Re: Serial Console Wierdness

1999-06-25 Thread Doug
making my own cable another try, just in case. Any help on either of these cases would be appreciated. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does

Thank you Peter!! (Was: Heavily loaded amd/nfs... )

1999-07-01 Thread Doug
that even though the box performed well under real world load it was falling down on this step (building configuration files). Chalk one up for the good guys. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years

Re: bpfilter - bpf patches [LONG]

1999-07-03 Thread Doug
naming the kernel include file bpf.h would conflict with /usr/include/net/bpf.h? In any case, this is a long overdue, and welcome change. Thank you. :) Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: login problem:

1999-07-04 Thread Doug
wanna. I have a user that belong to shell shell login classes, but he is not disconnected after 1 minute of idle time? Not all of the login class items work the way they are supposed to. You should probably look at 'idled' in the ports collection. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-06 Thread Doug
I'm confused about this script. How does it differ from 'apropos'? Feeling a little dense, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-06 Thread Doug
not looked at the motd, because if they had they wouldn't need the script. Honestly, while this is one of those things that sounds good when you first start talking about it, in practice I don't see what we gain from it. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we

Re: 'rtfm' script

1999-07-08 Thread Doug
that just calls up the man page. It's not as glamorous, but IMO it will be more useful. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe

more amd hangs

1999-07-09 Thread Doug
0x8049aba in xdr_u_short () #12 0x8049209 in xdr_u_short () I'm not sure exactly what that means, but I still have the core file so if anyone wants to look into this I'll be glad to do what I can. The amd conf files are below, any insights or suggestions welcome. Doug -- On account

FreeBSD for mips

1999-07-09 Thread Doug
for a MIPS version of freebsd. I'd love to be able to put some of these !...@$* Cobalt Raqs we have round here to a wholesome purpose. :) Of course doing the install would be a lot of fun with no floppy disk Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation

Re: FreeBSD for mips

1999-07-09 Thread Doug
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug Rabson wrote: On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: I'd just like to offer a hearty hi-ho for a MIPS version of freebsd. I'd love to be able to put some of these !...@$* Cobalt Raqs we have round here to a wholesome purpose. :) Of course doing the install would

Re: a BSD identd

1999-07-11 Thread Doug
with anything that had known exploits. HTH, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: a BSD identd

1999-07-11 Thread Doug
that this is not a front-line security tool, but rather a thing to marginally augment logs with user-supplied info, then I'll buy it. Yes, I agree wholeheartedly with this point. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
On Fri, 9 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: In my continuing efforts to get this freebsd box into shape for web hosting at my company (where it relies exclusively on NFS for retrieving customer data) I've been making progress thanks to some recent commits by Peter. Now I can run the heavy duty NFS

Re: more amd hangs

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
. HTH, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-12 Thread Doug
or suggestions welcome. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

RE: more amd hangs: in _start()

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Ladavac Marino wrote: I don't know if your diagnosis was in jest, Yes it was, but thank you for asking. :) I should have known better than to attempt subtle humor at the end of a long, tiring day. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people

Re: bin/12578: `` subshell taints PWD

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
. Someone more familiar with the spec than I could tell you for sure, however I can say with relative security that subshell processes should not taint parent shell variables. Exercising my firm grasp of the obvious, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to the MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like this: On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after it successfully completed the script). Here

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
to a regular file, and that also worked like a charm. After :turning syslog style logging back on, it locked up cold, with a very :similar traceback. : : If anyone wants to work on this, let me know. : :Doug Are you syslogging to the console by any chance? Here is syslog.conf

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
On Tue, 13 Jul 1999, Mike Smith wrote: After pounding on this some more with today's -current (prior to the MNT_ASYNC flag change) I got a lot more lockups that looked like this: On Mon, 12 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: Ok, got another hang in siobi state (this time after

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
it without rebooting the box. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-13 Thread Doug
track in suspecting that the serial console is involved (due to the siobi state that amd was hanging in). However, which line of the syslog.conf that was causing that is a darn good question, given that none of them *should* have been involved. Thanks for all the great suggestions, Doug

Re: a BSD identd

1999-07-14 Thread Doug
options all suck, so it would be nice to have a freebsd version that we know will work, and once we have that then people won't need the port, but they can install it if they want to. Frankly I don't see why we're still discussing this, but then again, I do. Hope this helps, Doug

Re: more amd hangs: problem really in syslog?

1999-07-15 Thread Doug
it, the linux box had no free cpu and a load average of 8. :) I also (finally) got the approval to install freebsd on the fourth box (there are already two linux machines up) so A) I'm making progress in the office, and B) I should have a chance to pound on the syslog stuff tomorrow. Happy, Doug

Re: poor ethernet performance?

1999-07-18 Thread Doug
of you, but may benefit someone else. What I was told is that the reason Cat 5 cable is so much more efficient is that each of the 4 pairs of wire is twisted at a different rate. This helps reduce the possibility of frequency synchronization for the EM fields the pairs create. Soaking it in, Doug

Re: Devloper

1999-07-18 Thread Doug
it. Looking forward to your first patch, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: What good PII/PIII Motherboards for FreeBSD and Celeron CPU's

1999-07-22 Thread Doug
(like boot/bios messages, etc.) to a serial console. It comes with a built in Etherexpress Pro 100+ as well. I have an Asus P2B at home that I've run my Celeron 300A overclocked to 450 since the first of the year with no problems (and BIG fans). HTH, Doug -- On account of being

Re: mbuf leakage in NFSv3 writes, possbile?

1999-07-23 Thread Doug
a point of stability? Assuming you have enough physical ram you could do 15k mbufs on -Stable without a problem. Check LINT for the nmbclusters option if you need help with it. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body

[Fwd: wd0 DMA errors]

1999-07-25 Thread Doug
No answer on -current, any help appreciated. Doug Original Message My boxes at work are -current from 7/16. They both use IDE disks since other than system stuff the disk I/O for the real work is all NFS. In the daily logs this morning I see this: wd0

Re: [Fwd: wd0 DMA errors]

1999-07-25 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Sun, 25 Jul 1999 10:59:26 MST, Doug wrote: No answer on -current, any help appreciated. We're probably all sitting here thinking I'm sure this was asked and answered recently. He can read his CURRENT mail like the rest of us. I have indeed read my

Re: What good PII/PIII Motherboards for FreeBSD and Celeron CPU's

1999-07-25 Thread Doug
Vincent Poy wrote: On Thu, 22 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 1999, Vincent Poy wrote: Greetings everyone, What are the current good motherboards for FreeBSD for the pentium II and III? I know on the Pentium, it was the ASUS board but for the PII/PIII, is the Abit

Re: [Fwd: wd0 DMA errors]

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
if the error resurfaces. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe

XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
it is on wcarchive, so I just pulled down all the bits and installed it the hard way, however I know I'm going to run into trouble down the road when ports start looking for the X stuff in /var/db/pkg. Any comments or suggestions welcome, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people

Re: XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
registering the X install. If the port depending on the existence of /var/db/pkg/X* is actually an error I'll report what I find to the -ports list. Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-26 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Mon, 26 Jul 1999 22:41:24 MST, Doug wrote: However right after 3.2-R came out there was a flurry of -questions mail about broken pkg dependencies because sysinstall wasn't properly registering the X install. Is this a different problem from the broken compat22

Re: XFree 3.3.4 not on ftp.freebsd.org?

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
a misconception; this isn't actually a sysinstall problem. Okey dokey. As long as y'all are aware of it I'm happy, I just hadn't seen it mentioned. Thanks for clarifying, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep

Re: replacing grep(1)

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body

Re: replacing grep(1)

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
multiple patterns and it never occured to me that anyone would want to do this. Ah, well, if the world were limited to just what I could imagine, how boring would that be? The more complete the feature set, the better off we are for my money. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run

Re: replacing grep(1)

1999-07-27 Thread Doug
On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, James Howard wrote: On Tue, 27 Jul 1999, Doug wrote: Ah, well, if the world were limited to just what I could imagine, how boring would that be? The more complete the feature set, the better off we are for my money. You misinterpretted, I didn't know you could

Re: securelevel and ipfw zero

1999-07-28 Thread Doug
of the code, I am one, have been for years, and deploy it in many different environments (including natd, basic security, etc.). These would be very welcome additions assuming that the performance hit is negligible. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-28 Thread Doug
format back when I was playing around with it. This is not something to be tampered with lightly. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-29 Thread Doug
because the IANA specifies them that way. I think that they try to keep both UDP and TCP ports the same, just in case. There might be a better explanation in rfc1700 (assigned numbers) Nope, that is the official reason. Cheesy-poofs for you. :) Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-29 Thread Doug
suggested that we add the link to the IANA page way back when, but there are still some people that believe that our services list contains all the information they need. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: So, back on the topic of enabling bpf in GENERIC...

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
down to dealing properly with an address of 255.255.255.255. Whoever it was that mentioned it recently on this list clearly had the right idea. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
to :place this kind of information in the man page that you suggest below? As :often as /etc/services gets read, do we really want to bloat it with :non-functional information? :... :Doug I kinda like the idea of putting the RFC numbers in comments in /etc/services. It makes

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
entries for /etc/services that make more sense than the defaults, especially for the ports 1023. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers

readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
reading of the man pages and other documentation, and a lot of experimentation. Any comments or suggestions for improvements would be welcome. Thanks, Doug amd.conf: [ global ] map_type = file search_path =/etc auto_dir = /usr/amd/realmounts

Re: readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-07-30 Thread Doug
is that there are so MANY options, and my knowledged about potential side effects is very limited. Thanks for your response, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-07-31 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:05:14 MST, Doug wrote: I still haven't heard anyone answer the two key (IMO) questions. Your questions are easier answered in reverse order: and how do you justify the additional cost to parse the file for every single system call

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-08-01 Thread Doug
Sheldon Hearn wrote: On Fri, 30 Jul 1999 15:10:18 MST, Doug wrote: On some of the machines I administer I have some custom entries for /etc/services that make more sense than the defaults, especially for the ports 1023. Would you need these entries if inetd let you specify port

Re: Mentioning RFC numbers in /etc/services

1999-08-01 Thread Doug
. The primary one being that changes/updates to the comments don't require a change to the file, and would be picked up automatically during a make world. Now you'll have to excuse me while I go sharpen my lance... Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe

Re: Hey kernel hackers, this is worth a read.

1999-08-01 Thread Doug
considerable amount of stuff that can't be ported back to -Stable without major headaches. It's not always easy to know exactly where to draw the line, but I think that the move from 3-4 should probably take less time than the move from 2-3 did. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: readdirplus is very cool, any other nfs client suggestions?

1999-08-02 Thread Doug
Hrrmmm... I'm not sure where the concern about loopback stuff comes from. Does amd use the loopback interface to communicate with anything? Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years

ignoretime in login.conf??

1999-08-04 Thread Doug
is the symbol for it. The info is in login_cap(3), but it's hard to decipher for a non-programmer. I'll put this on my list if no one else wants to take it, and submit a PR. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep

login.conf restrictions for suid processes possible? (fwd)

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
No answer on -questions, and this is pretty urgent for me atm. Any help appreciated. Doug Greetings, :) I am working on some resource limit stuff and would like to be able to use login.conf to restrict the number of cgi processes that certain users can run. Unfortunately

Re: login.conf restrictions for suid processes possible? (fwd)

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
the confirmation. We have a pretty good relationship with the vendor so I'll take that route first. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does

Re: login.conf restrictions for suid processes possible? (fwd)

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
boss doesn't want to mess with it. Thanks, Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what it does. -- Will Rogers To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: TCP stack hackers take a bow

1999-08-05 Thread Doug
.) But seriously folks, this kind of thing happens all the time in the computer business. The best way to handle it is to keep smiling and talk to the ones who will listen, and report accurately. The word is getting out slowly. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we

Re: [Fwd: Please support FreeBSD 3.x as host OS]

1999-08-06 Thread Doug
On Fri, 6 Aug 1999 john_wilson...@excite.com wrote: This is kinda different from what the original poster received. Keep badgering! But ONLY if you ARE willing to pay for it if they make one. We don't need a repeat of the CDE debacle. Doug Hi John, Thank you for the interest

Re: [Fwd: Please support FreeBSD 3.x as host OS]

1999-08-06 Thread Doug
, and it'd be great to get them into our market since they're developing a pretty good profile for themselves. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

perl can't manify during make upgrade

1999-08-08 Thread Doug
interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found Abort trap Manifying Data::Dumper.3 ELF interpreter /usr/libexec/ld-elf.so.1 not found I suspect that this is due to the fact that the elf libraries have been built but not installed at this point in the program, but I thought y'all might like to know. Doug

Please review: New 'make upgrade' web page

1999-08-08 Thread Doug
these instructions and both have been successful. I cobbled together the information from various posts to the lists over the last year and my experience doing the two upgrades. Some of the recommendations may seem overly paranoid, but please keep the target audience in mind. TIA, Doug http://home.san.rr.com

Fix/tuning to improve slow NFS writes?

1999-08-08 Thread Doug
. The freebsd machines are NFS clients to the sun servers doing most of the web processing. Overall performance on the reads seems to be best with nfs v3 over udp, which is what I'm using now. All of the web server directories are soft mounted directly, with no amd currently in use. thanks, Doug

Re: Fix/tuning to improve slow NFS writes?

1999-08-09 Thread Doug
is what I'm using now. All of the web :server directories are soft mounted directly, with no amd currently in use. : :thanks, : :Doug Well, NFS buffers are usually sent over the network the moment they are full. If you are not running any nfsiod's I should have mentioned, I

Re: Fix/tuning to improve slow NFS writes?

1999-08-09 Thread Doug
Alfred Perlstein wrote: On Mon, 9 Aug 1999, Doug wrote: Matthew Dillon wrote: : So, the big question is whether there is anything we can tune to speed up :the writes. The freebsd machines are NFS clients to the sun servers doing :most of the web processing. Overall

Re: ignoretime in login.conf??

1999-08-11 Thread Doug
Dag-Erling Smorgrav wrote: Doug d...@gorean.org writes: Also, the 'boolean' option is essentially undocumented in the login.conf man page. It's mentioned once, but there is no example of how it works or the fact that the @ sign is the symbol for it. The info is in login_cap(3

Re:(2) hey

1999-08-12 Thread Doug
on the global internet are letters, numbers and the dash character, -. Underscores are not valid, at all, period. I realize that the RFC's don't seem to be clear on this point, however you can rest assured that such is the case. Good luck, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: (2) hey

1999-08-12 Thread Doug
the first chair of the domain name working group in the IETF so many years ago before it got fashionable. Well, things change. :) Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run by the people, we are the only nation in the world that has to keep a government four years, no matter what

Re: (2) hey

1999-08-12 Thread Doug
, it didn't work well back then and doesn't work at all now. It's all we can do nowadays to get people to configure normal things properly. AFAIC, the software could stand to be smarter than it is already because they keep making better idiots. Doug -- On account of being a democracy and run

Re: (2) hey

1999-08-13 Thread Doug
Tony Finch wrote: Doug d...@gorean.org wrote: Louis A. Mamakos wrote: [lost attribution] That IS a violation of the standard, since A records are not valid for hosts in in-addr.arpa. And next I suppose you'll tell me that PTR records are not valid outsize of the IN-ADDR.ARPA

Re: BSD XFS Port BSD VFS Rewrite

1999-08-14 Thread Doug
want) license then cast aspersions at people who use it for things we don't like. Let's at least be logically consistent. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: gethostbyaddr() and threads.

1999-08-15 Thread Doug
to pass. Here here. Think of this as a me too, or a vote in favor of each of the points above. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-18 Thread Doug
that the uid matchup is for the actual person, similar to the way an ssh public key/private key pair works. Hope this is useful, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Interesting ssh + X + tcp_wrappers problem

1999-08-22 Thread Doug
, suggestions welcome, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Re: Need some advice regarding portable user IDs

1999-08-24 Thread Doug
that the uid matchup is for the actual person, similar to the way an ssh public key/private key pair works. Hope this is useful, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: (forw) Re: ndc(8)

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
should be aware that ndc is fundamentally different in BIND 8.2.x. This is not to say that fixing this now is not a good thing, just that it's not worth a whole LOT of time since things will be changing whenever the new BIND is imported. HTH, Doug -- My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry

Re: How bullet-proof should the /etc/rc* scripts be?

1999-08-26 Thread Doug
they are now. Comments and suggestions are welcome, preferably accompanied by unified diffs. :) Good luck with your project, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
seem to remember it being one of those religious issues... 3. Anything else I should be looking at in this phase of the game? Thanks, Doug--- /etc/rc Thu Aug 26 21:02:19 1999 +++ rc Thu Aug 26 22:57:06 1999 @@ -8,24 +8,25 @@ # and the console is the controlling terminal. # Note

Splash screen problem after being interrupted

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
to a different value, and I couldn't even C-A-D to reboot clean, I had to do a soft reset. Obviously this is a ... well don't do that case, but I'm not sure it should be fatal. Hopefully this is of use to someone. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
Chris Costello wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 1999, Doug wrote: Greetings, As previously discussed, here is a first draft of the rc* script mods. I consider the first step in this process to be Jordan's cleanup of the variable syntax. This is step 2, which most notably converts

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Chris Costello wrote: On Thu, Aug 26, 1999, Doug wrote: 2. value ) instead of value) for case statements Why? What's wrong with `value)'? Nothing functionally, but I find case statements much easier to read with the extra whitespace. Would

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
Oliver Fromme wrote: Doug wrote in list.freebsd-hackers: [...] 2. value ) instead of value) for case statements [...] case $? in -0) +0 ) ;; -2) +2 ) exit 1 ;; -4

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
Doug wrote: Greetings, As previously discussed, here is a first draft of the rc* script mods. I consider the first step in this process to be Jordan's cleanup of the variable syntax. This is step 2, which most notably converts test's dealing with variables to case wherever

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-27 Thread Doug
about getting _my_ way on a lot of these things, so long as we get a style that is consistent and that everyone can live with. Doug--- /usr/src/etc/rc Thu Aug 26 20:56:36 1999 +++ rc Fri Aug 27 09:52:39 1999 @@ -8,24 +8,25 @@ # and the console is the controlling terminal

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
Nik Clayton wrote: On Fri, Aug 27, 1999 at 11:23:06AM -0700, Doug wrote: On Fri, 27 Aug 1999, Nate Williams wrote: Sentences are supposed to have two spaces before you start the next sentence. Well, that was definitely the old typographical convention, but in the digital age

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
Matthew Dillon wrote: I guess they don't teach manual typewriting classes any more :-) Actually I took that class in Jr. High School, way back in '77. It was the only good advice my Jr. High guidance counselor gave me. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
. of the project, and will go ahead with it after step 2. is done if there is no objection. 3. Anything else I should be looking at in this phase of the game? Doug--- /usr/src/etc/rc Sat Aug 28 13:51:10 1999 +++ rc Sat Aug 28 14:08:25 1999 @@ -8,24 +8,25 @@ # and the console is the controlling

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
Ben Smithurst wrote: Doug wrote: Okey dokey, I can take a hint. :) Can you take another one, regarding the unnecessary spaces after the values in your cases? i.e., that they should be taken out and shot? :-) *sigh* I am constantly flabbergasted by what people think

/usr/src/etc files without $FreeBSD tags

1999-08-28 Thread Doug
/etc/motd /usr/src/etc/namedb/named.root /usr/src/etc/rc.diskless1 /usr/src/etc/rc.diskless2 /usr/src/etc/sendmail/freebsd.mc /usr/src/etc/termcap.small Having the tags in the files helps mergemaster, if nothing else. :) Thanks, Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-30 Thread Doug
I've seen quite a few reports of this lately, and while this fixes it, it shouldn't be necessary, should it? Has something changed in the 'make upgrade' target recently? Doug Andy V. Oleynik wrote: Crist, I had latly same sort of things. Fix is to define in ur /etc/make.conf

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-30 Thread Doug
On Tue, 31 Aug 1999, John Birrell wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 09:13:58AM -0700, Doug wrote: I've seen quite a few reports of this lately, and while this fixes it, it shouldn't be necessary, should it? Has something changed in the 'make upgrade' target recently? `make' has

Re: Please review: rc file changes

1999-08-30 Thread Doug
though... Also, keep in mind that it's not just case sensitivity that we're working with here. It's also the fact that case is a sh builtin, as opposed to test which is not. If you want to see what I've got so far check out http://gorean.org/rcfiles/ Doug -- My mama told me, my mama said

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-31 Thread Doug
John Birrell wrote: On Mon, Aug 30, 1999 at 03:55:42PM -0700, Doug wrote: `make' has changed. Ok, that's the cause then, so what's the solution? :) And meanwhile is it going to hurt anything if I put a suggestion on my 'make upgrade' web page that users do 'make -DMACHINE_ARCH

Re: make aout-to-elf-build Failing

1999-08-31 Thread Doug
On Wed, 1 Sep 1999, John Birrell wrote: On Tue, Aug 31, 1999 at 08:27:00AM -0700, Doug wrote: John Birrell wrote: The solution is to fix `make'. I could commit the fix, but I'm not in a position to build -stable just now. I'm not supposed to commit without testing. The fix looks

Re: Minor patches to pwd_mkdb

1999-09-01 Thread Doug
for this since we have multiple machines with 16k user password files. I had intended to start looking at the code and offer a solution instead of a me too, but it sounds like others are already on the right track, so I'll be glad to test something if someone comes up with patches. Doug -- My mama told me

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-01 Thread Doug
of the port itself, ala majordomo? That works just fine and is completely non-controversial because you don't get it unless you ask for it. Doug -- My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry.' She said, 'you're too young a man to have as many women you got.' I looked at my mother dear and didn't even crack

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-01 Thread Doug
is the responsibility of the port maintainers. There is no point in adding something to the base system that will only benefit a few people when a mechanism to solve the problem which does not affect people who don't want the port(s) is already available. Doug -- My mama told me, my mama said, 'don't cry

Re: Proposal: Add generic username for 3rd-party MTA's

1999-09-02 Thread Doug
why it's a bad idea. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

sysinstall nit

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
Present in -Stable and -Current. If you go to Configure | Distributions | src and attempt to choose All, the src distribution never gets selected and nothing gets installed. I can send a PR if needed, but it's such a small thing I didn't think it would be worth it. Doug To Unsubscribe

/etc sh script cleanup ready for testing

1999-09-06 Thread Doug
freebsd-hacking time tomorrow if there are any more nits to be picked. Doug To Unsubscribe: send mail to majord...@freebsd.org with unsubscribe freebsd-hackers in the body of the message

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