Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-08 Thread Doug
urces available and how to use them? Then the actual rtfm command could be a short program that just calls up the man page. It's not as glamorous, but IMO it will be more useful. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to kee

more amd hangs

1999-07-09 Thread Doug
libc.so.3 #10 0x804a189 in xdr_u_short () #11 0x8049aba in xdr_u_short () #12 0x8049209 in xdr_u_short () I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I still have the core file so if anyone wants to look into this I'll be glad to do what I can. The amd conf files are below, any in

FreeBSD for mips

1999-07-09 Thread Doug
i-ho for a MIPS version of freebsd. I'd love to be able to put some of these !...@$* Cobalt Raqs we have round here to a wholesome purpose. :) Of course doing the install would be a lot of fun with no floppy disk Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only

Re: FreeBSD for mips

1999-07-09 Thread Doug
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: > On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > > I'd just like to offer a hearty hi-ho for a MIPS version of > > freebsd. I'd love to be able to put some of these !...@$* Cobalt Raqs we > > have round here to a wholesome purpose.

Re: a BSD identd

1999-07-11 Thread Doug
ve been quite a few identd related discussions, and it would be points in our favor if we didn't come out with anything that had known exploits. HTH, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: a BSD identd

1999-07-11 Thread Doug
;real" responses by default would be > > a bad thing. The current ability to send fake responses is a good thing, > > but having the option to do real ident would also be good. > > As long as the documentation is _clear_ that this is not a front-line > security tool, but rat

Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > In my continuing efforts to get this freebsd box into shape for > web hosting at my company (where it relies exclusively on NFS for > retrieving customer data) I've been making progress thanks to some recent > commits by Peter. Now I can r

Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
, so I just rebooted. HTH, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
rtain that _start() is the culprit. (Please everyone, stop laughing, thanks. :) Comments or suggestions welcome. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

RE: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: > I don't know if your diagnosis was in jest, Yes it was, but thank you for asking. :) I should have known better than to attempt subtle humor at the end of a long, tiring day. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and ru

Re: bin/12578: `` subshell taints PWD

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
he correct way to fix the problem is to bring our sh in line with posix in this respect. Someone more familiar with the spec than I could tell you for sure, however I can say with relative security that subshell processes should not taint parent shell variables. Exercising my firm grasp of the obviou

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to the MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like this: On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > Ok, got another hang in "siobi" state (this time after it > successfully completed

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
it worked with no logging, I tried enabling > :logging to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After > :turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very > :similar traceback. > : > : If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. > : &g

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote: > > After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to > > the MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like > > this: > > > > On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > > > >

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
in the siobi state. No way to clear it without rebooting the box. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
at none of them *should* have been involved. Thanks for all the great suggestions, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe

Re: a BSD identd

1999-07-14 Thread Doug
l it if they want to." Frankly I don't see why we're still discussing this, but then again, I do. Hope this helps, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-15 Thread Doug
s up) so A) I'm making progress in the office, and B) I should have a chance to pound on the syslog stuff tomorrow. Happy, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-18 Thread Doug
airs create. Soaking it in, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Devloper

1999-07-18 Thread Doug
person it's assigned to and ask them about it. Looking forward to your first patch, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: What good PII/PIII Motherboards for FreeBSD and Celeron CPU's

1999-07-22 Thread Doug
o has the ability to redirect all console output (like boot/bios messages, etc.) to a serial console. It comes with a built in Etherexpress Pro 100+ as well. I have an Asus P2B at home that I've run my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 since the first of the year with no problems (and BI

Re: mbuf leakage in NFSv3 writes, possbile?

1999-07-22 Thread Doug
able mbufs and see if you reach a point of stability? Assuming you have enough physical ram you could do 15k mbufs on -Stable without a problem. Check LINT for the nmbclusters option if you need help with it. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscrib

[Fwd: wd0 DMA errors]

1999-07-25 Thread Doug
No answer on -current, any help appreciated. Doug Original Message My boxes at work are -current from 7/16. They both use IDE disks since other than system stuff the disk I/O for the real work is all NFS. In the daily logs this morning I see this: >

Re: [Fwd: wd0 DMA errors]

1999-07-25 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:59:26 MST, Doug wrote: > > > No answer on -current, any help appreciated. > > We're probably all sitting here thinking "I'm sure this was asked and > answered recently. He can read his CURRENT mai

Re: What good PII/PIII Motherboards for FreeBSD and Celeron CPU's

1999-07-25 Thread Doug
Vincent Poy wrote: > > On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > > > On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: > > > > > Greetings everyone, > > > > > > What are the current good motherboards for FreeBSD for the pentium > > > II and III?

Re: [Fwd: wd0 DMA errors]

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
e machines and see if the error resurfaces. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.

XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
it is on wcarchive, so I just pulled down all the bits and installed it the "hard" way, however I know I'm going to run into trouble down the road when ports start looking for the X stuff in /var/db/pkg. Any comments or suggestions welcome, Doug -- On account of being a demo

Re: XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
pkg dependencies because sysinstall wasn't properly registering the X install. If the port depending on the existence of /var/db/pkg/X* is actually an error I'll report what I find to the -ports list. Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:41:24 MST, Doug wrote: > > > However right after 3.2-R came out there was a flurry of -questions > > mail about broken pkg dependencies because sysinstall wasn't properly > > registering the X install. > >

Re: XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
the > > Just to clear up a misconception; this isn't actually a sysinstall > problem. Okey dokey. As long as y'all are aware of it I'm happy, I just hadn't seen it mentioned. Thanks for clarifying, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the peo

Re: VMWare plug/quickie tests.

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
"Hmmm.. I wasn't aware of that, I'll have to pass that on." So perhaps there is hope, but I'm still not holding my breath. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter

Re: replacing grep(1)

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
k forward to giving this a try. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsu

Re: replacing grep(1)

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
hould permit multiple patterns and it never > occured to me that anyone would want to do this. Ah, well, if the world were limited to just what I could imagine, how boring would that be? The more complete the feature set, the better off we are for my money. Doug -- On account of being

Re: replacing grep(1)

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, James Howard wrote: > On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: > > > Ah, well, if the world were limited to just what I could imagine, > > how boring would that be? The more complete the feature set, the better > > off we are for my money. > > You

Re: securelevel and ipfw zero

1999-07-28 Thread Doug
Coolio. And inre the request to hear from the users of the code, I am one, have been for years, and deploy it in many different environments (including natd, basic security, etc.). These would be very welcome additions assuming that the performance hit is negligible. Thanks, Doug -- On

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-28 Thread Doug
lly nutso at one point because I had some comments in /etc/services in the wrong format back when I was playing around with it. This is not something to be tampered with lightly. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has t

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-29 Thread Doug
one or the other. Does anyone know? > > Probably because the IANA specifies them that way. I think that they > try to keep both UDP and TCP ports the same, "just in case". There > might be a better explanation in rfc1700 (assigned numbers) Nope, that is the official reaso

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-29 Thread Doug
ht lead someone to believe that they could use that UDP port for their own little project. I suggested that we add the link to the IANA page way back when, but there are still some people that believe that our services list contains all the information they need. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: So, back on the topic of enabling bpf in GENERIC...

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
ave the details archived from the dhcp mailing list, but IIRC it boils down to dealing properly with an address of 255.255.255.255. Whoever it was that mentioned it recently on this list clearly had the right idea. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nati

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
ure what this gets us. Wouldn't it be better to > :place this kind of information in the man page that you suggest below? As > :often as /etc/services gets read, do we really want to bloat it with > :non-functional information? > :... > :Doug > > I kinda like the idea of p

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
ts, although that might be more than what is wanted. I do know what you mean though. On some of the machines I administer I have some custom entries for /etc/services that make more sense than the defaults, especially for the ports > 1023. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by

readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
ed together from advice on the lists, my reading of the man pages and other documentation, and a lot of experimentation. Any comments or suggestions for improvements would be welcome. Thanks, Doug amd.conf: [ global ] map_type = file search_path =/etc auto

Re: readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
of date, but I'll try it if folks say it's good. Basically my problem is that there are so MANY options, and my knowledged about potential side effects is very limited. Thanks for your response, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the o

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-31 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:05:14 MST, Doug wrote: > > > I still haven't heard anyone answer the two key (IMO) questions. > > Your questions are easier answered in reverse order: > > > and how do you justify the additional cost to

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-31 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: > > On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:10:18 MST, Doug wrote: > > > On some of the machines I administer I have some custom entries for > > /etc/services that make more sense than the defaults, especially for > > the ports > 1023. > > Would you

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-31 Thread Doug
ther benefits to having it in a man page too. The primary one being that changes/updates to the comments don't require a change to the file, and would be picked up automatically during a make world. Now you'll have to excuse me while I go sharpen my lance... Doug To Un

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Doug
shorter turnover time between major branches. We've already got a pretty considerable amount of stuff that can't be ported back to -Stable without major headaches. It's not always easy to know exactly where to draw the line, but I think that the move from 3->4 should probably take less tim

Re: readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-08-02 Thread Doug
s to test NFS make worlds a while ago Hrrmmm... I'm not sure where the concern about loopback stuff comes from. Does amd use the loopback interface to communicate with anything? Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world th

ignoretime in login.conf??

1999-08-04 Thread Doug
ple of how it works or the fact that the @ sign is the symbol for it. The info is in login_cap(3), but it's hard to decipher for a non-programmer. I'll put this on my list if no one else wants to take it, and submit a PR. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the pe

login.conf restrictions for suid processes possible? (fwd)

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
No answer on -questions, and this is pretty urgent for me atm. Any help appreciated. Doug Greetings, :) I am working on some resource limit stuff and would like to be able to use login.conf to restrict the number of cgi processes that certain users can run. Unfortunately, the

Re: login.conf restrictions for suid processes possible? (fwd)

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
application is dynamically > linked, you could produce a library containing patched set*id functions > and force it into the app using LD_PRELOAD. Grrrfl. Ok, that's what I thought, but I do appreciate the confirmation. We have a pretty good relationship with the vendor so I&#

Re: login.conf restrictions for suid processes possible? (fwd)

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
r-t and suid's to the user who owns the script it's called to run. I'm aware that the sticky bit is ignored on BSD for executables, but that's how it comes from the vendor so my boss doesn't want to mess with it. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by th

Re: TCP stack hackers take a bow

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
shooting themselves in their collective feet at every opportunity.) But seriously folks, this kind of thing happens all the time in the computer business. The best way to handle it is to keep smiling and talk to the ones who will listen, and report accurately. The word is getting out slowly

Re: [Fwd: Please support FreeBSD 3.x as host OS]

1999-08-06 Thread Doug
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 john_wilson...@excite.com wrote: > This is kinda different from what the original poster received. > Keep badgering! But ONLY if you ARE willing to pay for it if they make one. We don't need a repeat of the CDE debacle. Doug > > Hi John, > >

Re: [Fwd: Please support FreeBSD 3.x as host OS]

1999-08-06 Thread Doug
e valuable to me than the price of vmware, and it'd be great to get them into our market since they're developing a pretty good profile for themselves. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

perl can't manify during make upgrade

1999-08-08 Thread Doug
interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Abort trap Manifying Data::Dumper.3 ELF interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found I suspect that this is due to the fact that the elf libraries have been built but not installed at this point in the program, but I thought y'all might like to know.

Please review: New 'make upgrade' web page

1999-08-08 Thread Doug
upgrade's following these instructions and both have been successful. I cobbled together the information from various posts to the lists over the last year and my experience doing the two upgrades. Some of the recommendations may seem overly paranoid, but please keep the target audience in mind. TIA,

Fix/tuning to improve slow NFS writes?

1999-08-08 Thread Doug
freebsd machines are NFS clients to the sun servers doing most of the web processing. Overall performance on the reads seems to be best with nfs v3 over udp, which is what I'm using now. All of the web server directories are soft mounted directly, with no amd currently in use. thanks, Doug

Re: Fix/tuning to improve slow NFS writes?

1999-08-09 Thread Doug
th nfs v3 over udp, which is what I'm using now. All of the web > :server directories are soft mounted directly, with no amd currently in use. > : > :thanks, > : > :Doug > > Well, NFS buffers are usually sent over the network the moment they > are full. If you are

Re: Fix/tuning to improve slow NFS writes?

1999-08-09 Thread Doug
Alfred Perlstein wrote: > > On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Doug wrote: > > > Matthew Dillon wrote: > > > > > > : So, the big question is whether there is anything we can tune to > > > speed up > > > :the writes. The freebsd machines are NFS clie

Re: ignoretime in login.conf??

1999-08-11 Thread Doug
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: > > Doug writes: > > Also, the 'boolean' option is essentially undocumented in the > > login.conf man page. It's mentioned once, but there is no example of how > > it works or the fact that the @ sign is the symbol for i

Re:(2) hey

1999-08-12 Thread Doug
used on the global internet are letters, numbers and the dash character, "-". Underscores are not valid, at all, period. I realize that the RFC's don't seem to be clear on this point, however you can rest assured that such is the case. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: se

Re: (2) hey

1999-08-12 Thread Doug
records are not valid for hosts in in-addr.arpa. > What do I know; I was just the first chair of the domain name working group > in the IETF so many years ago before it got fashionable. Well, things change. :) Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are t

Re: (2) hey

1999-08-12 Thread Doug
don't try and drum up sympathy for that "DNS should be all things to all people" line, it didn't work well back then and doesn't work at all now. It's all we can do nowadays to get people to configure "normal" things properly. AFAIC, the software could st

Re: (2) hey

1999-08-13 Thread Doug
Tony Finch wrote: > > Doug wrote: > >Louis A. Mamakos wrote: > >>[lost attribution] > >>> > >>> That IS a violation of the standard, since A records are not valid > >>> for hosts in in-addr.arpa. > >> > >> And next I s

Re: BSD XFS Port & BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Doug
the IP > > stack. > > Most likely. s/steal/use/. We can't champion the BSD (read, "Use this code for whatever you want") license then cast aspersions at people who use it for things we don't like. Let's at least be logically consistent. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: gethostbyaddr() and threads.

1999-08-15 Thread Doug
including the ports) to know about > libresolver explicitly, but that's unlikely to come to pass. Here here. Think of this as a "me too," or a vote in favor of each of the points above. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Doug
enforced. Also, the flags should be settable on the file, directory and disk levels. Finally in an ultra-paranoid environment you could set an option that requires that the uid matchup is for the actual person, similar to the way an ssh public key/private key pair works. Hope this is useful, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Interesting ssh + X + tcp_wrappers problem

1999-08-22 Thread Doug
;d prefer to avoid. Thoughts, comments, suggestions welcome, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-23 Thread Doug
enforced. Also, the flags should be settable on the file, directory and disk levels. Finally in an ultra-paranoid environment you could set an option that requires that the uid matchup is for the actual person, similar to the way an ssh public key/private key pair works. Hope this is useful, D

Re: (forw) Re: ndc(8)

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
ly /etc/ is always part of the plan, and /var is the proper place for this kind of info to be dumped. Also, before we invest a lot of time in this, people should be aware that ndc is fundamentally different in BIND 8.2.x. This is not to say that fixing this now is not a good thing, just t

Re: How bullet-proof should the /etc/rc* scripts be?

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
ere are still plenty of "We've always done it that way" items in the various rc files, that may be one of them. In answer to the question in your subject line, I would say "More so than they are now." Comments and suggestions are welcome, preferably accompanied by unified diffs. :) Good luck with your project, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
owever the last time it came up I seem to remember it being one of those "religious" issues... 3. Anything else I should be looking at in this phase of the game? Thanks, Doug--- /etc/rc Thu Aug 26 21:02:19 1999 +++ rc Thu Aug 26 22:57:06 1999 @@ -8,24 +8,25 @@ # and the console

Splash screen problem after being interrupted

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
different value, and I couldn't even C-A-D to reboot clean, I had to do a soft reset. Obviously this is a "... well don't do that" case, but I'm not sure it should be fatal. Hopefully this is of use to someone. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@free

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
Chris Costello wrote: > > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999, Doug wrote: > > Greetings, > > > > As previously discussed, here is a first draft of the rc* script > > mods. I > > consider the first step in this process to be Jordan's cleanup of the > > vari

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Chris Costello wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 1999, Doug wrote: > > > > 2. value ) instead of value) for case statements > > > > > >Why? What's wrong with `value)'? > > > > Nothing functionally, but I find case state

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
Oliver Fromme wrote: > > Doug wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: > > [...] > > 2. value ) instead of value) for case statements > > [...] > > case $? in > > -0) > > +0 ) > > ;; > >

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
Doug wrote: > > Greetings, > > As previously discussed, here is a first draft of the rc* script > mods. I > consider the first step in this process to be Jordan's cleanup of the > variable syntax. This is step 2, which most notably converts test's d

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
'm not overly concerned about getting _my_ way on a lot of these things, so long as we get a style that is consistent and that everyone can live with. > > Doug--- /usr/src/etc/rc Thu Aug 26 20:56:36 1999 > > +++ rc Fri Aug 27 09:52:39 1999 > > @@ -8,24 +8,25 @@ >

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
Nik Clayton wrote: > > On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Doug wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Nate Williams wrote: > > > Sentences are supposed to have two spaces before you start the next > > > sentence. > > > > Well, that was definitel

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
Matthew Dillon wrote: > I guess they don't teach manual typewriting classes any more :-) Actually I took that class in Jr. High School, way back in '77. It was the only good advice my Jr. High guidance counselor gave me. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord..

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
of those "religious" issues... I see this as step 3. of the project, and will go ahead with it after step 2. is done if there is no objection. 3. Anything else I should be looking at in this phase of the game? Doug--- /usr/src/etc/rc Sat Aug 28 13:51:10 1999 +++ rc Sat Aug 28 14:

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
Ben Smithurst wrote: > > Doug wrote: > > > Okey dokey, I can take a hint. :) > > Can you take another one, regarding the unnecessary spaces after the > values in your "case"s? i.e., that they should be taken out and shot? > :-) *sigh* I am co

/usr/src/etc files without $FreeBSD tags

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
infree /usr/src/etc/motd /usr/src/etc/namedb/named.root /usr/src/etc/rc.diskless1 /usr/src/etc/rc.diskless2 /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc /usr/src/etc/termcap.small Having the tags in the files helps mergemaster, if nothing else. :) Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@f

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-30 Thread Doug
I've seen quite a few reports of this lately, and while this fixes it, it shouldn't be necessary, should it? Has something changed in the 'make upgrade' target recently? Doug "Andy V. Oleynik" wrote: > > Crist, I had latly same sort of things. >

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-30 Thread Doug
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, John Birrell wrote: > On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:13:58AM -0700, Doug wrote: > > I've seen quite a few reports of this lately, and while this fixes it, > > it > > shouldn't be necessary, should it? Has something changed in the &#x

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-30 Thread Doug
ople writing extremely non-portable scripts with them. Maybe I'm missing something though... Also, keep in mind that it's not just case sensitivity that we're working with here. It's also the fact that case is a sh builtin, as opposed to test which is not. If you want

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-31 Thread Doug
John Birrell wrote: > > On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:55:42PM -0700, Doug wrote: > > > `make' has changed. > > > > Ok, that's the cause then, so what's the solution? :) And > > meanwhile is it going to hurt anything if I put a suggestion on my

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-31 Thread Doug
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, John Birrell wrote: > On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 08:27:00AM -0700, Doug wrote: > > John Birrell wrote: > > > The solution is to fix `make'. I could commit the fix, but I'm not > > > in a position to build -stable just now. I'm not suppose

Re: Minor patches to pwd_mkdb

1999-09-01 Thread Doug
also like to add a vote for this since we have multiple machines with 16k user password files. I had intended to start looking at the code and offer a solution instead of a me too, but it sounds like others are already on the right track, so I'll be glad to test something if someone comes up w

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-01 Thread Doug
ports. Why not do this as part of the port itself, ala majordomo? That works just fine and is completely non-controversial because you don't get it unless you ask for it. Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-01 Thread Doug
, so this proposed change won't help it at all. My point is simply that fixing this problem is the responsibility of the port maintainers. There is no point in adding something to the base system that will only benefit a few people when a mechanism to solve the problem which does not a

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Doug
priate and painless solution. And ultimately -Stable will become -Release, so your argument here is absurd on its face. Please understand, this is not a personal attack. I'm sure that your proposal was motivated by good intentions, but those of us who see the harm in it and understand the issues involved are trying to explain why it's a bad idea. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

sysinstall nit

1999-09-05 Thread Doug
Present in -Stable and -Current. If you go to Configure | Distributions | src and attempt to choose All, the src distribution never gets selected and nothing gets installed. I can send a PR if needed, but it's such a small thing I didn't think it would be worth it. Doug To U

/etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-05 Thread Doug
pose of asking for review ahead of time. I'll have some freebsd-hacking time tomorrow if there are any more nits to be picked. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: 2.2.8 - can't mount root

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
o stop and ask rather than just panic(). Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: /etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
Michael Reifenberger wrote: > > Hi, > On Sun, 5 Sep 1999, Doug wrote: > ... > > can find the files at http://gorean.org/rcfiles/ > looks good so far. > I'm missing rc.serial in rcfiles. Thanks for the reminder. I didn't make any changes to that file beca

Re: How to prevent motd including os info

1999-09-12 Thread Doug
ut="$(/sbin/fsck -p | /bin/tee /dev/console)" > > /sbin/mount -at nonfs > > echo "${fsck_output}" >/var/run/fsck.boot > > > > but I don't expect people to be happy about moving tee(1) from > > /usr/bin to /bin. Another possible solu

Re: How to prevent motd including os info

1999-09-12 Thread Doug
and it's a lot cleaner than mine for a number of reasons. Completely beyond me to code, but very nice from the design standpoint. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message

Re: panic() the system from the console (was: Re: kern/13721: There is no way to force system panic from console)

1999-09-16 Thread Doug
o adding a panic() key combo, just wondering if it's duplicating existing technology. Doug -- "My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack a

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