 Thread Ollivier Robert
According to David Kelly: via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a make release as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... -- Ollivier

Re: Problem booting from aic7890/91 Ultra2 SCSI

1999-01-16 Thread Christopher Knight
At 12:56 PM 1/17/99 +1000, you wrote: I recently (last night) added USB support to my kernel (just to see :-) and it hung at the same place. Removing the USB entries fixed it. This was also at the same time as the syscons/atkbd changeover for me as well so I wasn't expecting it really to be the

Re: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup

1999-01-16 Thread Chris Timmons
You probably need to add kbd0 and update sc0 in your kernel config file. Have a look in the GENERIC kernel config to see how it is done now... On Sat, 16 Jan 1999, Rajesh Vaidheeswarran wrote: Hello folks, I just did a cvsup and tried rebuilding world and the kernel, but I keep getting an

Re: kernel build breaks after the latest cvsup

1999-01-16 Thread Rajesh Vaidheeswarran
Thanks Chris, and thank you all who have replied to my message. I did as per your suggestions, and my kernel compiles now. (I haven't yet tried a reboot though). Thanks, once again. rv -- using MH template repl.format -- In a previous message, Chris Timmons writes: You probably need to

Re: CTM CVSUP differences

1999-01-16 Thread David Kelly
Ollivier Robert writes: According to David Kelly: via CTM while you can with CVSUP. Last time I tried it, this means you can't do a make release as Jordan's release Makefiles can't handle a total absense of that stuff (eBones? whatever its called). It is available on internat.freebsd.org

Re: cvs commit: src/sys/i386/isa wd.c wdreg.h src/sys/pci ide_pci.c

1999-01-16 Thread Bruce Evans
Watch out for bugs awoken by this. bde 1999/01/16 21:46:25 PST Modified files: sys/i386/isa wd.c wdreg.h sys/pci ide_pci.c Log: Pass the unit number to the DMA cookie lookup routine and use it to look up cookies properly, at least for standard

Re: mounting double-ended SCSI disks

1999-01-16 Thread Matthew Dillon
:Another problem is if A is mounting it read-only and then B tries to :mount it read-write. This succeeds and is dangerous for the same :reason as the last example. Since A can't write anything to the disk, :I guess there is no way we can avoid this situation. (The only way I :could think of

Annoying messages on startup..

1999-01-16 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
j...@zippy- dmesg|grep Freeing Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 11. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 10. Freeing (NOT implemented) redirected ISA irq 9. Freeing (NOT

Re: world compile break, -current (extremely recent), krbIV support

1999-01-16 Thread Mark Murray
Robert Watson wrote: This seems only to affect the krbIV stuff in -world. cd /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl;/usr/obj/elf/usr/src/tmp/usr/bin/make befor einstall make: don't know how to make /usr/src/kerberosIV/lib/libacl/../../../crypto/k erberosIV/lib/acl/acl.h. Stop *** Error code 2

Re: CTM CVSUP differences

1999-01-16 Thread Mark Murray
David Kelly wrote: It is available on internat.freebsd.org with CTM... And its legal for me to import it to the US? No problem. It is illegal to export _from_ the US. M -- Mark Murray Join the anti-SPAM movement: http://www.cauce.org To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with

Re: CTM CVSUP differences

1999-01-16 Thread Mark Murray
David Kelly wrote: While you can download the missing security stuff, make release wants to check it out of your local cvs archive. I haven't found a way to put it there but I'm a cvs novice. There is an international repository of crypto sources. Lemme know if you want it. M -- Mark Murray

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Mark Murray
Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the perl5 stuff. :-) ... and he is not getting the errors! I have done N make worlds in the last 48 hours; clean as a whistle. (I do blow

Re: Today's Make World

1999-01-16 Thread Jordan K. Hubbard
Every -current release I try and build falls over with this one. Tried making a release lately? :) - Jordan Jordan K. Hubbard wrote: We're all seeing this error, not to worry. Happily, it's clearly Mark's baby since he both imported the new texinfo *and* does the perl5 stuff. :-) ...

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