Re: ps_strings

2013-08-19 Thread Chris Torek
ht-up improvement, at least.) Not that big a deal either way, but it does seem as though there should be documentation for ps_strings. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: ps_strings

2013-08-18 Thread Chris Torek
trings in this memory-layout / emulation" etc. (Meanwhile libkvm still retrieves the arguments. It just does it now with sysctl().) Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

am I abusing the UMA allocator?

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Torek
them -- the one in uma_reclaim() is not going to help the OS much as the physical pages cannot be handed out to processes, and they "run out" against themselves, not the VM system). All in all, I'm now thinking that I'm abusing the slab allocator too much here. But I wo

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Torek
(Durn mailing list software, eating attachments... there are just the two so I will just send them one at a time here. I took the individual people off the to/cc since presumably you all got the attachments already.) Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2013 18:49:29 -0600 Subject: [PATCH 2/2] increase physical an

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-15 Thread Chris Torek
(Durn mailing list software, eating attachments... there are just the two so I will just send them one at a time here. I took the individual people off the to/cc since presumably you all got the attachments already.) Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 19:39:51 -0600 Subject: [PATCH 1/2] create_pagetables: co

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-14 Thread Chris Torek
Here's the split-up version with the additional comment corrections. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-14 Thread Chris Torek
VM_MAX_KERNEL_ADDRESS but then eventually allocating something between KERNBASE and VM_MAX_KERNEL_ADDRESS would cause that last page of "all-0s" to get filled in, etc. Of course KPML4I should be the very last (511'th) L4 table entry always, unless the kernel grows really huge :-)

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-07 Thread Chris Torek
c variable ndmpdpphys is 1 instead of 2). (I fixed the comment errors I spotted earlier, too.) Chris amd64/amd64/pmap.c | 100 +--- amd64/include/pmap.h| 36 + amd64/include/vmparam.h | 13 --- 3 files changed, 97 inserti

Re: hw.physmem/hw.realmem question

2013-07-02 Thread Chris Torek
es enough "vm_page" data structures to have one for all 8.5 GB, even though there's a .5 GB PCI hole with no RAM behind it. Those pages are marked "not here, never use these" -- but they still take sizeof(struct vm_page) bytes (120 bytes) to represent. 512 MB of hole = 512*1024*1024 / 4096 = 131072 pages, which means the kernel is using 15728640 bytes (15 MB) to track this empty area. So my remapping hardware gains me 512 MB and then the kernel loses 15, for a net of 497 MB recovered. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-07-01 Thread Chris Torek
27;s a glitch in the comment in the original patch, I'll fix that if/when there's any agreement on whether it gets applied in some form :-) ) Chris diff --git a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c index acf5af2..f1ed8b6 100644 --- a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c +++ b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-28 Thread Chris Torek
be bad anyway.) [I'm also not sure if we might be able to tweak the KPTphys usage slightly to eliminate whole pages full of L1 PTEs, e.g., if the GENERIC kernel occupies about 15 MB, we can map it with 7 2MB big page entries in KPDphys, then just one "regular" PTE

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Torek
the corresponding L4 direct-map entries. But that would require switching to the bcopy() method also mentioned below. Or indexing into vmspace0.vm_pmap.pm_pml4, which is basically the same thing.) Chris - There are six -- or sometimes five -- sets of pages allocated here at boot time to

Re: expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-27 Thread Chris Torek
>> .. (but I still needed the map I drew of the page tables...). >care to share? :-) It's on paper (I need to get a whiteboard...). If I can ASCIIfy it ... Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/ma

expanding amd64 past the 1TB limit

2013-06-26 Thread Chris Torek
can be achieved by adding and subtracting an offset, which would allow the base and limit to be arbitrary, rather than a power of two. (Still, it did not seem worth doing here.) Chris diff --git a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c b/amd64/amd64/pmap.c index 272158d..acf5af2 100644 --- a/amd64/amd64/pmap.c +++ b

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 June 2013 18:15, Florent Peterschmitt wrote: > Le 02/06/2013 14:16, Chris Rees a écrit : >> On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras wrote: >>> On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 >>> Chris Rees wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >

Re: sed query

2013-06-02 Thread Chris Rees
On 2 June 2013 11:41, Eduardo Morras wrote: > On Fri, 31 May 2013 15:01:59 +0100 > Chris Rees wrote: > >> Hi all, >> >> I think I've discovered a strange behaviour of sed perhaps triggered >> by the length of a regex passed to it. I noticed that a certain &

Re: /bin/sh => STDIN & functions, var scope messing

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Rees
ters at all, I would agree that for the sake of > > portability that behavior be consistent with the majority of sh > > implementations rather than "right" according to arbitrary ruling. > > On the other hand, zsh runs the last component of a pipeline in the pa

sed query

2013-05-31 Thread Chris Rees
at the code, and can't from a brief glance figure out why a slightly longer regex makes such a difference-- does it start to split it? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To uns

Re: Order of canonical upgrade sequence

2013-05-30 Thread Chris Rees
On 30 May 2013 14:42, Steve Wills wrote: > On 05/29/13 16:02, Chris Rees wrote: >> Hi all! >> >> Back in 2005, when Alexander Leidinger wrote the make delete-old >> target, he documented the order of upgrade such that it should be run >> before mergemaster [1]

Re: Order of canonical upgrade sequence

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
ding the order all places should be corrected > which tell to use the reverse order. > >> Warner >> >> On May 29, 2013, at 10:02 AM, Chris Rees wrote: >> >> > Hi all! >> > >> > Back in 2005, when Alexander Leidinger wrote the make delete-old

Order of canonical upgrade sequence

2013-05-29 Thread Chris Rees
t references an executable that has just been removed for example. I cannot think of an example where the system is left unbootable/damaged if make delete-old is run after mergemaster. What do people think of the patch at [2]? Chris [1] http://svnweb.freebsd.org/base/head/Makefile?r1=148329&r2

Re: FreeBSD installers and future direction

2013-05-27 Thread Chris Rees
7;s all down to familiarity. I suppose sh is more resistant to many stupid bugs and handles strings well But it has its own troubles too of course. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: stupid question about sendmail

2013-05-24 Thread Chris Rees
> > doesn't work. > http://www.sendmail.com/sm/open_source/support/public_forums/ There is also an IRC channel, #sendmail on Freenode. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: stupid question about sendmail

2013-05-24 Thread Chris Rees
ely outgoing mail to x...@y.pl should be rejected. > > > tried access.db - > > To:x...@y.pl REJECT > > doesn't work > > > any idea. thank you Try a sendmail list? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list htt

Re: ladmins that cannot type a command

2013-05-03 Thread Chris Rees
a race car, make sure the engine runs before > spending your time polishing the wheels. You need to spend more time writing patches rather than telling other people what not to do. We're (nearly) all volunteers. If you think something needs fixing, you can have a go yourself or pay

Re: How to sabotage 9.*-RELEASE worldbuilds?

2013-04-27 Thread Chris Rees
= > # For port textproc/docproj > WITH_JADETEX=YES > DOC_LANG="en_US.ISO8859-1" > FORMATS="html txt" And yet another example of misunderstanding how quotes in Makefiles breaks things :) If in doubt, leave quotes out! (This only applies to make) Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Chris Rees
On 24 April 2013 18:30, Justin Edward Muniz wrote: >> Our kernel is actually very easy to configure, so I'm not convinced that >> it's needed; you may be thinking of Linux's menuconfig, but I think that is >> because of the complexity. >> >> Chri

Re: Fwd: GSOC: Qt front-ends

2013-04-24 Thread Chris Rees
cus on one application. > Does anyone think that a custom kernel configuration and management GUI > utility would be desirable? > > I will shape my goals to meet the needs of the community. Our kernel is actually very easy to configure, so I'm not convinced that it's needed; you

Re: GSOC: Qt front-end for freebsd-update

2013-04-14 Thread Chris Rees
val (CCd) mentions he would be the technical contact for this project, though that was five years ago-- perhaps he'd like to comment. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubs

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Torek
network domains are initialized before invoking the device configuration code -- moving SI_SUB_PROTO* before SI_CONFIGURE -- but presumably this idea was tried and rejected earlier and hence the code in ether_ifattach to check the same global variable. Chris

Re: boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-02 Thread Chris Torek
>Can you provide a backtrace that leads to this? Sure. In case it's not obvious, the __rw_rlock at the top of the trace is working on a lock that has never been initialized (the first of the two ipv4 PCBs). Chris Booting... GDB: no debug ports present KDB: debugger backends: ddb KDB:

Re: considering i386 as a tier 1 architecture

2013-04-02 Thread Chris BeHanna
Goodness gracious, did no one see the date on the original post? What's the limit on this fishing hole? -- Chris BeHanna ch...@behanna.org ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/fr

Re: Ports: make fails, if DESTDIR path has spaces

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Rees
On 1 April 2013 17:13, wrote: >> Try "DESTDIR='/usr/TZ\ ONE'; export DESTDIR". >> >> You need to escape the space. > > This is '#!/bin/sh' scripting. > Doing so "fixes" *.mk, but breaks sh => dir simply doesn't exist

boot time crash in if_detach_internal()

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Torek
ignore, or modify the patch. :-) Chris diff --git a/sys/net/if.c b/sys/net/if.c --- a/sys/net/if.c +++ b/sys/net/if.c @@ -845,6 +845,15 @@ if_purgeaddrs(ifp); + /* +* torek: it's not entirely clear to me where and how this +* should go, but if domain_init_

Re: Ports: make fails, if DESTDIR path has spaces

2013-03-31 Thread Chris Rees
bably break somewhere else; spaces in Make variables have a special meaning. Use an underscore if you're desperate. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: snd_geode - where it is

2013-03-14 Thread Chris Rees
from ports, would be my first guess. Remember that if you install audio/oss, you will have to compile a kernel without sound drivers built in. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: blocking teamviewer trojan

2013-02-21 Thread Chris Rees
r any help. You would have better luck on a Windows security list. This list is for development of FreeBSD. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: building select ports for packaging on install media

2013-02-11 Thread Chris Rees
Tinderbox will also work fine. (Also, this belongs on ports@) Chris On 11 Feb 2013 19:31, "Alexander Yerenkow" wrote: > Best way is to have poudriere :) > > Regards, Alexander Yerenkow > 11.02.2013 21:24 пользователь "Kurt Lidl" написал: > > > Gr

Re: ZFS regimen: scrub, scrub, scrub and scrub again.

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 Jan 2013 21:45, "Michel Talon" wrote: > > On Wed, 23 Jan 2013 14:26:43 -0600, Chris Rees wrote: > > > > > So we have to take your word for it? > > Provide a link if you're going to make assertions, or they're no more > > than > >

Re: ZFS regimen: scrub, scrub, scrub and scrub again.

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Rees
On 23 January 2013 21:24, Wojciech Puchar wrote: >> >> I've heard this same thing -- every vdev == 1 drive in performance. I've >> never seen any proof/papers on it though. > > read original ZFS papers. No, you are making the

Re: ZFS regimen: scrub, scrub, scrub and scrub again.

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Rees
> it is clearly described even in ZFS papers. Both on reads and writes it gives single drive random I/O performance. So we have to take your word for it? Provide a link if you're going to make assertions, or they're no more than your own opinion. Chris _

Re: disadvantages of running 8.3 kernel on freebsd 8.2 system

2013-01-17 Thread Chris Rees
On 17 Jan 2013 17:13, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: >> >> >> Are you simply apprehensive over the time of buildworld? > > > no idea what you mean - my english isn't perfect. Sorry, was asking the OP. > I normally have latest binaries and generic kernel built for FreeBSD 8 which i use on servers (don'

Re: disadvantages of running 8.3 kernel on freebsd 8.2 system

2013-01-17 Thread Chris Rees
ewest and in sync. I agree; very weird problems sometimes happen with out of sync kernel/world; normally with new world old kernel, but the opposite is possible. Are you simply apprehensive over the time of buildworld? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.

Re: cvs deprecated

2012-12-30 Thread Chris Rees
On 30 Dec 2012 12:58, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: > > do ports have to be updated this way or i can use portsnap as today? will portsnap be continued or is too deprecated? Portsnap is staying. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org m

Re: cvs deprecated

2012-12-27 Thread Chris Rees
freebsd.org/base/head . # CURRENT I recall a cluster administrator advising use of svn protocol rather than http. Something to do with overheads. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: HEADS UP: FreeBSD git mirrors demoted to beta status, need your help

2012-12-15 Thread Chris Rees
cessary > steps to do this are documented on the Wiki under > >http://wiki.freebsd.org/GitWorkflow#History > > Please send me your output of git show-ref in a private mail, thanks. Hey, http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/scratch/git-show-ref.txt I

Re: old style kernel configuration

2012-11-22 Thread Chris Rees
On 22 Nov 2012 18:56, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: >> >> >> How is it simpler? >> >> Chris >> >> >> > strange question i thought it is obviously clear. > > $EDITOR config > config > cd ../compile/ > make depend > mak

Re: old style kernel configuration

2012-11-22 Thread Chris Rees
On 22 Nov 2012 16:26, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: >>> >>> >> >> Value: ability to embed entire config (comments and all) into the kernel > > > value 2: simplicity. > How is it simpler? Chris _

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-19 Thread Chris Rees
On 19 Nov 2012 13:05, "Andriy Gapon" wrote: > > on 18/11/2012 16:17 Chris Rees said the following: > > On 18 November 2012 14:04, Adrian Chadd wrote: > >> On 18 November 2012 02:48, Andriy Gapon wrote: > >> > >>> What you descr

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-18 Thread Chris Rees
semantics for hours on end, or we can > realise that git isn't a magic bullet for FreeBSD development. Also... did I mention git is GPL? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-ha

Re: FreeBSD needs Git to ensure repo integrity [was: 2012 incident]

2012-11-17 Thread Chris Rees
rg > > where the OPs view is susbstantiated. Yes, but git doesn't work with our workflow. It's been discussed several times, and changing to a tool that doesn't work for us (and is GPL btw) is no good at all. Chris ___ freebs

Re: Ports cross-compiling

2012-11-14 Thread Chris Rees
n be > cross-built). > > Is it possible to accept this? Seems to me non-destructive patch. Hi Alexander, Sorry for the late reply. You're definitely better off discussing this on ports@-- there has been some work done on cross-building ports, but it's fairly early days ye

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-28 Thread Chris Rees
On 28 October 2012 19:11, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > > On Sun, 28 Oct 2012 14:06:41 +, Chris Rees writes: >>Are we planning to replace /usr/bin/make with bmake in the near future? > > That was what I heard, but any such move is dependent on dealing with > ports. The ~sjg/

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-28 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 22:10, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 19:53:56 +0100, Chris Rees writes: >>I'm saying that it's unacceptable to expect people to change their >>systems just to make the ports tree work after we have broken it on a >>supposedly

Re: Porting patch(1) from NetBSD to FreeBSD (was Re: FreeBSD in Google Code-In 2012? You can help too!)

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
eeBSD head. I hope that is okay. > > Patching was trivial and It _seems_ to be working fine. > > I would appreciate any ideas around how to test the changes and how to > proceed further. Have you a patch :)? You're right, there shouldn't have been many changes needed. Ch

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 19:52, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > > On Sat, 27 Oct 2012 14:23:29 +0100, Chris Rees writes: >>We (ab)use the security update mechanism to merge the pmake changes >>(:tl and :tu) into releng/7.4 and releng/8.3 (possibly the earlier > > I originally provid

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
MS:U}; do \ 5032:${deptype:L}-depends: 5653:${i:S/-//:U}= ${WRKDIR}/${SUB_FILES:M${i}*} 5700:.if defined(PLIST_REINPLACE_${reinplace:U}) 5701: @${SED} -i "" -e '${PLIST_REINPLACE_${reinplace:U}}' ${TMPPLIST} 5854:.if defined(USE_RCORDER) || defined(USE_RC_SUBR) && ${USE_RC_SUB

Call for review -- rc needs some love!

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
orking out how to get any of my patches in! Please would someone with a src bit review some of my fixes [2]? I'm working on a few more, but I would need approval for anything committed. Thanks! Chris [1] http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/query-pr-summary.cgi?responsible=freebsd-rc [2] http://li

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 October 2012 15:32, Bryan Drewery wrote: > On 10/27/2012 8:23 AM, Chris Rees wrote: >> [trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] >> >> On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees wrote: >>> >>> On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Sim

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
[trim CC list a little to stop people regretting replying to this thread] On 27 October 2012 10:15, Chris Rees wrote: > > On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote: >> >> >> On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: >> >In that case

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-27 Thread Chris Rees
On 27 Oct 2012 00:35, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 22:02:00 +0100, Chris Rees writes: > >In that case we have a switch time on the order of years, not weeks; 8.3 is > >supported until May '14, and unless we get a :tl etc MFC into 8, even

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Oct 2012 21:51, "Simon J. Gerraty" wrote: > > > On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 21:00:26 +0100, Chris Rees writes: > >:L -- seems that bmake's use for this is kinda pointless; returning the > >name of the variable; we could swap that usage over directly. > > A

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Oct 2012 20:15, "Chris Rees" wrote: > > > On 26 Oct 2012 19:12, "David O'Brien" wrote: > > > > On Fri, Oct 26, 2012 at 12:12:44AM +0200, Baptiste Daroussin wrote: > > > Do be able to get the ports tree working with bmake asap, I also

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-26 Thread Chris Rees
from re@ > > about this, but was waiting for something I don't remember. > > :tu/:tl is in releng/9.1, so it will also be in 9.1-RELEASE. Then we only have two supported stable branches you propose to break... Chris ___ freebsd-hackers

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-25 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Oct 2012 06:01, "Konstantin Belousov" wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 25, 2012 at 03:53:53PM -0700, Simon J. Gerraty wrote: > > > > On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 23:01:27 +0100, Chris Rees writes: > > >Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bmake

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-25 Thread Chris Rees
/present], so maybe a fork in the road for bsd.port.mk should > be devised in order to make everything work. Now you've terrified me, and probably most other ports people too. Is there a Wiki page where the actual benefits of moving to bm

Re: [CFT/RFC]: refactor bsd.prog.mk to understand multiple programs instead of a singular program

2012-10-25 Thread Chris Rees
uplicate script for target "-depends" ignored bmake: "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" line 5124: warning: using previous script for "-depends" defined here bmake: "/usr/ports/Mk/bsd.port.mk" line 5124: warning: duplicate script for target "-depends" ignored

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

2012-09-18 Thread Chris Rees
hould offer as the default, we can talk >> about this. > > > so if 76% would decide that FreeBSD should have KDE included in system - it means that it should? No. Read the thread properly. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing lis

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

2012-09-18 Thread Chris Rees
Can you perhaps read the whole thread and organise your thoughts into just one email? Chris On 18 Sep 2012 09:09, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: > To be succinct: this is not OSX/Windows. True Unix and Unix clones can >> be decoupled from a desktop environment enough that forcing

Re: Providing a default graphical environment on FreeBSD

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Rees
re brought up on x11@ when > there are new upgrades of Xorg available. > > As well as this, Xorg versions would have to remain relatively stable > during minor releases, meaning if you DO want X11, then you are being > hamstrung by requiring it in base. > > Status quo for me pleas

Re: gpart is junk

2012-09-17 Thread Chris Rees
partitions are open. You may be more familiar with manually editing slice tables, but it is very easy to mess up. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send

Re: [RFC] Add *.orig/*.rej to svn:ignore in src?

2012-09-16 Thread Chris Rees
t as > well to avoid checking in patch `artifact` files? Do you have an example where this has happened? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Why fdisk can't open root disk with MBR for writing?

2012-09-16 Thread Chris Rees
ug. I think you have a point, but at the moment fdisk really doesn't work properly at all; I find so many people complaining on IRC about "Why doesn't fdisk work?" To be honest, I'd be happy with replacing fdisk with a huge warning "USE GPART!!"; fdisk isn't really standard anyway. The alternative of course is to fix fdisk... *properly*. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: FreeBSD Kernel Internals, lecture video

2012-08-26 Thread Chris Rees
On 26 Aug 2012 13:15, "Wojciech Puchar" wrote: > > very expensive.. Training and education generally are. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe,

Re: port devel/doxygen failing to test on -CURRENT and -STABLE

2012-08-11 Thread Chris Rees
On 12 July 2012 18:52, Chris Rees wrote: > On 9 July 2012 02:49, David Xu wrote: >> On 2012/07/08 18:21, Chris Rees wrote: >>> >>> Hi all / David, >>> >>> doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently >>> -STABLE too.

Re: Published paper

2012-08-07 Thread Chris Nehren
he DragonFlyBSD project may also find this interesting, because AFAIR one of the reasons Matt forked FreeBSD was due to disagreements in the SMP implementation. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgpf2mA8W83Os.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: FreeBSD ZFS source

2012-08-02 Thread Chris Nehren
on/fs/zfs /usr/src/sys/modules/zfs /usr/src/tools/regression/zfs Those are probably a good start. Some of them just contain a Makefile pointing you elsewhere in the tree, though. I might have missed something, and I'm sure someone will correct me if I have. -- Thanks and bes

Re: Resistance to documentation? (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-18 Thread Chris Rees
only when NONE of partitions are open/mounted, in spite that they are not modified. In FreeBSD 6 it allowed editing everytime and all worked. > > "Preventing people doing stupid things would prevent doing clever things". > > OK there is gpart now but still bsdlabel is far eas

Re: port devel/doxygen failing to test on -CURRENT and -STABLE

2012-07-12 Thread Chris Rees
On 9 July 2012 02:49, David Xu wrote: > On 2012/07/08 18:21, Chris Rees wrote: >> >> Hi all / David, >> >> doxygen has been failing for a while now on -CURRENT and apparently >> -STABLE too. The current fix is disabling one of the tests in the >> build, bu

Better ldns docs? (Was: bikeshedding about BIND)

2012-07-09 Thread Chris Nehren
or how things fit together. I suppose you could say "well volunteered" to that, too, but I'm not sure if the docs will get finished in time for a good CLI client for 10-RELEASE. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgpjqnyBdJSbw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Better error messages for command not found (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-08 Thread Chris Rees
d program whenever a "command not found" >error occurs. > > As a first prototype, the database could just be a text file > and the look up program could be a shell script that uses > grep and sed. Anyone looking to implement something like this could also talk to Sulev-Madis

port devel/doxygen failing to test on -CURRENT and -STABLE

2012-07-08 Thread Chris Rees
;s hanging on a _umtx call. I'm gratuitously ignorant of what goes on there... but the timings of recent commits to umtx.h [3] could indicate a link (hope it's not bogus...). Any pointers on what I should do next? Chris [1] http://www.bayofrum.net/~crees/scratch/doxygen-truss [2] htt

Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Chris Rees
uot;, "desktop environments" and so on. > > this only generate herds of morons that "know FreeBSD" and dissolve real user base. What is the 'real user base?' People who insult newcomers and call them morons? People who consider it cool to use a OS that is unneces

Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-07 Thread Chris Rees
ers? > > Please answer it is important for me, and many other people for a future. This is not 'going down'. This is adding features to help newcomers. You are free to disable them. It will not remove anything from FreeBSD. I point to Doug's statement on elitism. Chris ___

Re: Better error messages for command not found (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Rees
isable that feature' then. Since that is the case, you should stop commenting, now, and simply disable it if/when it comes out. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Gentoo Solution to Nanny Terminal Problem

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Rees
gt; > > > > 0:55 Fri 06-Jul sean@queen [~] pkg_info -W bash > /usr/local/bin/bash was installed by package bash-4.2.28 > > 0:57 Fri 06-Jul sean@queen [~] pkg_info -W /usr/local/sbin/sendmail > /usr/local/sbin/sendmail was installed by

Re: Training wheels for commandline (was Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?)

2012-07-05 Thread Chris Rees
; switched on where I spend ages switching it all off/deinstalling it all, I > know which I prefer - and others have made similar comments. That's crazy- this is the logic that led to our sh having tab completion and history disabled by default for years. How many people honestly knew

Re: Pull in upstream before 9.1 code freeze?

2012-07-04 Thread Chris Nehren
oking at ldns to create such a tool. It shouldn't be difficult for anyone familiar with C and DNS who has the tuits to spare. -- Thanks and best regards, Chris Nehren pgpR1jUEqDRxU.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: sysctl filesystem ?

2012-06-25 Thread Chris Rees
e useful. Just because Linux uses it doesn't make it a bad idea. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: MAGIC with HP KVM - someone will help?

2012-06-23 Thread Chris Rees
s get 'stuck' but it's so obvious when it happens it's no big hardship. I have a Belkin adaptor one by the way, and it works very well with FreeBSD apart from that issue, if that's any help. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@free

Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Rees
k I understand >> "i have no idea why this fscadm enable/disable. editing config is enough." >> and would ask you elaborate for me. Thanks, > > > why adding solaris style command to add a line in text file. just edit a text file. > Scripting? Chris _

Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Rees
foolevel". > > > > still single rc.conf, not much bigger in practice. > > > > 2) no change in rc.d/* scripts and rc.conf, but change in scripts. > > > > > > If everyone agree i think i may write this new scripts. > > Sorry but I completely disagree here. Why ? > > Because do one thing and do one thing well. What do you mean ? He means the UNIX philosophy. http://www.faqs.org/docs/artu/ch01s06.html Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: Replacing rc(8) (Was: FreeBSD Boot Times)

2012-06-21 Thread Chris Rees
ged as root and tried to understand the /etc tree, boot process and gave up really quickly. > just seeing a files and directories (both numerous) of just a kernel binaries was truly enough. > > Now... lets go back to FreeBSD which is controllable and understandable by a human. Yo

Re: proper newfs options for SSD disk

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
about this? > ;) I say we have GPT this decade :) Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

Re: BIO_DELETE equivalent for file on FFS filesystem

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 16, 2012 8:37 PM, "Xin LI" wrote: > > On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:01 PM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2012 5:49 AM, "Wojciech Puchar" < woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > > wrote: > >>>> > >>>> file t

Re: BIO_DELETE equivalent for file on FFS filesystem

2012-06-16 Thread Chris Rees
brk() works for memory. > > > > BAD. suppose i keep windoze VM image on filesystem which takes 10GB but uses 5GB. > > i could write simple program to find out what blocks are unused and then...do nothing. > What if you cp it? Chris __

Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?

2012-06-15 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 15, 2012 9:39 AM, "Peter Jeremy" wrote: > > On 2012-Jun-14 08:09:30 +0100, Chris Rees wrote: > >Except STABLE is no good for production, and the problem is EoL- updates > >and support stop. > > There's nothing stopping you from from running -stab

Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?

2012-06-14 Thread Chris Rees
On Jun 14, 2012 9:30 AM, "Damien Fleuriot" wrote: > > On 6/14/12 9:09 AM, Chris Rees wrote: > > On Jun 14, 2012 5:52 AM, "Wojciech Puchar" < woj...@wojtek.tensor.gdynia.pl> > > wrote: > >>> > >>> Friends, > >>>

Re: Upcoming release schedule - 8.4 ?

2012-06-14 Thread Chris Rees
stantly. > just sometime somebody decide to change number :) Except STABLE is no good for production, and the problem is EoL- updates and support stop. Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hac

Re: CD bootcode

2012-06-07 Thread Chris Rees
, so in '/usr/src/sys/boot/i386/cdboot/cdboot.s': > -- > loader_paths: .asciz "/BOOT/LOADER" >.asciz "/boot/loader" >.byte 0 > -- > > I injected third '.asciz' line with full path to 'loader' and recompiled it. > And what is first line "/BOOT/LOADER" doing in there ?!? > Because strict ISO9660 8.3 is case insensitive and uses caps? Chris ___ freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org mailing list http://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-hackers To unsubscribe, send any mail to "freebsd-hackers-unsubscr...@freebsd.org"

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